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WeAreChange founder Luke Rudkowski makes SPLC’s Patriot most wanted list!

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posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 08:48 PM

WeAreChange founder Luke Rudkowski makes SPLC’s Patriot most wanted list!

Who doesn’t love the Southern Poverty Law Center and their reports? Well the SPLC seems to love WeAreChange, considering almost every US chapter made their militia and patriot group report a few weeks ago.

Today, they released their “Patriot” report, listing 36 individuals whom they describe as “enablers” of the anti-government movement. On this list, founding member of WeAreChange, Luke Rudkowski was listed. The report refers to Rudkowski as the “Patriot Journalist”.
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posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 08:48 PM
We are Change is NOT a violent origination. I mean their offical Code of Conduct are as fallows

1 No provocation of violence will be tolerated under any circumstances
2 Racial, sexual, religious, age or discrimination of any kind will not be tolerated
3 No group member shall use language in public that will inflame others to violent action
4 No group member shall destroy the property, tangible or intangible, of others, public or private.
5 All members will treat each other with respect at all times

and the list goes on. what is rule number one again? oh ya thats right do not get violent. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has thoroughly discredited its self
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posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 08:59 PM
Congratulations to Luke on receiving this high honor, I'm sure he will be celebrating with friends, cracking open a few beers!

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 09:07 PM
What the hell is this SPLC and what is it doing to fight poverty? Help draft up lists of people who are sick of our governments loyalty to big corp?

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 09:38 PM
reply to post by harpsounds

guess who else I saw on this list:

Glen Beck
and Ron Paul

they think Ron Paul is an threat

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 09:54 PM
At this point in time, nearly any American, regardless of color, religion or political affiliation, who supports the U.S. Constitution and opposes the planned Socialization of this Republic of The United States of America is a target for money whoring organizations like the SPLC.

Star & Flagged

[edit on 19-4-2010 by burntheships]

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 10:04 PM
Thanks for posting this info. While I am not familiar with We Are Change or Rudkowski, this is just another testament of the left's continued tactic of ignoring the message and attacking the messenger.

I, briefly, read over a few of those being targeted by the SPLC (spit). I haven't found one, in which they actually give a reason for including someone on their cute little list.

Quite obviously, the SPLC is just a hate group, which deserves to be placed near the top of a list, somewhere.

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 10:12 PM
the southern poverty full list,2

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 10:24 PM
reply to post by Vinveezy

A little more insight into SPLC's more recently recognized reputation
This from the Washington Times editor in Chief no less;

the Southern Poverty Law Center – the Southern Poverty Law Center, for the viewers who may not know it, is an organization that specializes in finding offenses that they can raise money around. They have been the subject of exposés and publications as ranging from their own “Montgomery Advertiser,” which did a five-part series on the Southern Poverty Law Center. “Harper’s” Magazine, which is hardly a redoubt of conservatism, has done a very scathing exposé of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

[edit on 19-4-2010 by burntheships]

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 10:32 PM
Heh, this is their write-up:

The 'Patriot Journalist'
Luke Rudkowski, 23

Luke Rudkowski dislikes the phrase "conspiracy theory." He prefers to think of his organization as a movement of truth-seeking activists who are simply asking the hard questions that aren't being posed by mainstream journalists.

Nevertheless, the founder of We Are Change has tapped into a deep vein of suspicion among Americans who see dark conspiracies being hatched inside the federal government. He has harnessed the energy of 9/11 "truthers" to form an army of activists seeking to expose "the lies of the government and corporate elite who remain suspect in this crime."

Since he formed We Are Change as a group of "patriot journalists" in 2006, the loose-knit group has grown into a network of more than 200 independent chapters, mostly in the United States. Finding the "truth" behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks is a driving force — as are concerns about a looming "one world order," according to the group's website. It also seeks "to uncover the truth behind the private banking cartel of the military industrial complex" that wants to "eliminate national sovereignty."

Rudkowski said the group doesn't engage in broad New World Order conspiracies but focuses on the alleged role of groups such as the Bilderberg Group or the Trilateral Commission. These groups have been common targets for Patriot and other conspiracy theorists for decades.

We Are Change videographers have confronted political figures such as Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski. When video surfaced of U.S. Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah telling a We Are Change interviewer there's "a lot we still need to learn" about the 2001 terrorist attacks, the congressman felt constrained to issue a statement disavowing any belief in a government conspiracy.

