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Spiritual Awakening- a taste of what it's like

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posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 11:56 PM
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I Love you all.

What I say may come across as mushy and gushy but in truth from the deepest part of me I Love the Creator and to truly Love the One Creator is to Love all. Because the One Creator contains all it cannot abhor any.

So many are so asleep, so "busy". Caught up in time.

You see my Brothers and Sisters, when you aggrieve over the past and worry about the future you forget about the present. The present is truly what exists and is what real, that very present moment that contains all Love.

The key to this current octave of experience in time for us Humans is to live in the moment, find the Love in this moment, and walk with each step in joy and happiness knowing that you are all Loved so deeply.

We are not alone, we are not powerless, and we are each so unique and beautiful.

Feel that Love that is behind your awareness.

If I only cause one person to wake up than I am successful, remember you chose to be here, there is not a separate entity judging you besides yourself.




posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 01:14 AM
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Right back atcha!

I think its awesome to remember, that where ever each person is at on their path....is right where they are to be. Course this doesnt mean that some do not play a part in bringing awareness to others...but its great to know that the unboundless love gives us all no reasons to worry.

All is well...all is well.

But let me add to the others...life is much for 'alive' when you live ever moment being aware that none of this, no moment, is just a coincidence. You can choose to just live and just be and that is fine...you can choose to be all you can be...and this is fine....you can choose to live more for your self and this is a path that offers you something...you can choose to live a life more for others and this offers something.

It is so perfect in every way.



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 04:28 AM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by godddd

Love means living in great harmony wich does not exists, all we know is war and fighting for gods or money.
Love and fighting dont go together, but we fight because we are divided in every way.
So we should see and understand why we are divided and in battle all the time.




Or we should "see" (with the intuition) that we are not really divided at all, that division is merely a mental trick or construct. The mind divides because it must, in order to process data. It has to say, "this or that," and look at "What Is" in small snapshots. The individual mind does not have the scope or breadth of vision to see things as they really are. But the intuitive mind can sometimes grasp it, and can sometimes "know" that the divisions are only arbitrary and necessary because of the limits of the machinery of the human body and brain.


But the fact is we are, and thats why we are so violent.
Thats why i think it is of most importance to understand that division.
One thinks of himself as an individual, a separated human between other humans wich is an isolation of himself.
That isolation is the division, and now that one is separated he can invest in himself, his succes, his kingdom, his truth and so on, and dont worry about the others.
Such a men is competitiv and violent, he will defend his truth, his kindom, his succes.



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 10:11 AM
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In my opinion - - - survival of the fittest is a lower physical reality. Greed is a form of survival of the fittest in a physical reality. Power and wealth are also forms of survival of the fittest in physical reality.

Love is not the reaction to pheromones or to protect - - those are chemical reactions built in to physical to perpetuate the survival of the species.

LOVE is acceptance without judgment. It is unconditional acceptance.



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 05:15 PM
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Text'' We all are Eagles, hypnotized in believing that we are chickens ! ''



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by 11118
I Love you all.

What I say may come across as mushy and gushy but in truth from the deepest part of me I Love the Creator and to truly Love the One Creator is to Love all. Because the One Creator contains all it cannot abhor any.

So many are so asleep, so "busy". Caught up in time.

You see my Brothers and Sisters, when you aggrieve over the past and worry about the future you forget about the present. The present is truly what exists and is what real, that very present moment that contains all Love.

The key to this current octave of experience in time for us Humans is to live in the moment, find the Love in this moment, and walk with each step in joy and happiness knowing that you are all Loved so deeply.

We are not alone, we are not powerless, and we are each so unique and beautiful.

Feel that Love that is behind your awareness.

If I only cause one person to wake up than I am successful, remember you chose to be here, there is not a separate entity judging you besides yourself.




It seems that there are different labels as to what love is when people don't accept the idea of hurt or pain or suffering as love. This is a difficult thing to understand as a creation which has vast amounts of decay in it which causes people to label pain of body or emotion as suffering and 'un'love or sadism. This seeking to understand and then formulate explanations to ease pain and suffering no doubt lends to even more identification of distinction and separation.

such an interesting format for sure.
Can the format go too far?