Rudkowski, whose group explicitly condemns violence and racism, said he was arrested last year for trespassing during an attempt to question New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg about the health care of 9/11 first responders. He said he is fighting the charge, saying he was targeted and never told to leave.

"I see a huge uprising right now of people waking up every single day," Rudkowski said in an interview posted on YouTube last year. splc

I'm a little confused ... which part of that description is objectionable to the splc?

Luke sounds like a pretty righteous dude.

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 10:36 PM
reply to post by schrodingers dog

Exactly, just what has that man done to deserve being a target?
There are some others on the list as well that I am familiar with, and there is no way they are potential domestic terrorists!

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 10:42 PM
reply to post by schrodingers dog

Their problem with Rudkowski, in my opinion, lies within that last quote.

"I see a huge uprising right now of people waking up every single day,"

Just roll over and go back to sleep, people, and there will be no problems.

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 10:52 PM
This is truly disgusting!

How about defamation of character?!!

Just like Savage, which is still banned in Brittan, putting these people on Their Southern Poverty Hate list is targeting these people and could, or is putting them in danger!

Nice Job Hitler!

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 11:09 PM

Originally posted by burntheships

Exactly, just what has that man done to deserve being a target?
There are some others on the list as well that I am familiar with, and there is no way they are potential domestic terrorists!

To be fair the SLPC didn't call them "domestic terrorists" ... but what they've actually done is rather worse in my opinion. Mostly because the list is a mix of all types of groups, it lacks focus, definition, and clear intent. This is obviously on purpose to infer and allude suspicion as opposed to being clear about what it is that they are accusing these people with.

Fact is that "patriot" is just a word. There are folks that hate under its pretext and others that don't. Heck even the KKK thinks of themselves as "patriots" and as do other groups like the Redemption Movement as anyone familiar with one of its founders Minister William P. Gale would attest to.

But what seems to be happening here is a concerted effort to link the word "patriot" with "subversive" ... and this is rather dangerous and something every ATS member should take note of.

If there's a group out there clearly pimping hate then address it individually and clearly, use examples of their conduct and make a case. But to simply throw a half assed list out there letting the uninformed draw their own conclusions is highly objectionable and reeks of the very hate they declare to be fighting against.

How they can capriciously cast suspicion on a man and a group which preaches peaceful protest and rejects all forms of prejudice simply because he dares ask questions is beyond me, and points to an ulterior motive on their part.

Guilt by approximation nonsense!

[edit on 19 Apr 2010 by schrodingers dog]

posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 11:36 PM
reply to post by schrodingers dog

To be fair they did not exaclty use the label "terrorist", and yes what they have done is worse than simply a label.

Within the small confines of this list, and its summation at the end, one is left reeling from the lack of logical connection between Ron Paul, and the "terrorist" incidents on the last page summary of this mad magazine report!

Lets have a look see here at thier end wrap...

The 'Patriot' Movement Timeline
Sept. 11, 1990: President Bush, describing the post-Cold War world, outlines his vision of a "New World Order." Conspiracy-minded "Patriots" take this as a slip of the tongue revealing secret plans to create a one-world government.

February 1992: White supremacist theorist Louis Beam calls for "leaderless resistance," or cells of fighters who report to no one. In coming years, many in the Patriot movement will pick up the concept.

April 2, 1992: Terry Nichols, who will one day be convicted of conspiracy in the Oklahoma City bombing, renounces his U.S. citizenship, saying he "follow[s] the common law," indicating his early participation in the Patriot movement.

August 1992: James "Bo" Gritz, a Vietnam war hero admired by many Americans, calls for civilian militias during his "populist" campaign for the presidency.

Aug. 31, 1992: White supremacist Randy Weaver surrenders after an 11-day standoff at his cabin on Ruby Ridge, Idaho, that left his wife, son and a U.S. marshal dead. The incident galvanizes many on the radical right.

Oct. 23, 1992: Anti-Semitic Christian Identity pastor Pete Peters hosts the "Rocky Mountain Rendezvous" in Estes Park, Colo., where 160 extremists, reacting to Ruby Ridge, lay out strategies that will help shape the militia movement.

Feb. 28, 1993: Four federal agents and several cultists are killed in a gunfight when the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms raids the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas. The 51-day standoff that follows rivets the nation.

April 19, 1993: The FBI tries to end the Waco standoff by injecting tear gas into a building that subsequently bursts into flames, leaving almost 80 Davidians dead. More than any other event, the debacle ignites the militia movement.

July 8, 1993: In a stinging rebuke to federal law enforcement, a jury acquits Randy Weaver and another man of murdering a U.S. marshal during the Ruby Ridge standoff. Evidence emerges that the FBI loosened its normal rules of engagement and covered up that fact later.

November 1993: The Brady Bill, imposing a waiting period for handgun purchasers, is signed into law, infuriating many gun enthusiasts. Anger at the bill, along with a 1994 ban on some assault weapons, helps fuel the militia movement.

Jan. 1, 1994: The first major modern militia, the Militia of Montana, is officially inaugurated. John Trochmann, a white supremacist supporter of Randy Weaver, heads it.

Jan. 30, 1994: A California official who angered Patriot "common-law" adherents by refusing to vacate an IRS lien is beaten, stabbed and sodomized with a gun. The attack reveals the growing violence of common-law adherents.

March 1994: More than 800 people gather in Kalispell, Mont., to hear Militia of Montana leader John Trochmann, reflecting the growing strength of the militia movement.

April 1994: The Michigan Militia, soon to grow into the nation's largest militia group with up to 6,000 members, is formed by gun shop owner Norm Olson and Ray Southwell.

May 1994: In a speech to the antigovernment U.S. Taxpayers Party, a militant abortion opponent calls on churches to form their own militias, reflecting the increasing convergence of Patriot and anti-abortion activists.

Aug. 4, 1994: Two members of the Minnesota Patriots Council are arrested for making the deadly toxin ricin and later are convicted of plotting to poison federal agents.

Sept. 19, 1994: Self-appointed militia "general" Linda Thompson calls for an armed march on Washington, D.C., prompting other Patriots to renounce her as foolhardy and suicidal. She ultimately rescinds her call.

Sept. 28, 1994: In one of the first acts of the Oklahoma conspiracy, Terry Nichols helps steal explosives from a Kansas quarry. He will help acquire many other materials before leaving co-conspirator Timothy McVeigh a letter urging him to "go for it."

October 1994: More than 1,500 people attend "Operation Freedom" in Lakeland, Fla., listening to speeches and collecting information about starting militias.

October 1994: Six months before the Oklahoma City bombing, Southern Poverty Law Center co-founder Morris Dees writes Attorney General Janet Reno to warn that the "mixture of armed groups and those who hate is a recipe for disaster."

Nov. 14, 1994: A militiaman threatens an Audubon Society official with a noose after the official testifies for an environmental measure. The incident is one of hundreds reflecting Patriot hatred of government regulation of the environment.

February 1995: Some 2,000 people gather in Meadville, Penn., to hear militia figure Mark "Mark from Michigan" Koernke discuss the steps Americans should take to defend themselves from the "New World Order."

April 19, 1995: A truck bomb brings down the Oklahoma City federal building, killing 168 people, including 19 children in a day-care center, in America's worst domestic terrorist attack. Timothy McVeigh, later convicted in the bombing, had ideological roots both in the Patriot world and among neo-Nazis like William Pierce, whose novel, The Turner Diaries, served as a blueprint for the attack.

Late April 1995: Echoing Patriot rhetoric, the National Rifle Association says "jack-booted government thugs" have "the government's go-ahead to … murder law abiding citizens." Former President George Bush quits the NRA in protest.

June 1995: The Southern Poverty Law Center releases its first-ever count of antigovernment militia and "Patriot" groups. The report finds that 224 Patriot groups, including 131 militias, were active in 1994.

June 3, 1995: A major gathering of common-law activists is held in the Wichita, Kansas, convention center on the anniversary of the 1984 death of Gordon Kahl, a militant tax protester killed four months after murdering two federal agents.

June 15, 1995: In the wake of the Oklahoma bombing, militia leaders and others testify before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee. Many experts see the hearings as something of a militia victory because of the uncritical nature of the questioning.

June 21, 1995: President Clinton signs a directive outlining emergency arrangements in the event of terrorist attacks. It is the first of many actions, including a 1996 order to hire 500 new FBI agents, signifying a new law enforcement emphasis on domestic terrorism.