I see the energy form as off shoots, creative force, to gather understanding about itself and its nature as creative energy.
... appearing to divide itself into linear like frameworks and timelines to do so. Yet the non-linear is remembered as part of the energy and various creations within many formats of what appears to be linear (time as a by-product.)

If/when universal energy has an interest in no longer moving along this particular creative format and collapses the linear appearance what then will the individuation aspects do which aspects only appear individuated ?
acceptance or a desire to fight and cling to individuationm - or I should specify it's a sense of individuation.
I see that as the place this creative format is at because of the long period of individuation. Creative energy in this format has forgotten it is part of the whole. (as attested by many on this thread and others.)

Has this format of creative energy served whatever useful information it has gathered?
I suspect it has and a change would appear to be a annhilation to this format of psuedo individualized energy awareness.

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posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
In my opinion - - - survival of the fittest is a lower physical reality. Greed is a form of survival of the fittest in a physical reality. Power and wealth are also forms of survival of the fittest in physical reality.

Love is not the reaction to pheromones or to protect - - those are chemical reactions built in to physical to perpetuate the survival of the species.

LOVE is acceptance without judgment. It is unconditional acceptance.



I think love is intelligence, knowing how to live in harmony with others and everything that surrounds you.
Therefore we need only to feel and appriciate life.
But we dont, for economic we destroy the forrest, polut the air and sea, kill animals and destroy there habitat.
For religion and a flag or something else we disagree on, we even fight and kill eachother.



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 02:55 PM
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I will repost a previous post of mine in describing, as best as I can, what Love actually is and I shall add on to this.


Love may be seen as the type of energy of an extremely high order which causes intelligent (consciously aware) energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent (consciously aware) infinity in a particular way. All Love emanates from the Oneness. The focusing of Free Will yields Love. It is the force behind the action of your and all else's Free Will including consciousness.

Edit: I wanted to add a significant symbolic point of my above explanation in regards to relationships between entities, the Oneness that is created from these relationships is a prime example of why Love is contained in such. It is the interaction of the Creator with the Creator it is Oneness.

Just as Sol keeps the planets so closely too it with Infinite Love. Oneness.


You are Love, as is everything else.

Gaze at that pontificated reality, and realize that that reality, that mystery, is love, an energy indescribable. The infinite intelligence of the one Creator is love, unpotentiated, unpolarized, unaware. It merely loves. The active principle of free will is chosen again and again by the Creator, Who chooses to make a creation and form active principles of Itself that It may learn of Its own nature. The nature of the Creator is love; the nature of you is love; the nature of your circumstances is love. Whatever they may be, all is as it should be.

You are not the knee of the Creator or the eyelash of the Creator. You are the Creator, stepped down through many dimensions of time and space. Yet you are a hologram of the Creator. How do you know the will of the Creator? By moving into the depths of yourself. For there lies the one infinite Creator, with no iota missing. You are a very young and inexperienced Creator. Yet your will is the will of the Creator. Therefore, you must ask yourself what kind of Creator you wish to be. What kind of creation do you wish to create?

We all will coalesce once again into the one infinite Creator and become an unpotentiated unity. And in that beating of the great heart of creation, one creation shall end and another begin. Indefinitely.



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by 11118
The nature of the Creator is love; the nature of you is love; the nature of your circumstances is love. Whatever they may be, all is as it should be.


I thank you for taking the time to share with me your understanding and perceptions.
I should explain that at this time I’m undergoing some intense emotions arising due to experiencing a recent death. It’s brought up some things in a way that hasn’t occurred for me before.
Sometimes when I’m able to release focus on the emotion of labeling stuff I’m able to catch that gulp of non-labeled love and then even the term love disappears with an acceptance that pervades.
Yes, all is as it should be. And when it is not as it should be it will change into something else that it “”should”” be.
:-]
That’s for certain. Ever creating. And yet the labeling of stuff is part of gathering the information. If it were to be different it would have been so yes, it is as it should be….such as it is. Focusing in on emotion becomes extremely polarized, or perhaps bi-polar is more the correct word. Emotional and chemical physical human makeup is very interesting to experience within.