July 1995: Two militia groups and the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations launch simultaneous campaigns to gather information about and conduct covert surveillance on "opponents."

July 28, 1995: Antigovernment extremist Charles Ray Polk is arrested after trying to purchase a machine gun from an undercover police officer, and is later indicted by federal grand jury for plotting to blow up an Internal Revenue Service building in Austin, Texas.

September 1995: William Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries and leader of the neo-Nazi National Alliance, launches a "militia project," encouraging his members to develop contacts with militias in a bid to influence them.

Oct. 9, 1995: Saboteurs derail an Amtrak passenger train near Hyder, Ariz., killing one person and injuring about 70 others. Several antigovernment messages, signed by the "Sons of Gestapo," are left behind. The perpetrators remain at large.

Nov. 9, 1995: Oklahoma Constitutional Militia leader Willie Ray Lampley and two others are arrested as they prepare explosives to bomb numerous targets, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, gay bars and abortion clinics. Lampley, who wrote letters from prison urging others to violence, is freed in 2006.

Dec. 18, 1995: An IRS employee discovers a plastic drum packed with ammonium nitrate and fuel oil in a parking lot behind the IRS building in Reno, Nev. The device failed to explode a day earlier when a three-foot fuse went out prematurely. Ten days later, tax protester Joseph Martin Bailie is arrested for the crime.

March 25, 1996: A common-law group called the Montana Freemen begins an 81-day standoff in Montana after its leaders are arrested and charged with a multimillion-dollar fraud. The standoff ultimately ends peacefully.

April 5, 1996: Patriot activists mix with neo-Nazis and Klansmen at Jubilation '96, a Lake Tahoe, Nev., gathering of more than 500 people hosted by adherents of the racist and anti-Semitic Christian Identity religion.

April 26, 1996: Two leaders of the Republic of Georgia militia are charged with manufacturing shrapnel-packed pipe bombs. Another member is arrested later and accused of training a team to assassinate politicians.

July 1, 1996: Twelve members of the Arizona Viper Team are arrested on federal conspiracy, weapons and explosives charges after allegedly surveilling and videotaping government buildings as potential targets. All 12 plead guilty or are convicted of various charges, drawing sentences of up to nine years in prison.

Aug. 24, 1996: More than 500 supporters attend a major meeting of the separatist Republic of Texas' "Provisional Government General Council."

Aug. 31, 1996: At the largest Patriot gathering held to date in Washington, D.C., more than 300 people join a "Rally for the Bill of Rights."

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posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 11:45 PM
Continued from last post;

Oct. 11, 1996: Seven members of the Mountaineer Militia are arrested in a plot to blow up the FBI's national fingerprint records center, where 1,000 people work, in West Virginia. Ringleader Floyd "Ray" Looker is sentenced to 18 years in prison. Three others are imprisoned for the plot, one for providing blueprints of the FBI facility to Looker.

Oct. 22, 1996: Michigan Militia leader Tom Wayne gives a presentation to over 500 students at a Michigan college, reflecting widespread and still-spreading interest in the movement.

April 18, 1997: A Patriot group files a notice with Maricopa County officials declaring a new "Country of Arizona" supposedly recognized by the United Nations as "Indigenous Nation No. 215."

April 27, 1997: After a cache of explosives blows up near Yuba City, Calif., Montana Freemen supporter William Robert Goehler is arrested. Investigators later arrest two Goehler associates, one of them a militia leader, after finding 500 pounds of explosives in a motor home parked outside their residence. Six others are arrested on related charges.

May 1997: A Southern Poverty Law Center count shows that the Patriot movement reached its peak in 1996 with 858 groups. Thereafter, the number of Patriot groups will decline steadily for a decade, hitting a low of 131 in 2007.

May 3, 1997: Antigovernment extremists, some formerly with the Sons of Liberty, set fire to the IRS office in Colorado Springs, Colo., causing $2.5 million in damage and injuring a firefighter. Federal agents later arrest five men in connection with the arson, an apparent protest against the tax system. That same day, a six-day standoff between police and Republic of Texas common-law separatists ends. One man is killed in a gun battle with the elite Texas Rangers.

June 2, 1997: Timothy McVeigh is convicted in the Oklahoma bombing and will later be sentenced to death. Co-conspirator Terry Nichols will be tried later in the year and sentenced to life in prison. Accomplice Michael Fortier will accept a plea bargain in which he is sentenced to 12 years in exchange for his testimony.

July 4, 1997: Militiaman Bradley Playford Glover and a co-conspirator are arrested before dawn near Fort Hood, Texas. They planned to invade the base and slaughter foreign troops they mistakenly believed were housed there. Eventually, five other people are arrested, all part of a splinter group from the Third Continental Congress, a kind of militia government-in-waiting.

December 1997: Nearly 100 New York City employees, including some corrections officials, are arrested for using common-law "untaxing" kits to evade taxes. The case underscores how far such ideology has spread.

March 8, 1998: A Texas man with reported separatist views similar to those of the Republic of Texas, claiming to be armed and carrying explosives, attempts to take over a Veterans Affairs office in Waco. He eventually surrenders.

June 1998: A study by the Southern Poverty Law Center shows that in the preceding three years, 19 states have passed new laws or strengthened existing ones to cope with bogus property liens and threats from "common-law" adherents. Another eight states are considering similar actions.

July 1, 1998: Three men are charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction after threatening President Clinton and other federal officials with biological weapons. One of the men arrested, Johnnie Wise, had attended meetings of the separatist Republic of Texas.

July 17, 1998: Optimistically labeled a "patriotic Woodstock," the American Heritage Festival ‘98 in Carthage, Mo., draws as many as 3,000 people over two days.

Dec. 30, 1998: A county grand jury orchestrated by conspiracy-minded former Oklahoma State Rep. Charles Key finds that there is no evidence of a larger conspiracy in the Oklahoma City bombing. Key immediately denounces the findings.

June 11, 1999: Some 160 hard-line Patriots gather for advanced paramilitary training at the North Carolina property of former Special Forces member John Roberts, head of the Militia of East Tennessee.

Aug. 7, 1999: U.S. marshals seize the Tampa, Fla., headquarters of Greater Ministries International Church to preserve evidence. The seizure follows by seven months the indictment of church principals in a massive, Patriot-influenced scam.

Nov. 5, 1999: FBI agents arrest James Kenneth Gluck in Tampa, Fla., after he wrote a 10-page letter to judges in Jefferson County, Colo., threatening to "wage biological warfare." Police find materials in his home to make ricin, a deadly poison.

Dec. 5, 1999: Two members of the California-based San Joaquin Militia are charged with conspiracy in connection with a plot to blow up two 12-million-gallon propane tanks, a television tower and an electrical substation in hopes of provoking an insurrection. The group's leader pleads guilty to plotting to kill a federal judge and blow up the propane tanks, and testifies against his former comrades.

Dec. 8, 1999: Donald Beauregard, head of the militia coalition Southeastern States Alliance, is charged in connection with a plot to bomb energy facilities in Florida and Georgia. Beauregard once claimed to have discovered a secret map detailing a planned UN takeover printed on a box of Trix cereal.

Jan. 1, 2000: Despite Patriot expectations that the millennial date change will bring martial law or massive social collapse, nothing untoward happens.

Mar. 9, 2000: Mark Wayne McCool, the one-time leader of the Texas Militia, is arrested as he allegedly makes plans to attack the Houston federal building, where he thought the UN had a weapons cache. McCool had bought C-4 plastic explosives and an automatic weapon from an undercover FBI agent.

May 2000: Texas Constitutional Militia member John Joe Gray holes up with heavily armed family members, refusing to face charges of assaulting two highway patrolmen. A decade later, Gray will remain in his home.

July 15, 2000: In a lawsuit brought by surviving Davidians, a judicial panel says the government was not responsible for starting the gun battle that began the Waco standoff. The next week, a special counsel will rule that U.S. officials committed "no bad acts" in Waco.

May 24, 2004: During the attempted robbery of a Tulsa bank by father and son Wade and Christopher Lay, a security guard is shot to death. Evidence shows the men wanted money to pay for weapons to kill Texas officials they believed were responsible for the deadly 1993 Waco standoff.

March 19, 2006: David J. D'Addabbo is arrested in Utah for allegedly threatening IRS employees with "death by firing squad" if they tried to collect his taxes.

Jan. 11, 2007: FBI Director Robert Mueller tells the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that the "militia/sovereign citizen movement" is a "threat" to government officials. Mueller says members of these groups "intimidate and sometimes threaten judges, prosecutors, and other officers of the court."

April 26, 2007: Five members of the Alabama Free Militia are arrested in north Alabama in a raid that uncovers a cache of 130 homemade hand grenades, an improvised grenade launcher, and other weapons. Raymond Kirk Dillard, the founder and "commander" of the group, had complained about Mexicans taking over the country and reportedly told his troops to open fire on federal agents if ever confronted.

Early 2008: Due to a spike in threats from "sovereign citizens" and others against federal judges and prosecutors, the U.S. Marshals Service opens a clearinghouse near Washington, D.C., for assessing risks. In fiscal 2008, there will be 1,278 threats and harassing communications — more than double the number of six years earlier. Also in 2008, the Department of Justice launches a National Tax Defier Initiative to address the swelling number of cases involving antigovernment tax protesters.

June 8, 2008: Six people with militia ties are arrested in rural Pennsylvania after officials find stockpiles of weapons intended for terrorist attacks on U.S. officials. Bradley T. Kahle, of the Pennsylvania Citizens Militia, allegedly tells authorities that he intended to shoot black people from a rooftop in Pittsburgh and predicts civil war if a democrat becomes president. Kahle's colleague Perry Landis reportedly wanted to kill Gov. Ed Rendell.

August 2008: In the same month that Barack Obama officially becomes the Democratic Party presidential nominee, the National Rifle Association, which in the 1990s publicly attacked federal law enforcement agents as "jackbooted thugs," joins forces with firearms manufacturers to promote NRA membership in a national campaign ominously dubbed "Prepare for the Storm in 2008." In the coming months, authorities will report that guns and especially ammunition are selling far more quickly than usual.,5

Yet I have not been able to fit it all into two posts.

There is no connection between the list they cite on the last page, and most if not all of the "Patriot List".

posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 02:36 AM
splc is a a group of socialists and racists your all around government pay check lovers. They are gov funded with several "retired" military intel officers as advisers .
Basically its a government backed research group of informants.

I have watched wac for a few years. Nothing is remotely dangerous about them. They go to events and ask questions,those guys throwing pies are more violent than wac.

Have you noticed wec are just some college kids trying to get direction what the world is about.

The splc is linked to the okc bombing, they had met up with mcveigh before the bombing at a white supremest camp ran by splc, supposedly under cover.
They helped McVeigh logistically on okc. That is all we know from court documents of the okc investigation.

Basically splc is a gov group of false flag preparers,informants,racists,bigots.Mixed in with a few special operators.

posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 02:10 PM
From the SPLC timeline

"July 1995: Two militia groups and the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations launch simultaneous campaigns to gather information about and conduct covert surveillance on "opponents.""

Didn't the SPLC conduct their own undercover operations against their opponents too? I can't find any sources on this now, can anyone confirm or rebuke this? It would be quite an irony, if my memory on this is correct.

EDIT to add:

Sorry about using WND as a source, but they appear to be using declassified FBI memos as their source, so it doesn't seem too bad.

"One of the revelations was the involvement of civil-rights attorney Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center in an informant operation. According to the memo, the SPLC was involved in monitoring subjects for the FBI believed to be linked to now-executed bomber Timothy McVeigh, the neo-Nazi compound at Elohim City and the mysterious German national Andreas Carl Strassmeir."

This appears to be what the poster above me is referring to also.

[edit on 20/4/2010 by harpsounds]

posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 02:24 PM
With all of the black faces on their list is the "anti-government" movement still a racist one?

I love the SPLC. Always good for a laugh. Them and the ADL should have their own skit comedy hour.

posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 02:32 PM
well from what has been stated on the record in the court of law. SPLC has handled government informants for the fbi.

Hal turner was one of the highest fbi national security asset admitted In court by the Fbi deputy director under oath.
For those who don't know hal turner is a nazi.racist talk show host he would call people out because they refused to get violent. Then he threatens some judges on his talk show. Gets the book thrown at him. In court it turns out the fbi hired him to stir the race pot and inform on any behavior. Yeah the fbi paid a racist talk show host to spew racism and try to incite violence. Now they are defending it in court.

Don't get me wrong much of the fbi are good folks,however.
Guys this is no joke, the feds can be the most ruthless people in our society.
Sometimes overseeing logistically false flags,blackmail and sanctioning of criminal behavior of other
government leo groups.

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