Originally posted by 11118
You are not the knee of the Creator or the eyelash of the Creator. You are the Creator, stepped down through many dimensions of time and space. Yet you are a hologram of the Creator. For there lies the one infinite Creator, with no iota missing. You are a very young and inexperienced Creator. Yet your will is the will of the Creator. Therefore, you must ask yourself what kind of Creator you wish to be. What kind of creation do you wish to create?



If it is correct as you say that “I” am a very young and inexperienced Creator and if it is also correct as you say that I am the creator, this would mean that “I” the creator would null and void the concept of being young and inexperienced, as Creator would have no age persay, unless perceived that way through an individualization process we now experience or perceive here? Otherwise the age/time thing is a linear concept and construct format. (as I mentioned in the previous post.) See what I mean? If Creator is all and all is then at the least without an age origin then your scrambling to label something to understand it in a context of linear age (this individual/separated construct) rather than non-linear (whole without the same sense of separate indivualizing as here.) I’m not clear exactly on what you’re saying here. It’s not always easy to describe things in words and I understand that challenge. You are the creator, ageless I presume, and yet young and in-experienced? By saying that your will is the will of the Creator then wouldn’t that null and void the inexperienced age thing based on the concept that Creator would be energy without an age distinction? Or are you trying to do the achievement level goal destination thingy which when humans do that it almost always tends to get caught up in age references?

I may not have described myself properly but I thought I described a similar thing (if I’m understanding you correctly which I really am not sure if I am) by saying,

energy forms a creative force, to gather understanding about itself and its nature as creative energy. ... appearing to divide itself (in a sense of individualization or separation) into linear like frameworks and timelines to do so. Yet the non-linear (whole) is remembered as part of the energy and various creations within many formats of what appears to be linear (time as a by-product.) < exerpt>

At first glance the words you write describe the same sense of individualization I attempted to describe… (again not sure if I’m understanding you in the manner which you intend) as in the previous post i wrote the creative desire to know more about various creative formats thereby setting up a sense of individuation/separation to gather information and return it into the whole to continue flexing the muscle and building upon more creative information as experienced and processed in this human format….always creating variances to expand in creation and new creative stuff.



Originally posted by 11118
How do you know the will of the Creator? By moving into the depths of yourself.




This is another way of how I phrased moving into individualization/separation formats to gather information to further create. If you re-read it I suspect you will find that we share more agreement than differences. Yet I understand for the mind and emotion processes are geared to analyze in differences to gather information to learn and study.




Originally posted by 11118
We all will coalesce once again into the one infinite Creator and become an unpotentiated unity. And in that beating of the great heart of creation, one creation shall end and another begin. Indefinitely.



I agree and I must not have phrased my words properly and yet if I am to read your words as they stand I’m unclear (again it could be a challenge to describe in words) as you first wrote that we are neither the eyelash nor the knee, but that we are the creator and I’m confused because in the above snip you say we coalesce once again into the one infinite creator, which I would understand to mean that you’re saying that if we will coalesce again into the One then we are now experience a fragment, say perhaps like a knee or an eyelash?
Do you see my confusion in reading your words?

Not clear on your words but the spirit of understanding will help us come together on this in a sense of harmony, of that I am quite sure. We can take it all and transmute it into an understanding of harmony and new ideas for which to understand and further create.



Originally posted by 11118
One creation shall end and another begin.



I agree. How could I not?
Which brings me full circle to my previous post on experiencing the emotional sense through this creative format as it is doubtless to me that this particular format will end/change and anther format begin.
It’s run its course and served its purpose. Information gathered through this format of senses and individuation or sense of separation will produce yet another format.
It has always been this way.
What will it produce?
Aaaah, that is the creative glory we shall find out.
I see that the individuation formats (bodies) have become so emotionally entangled that people have an interesting sense of individual and separateness and yet an interesting sense of what unity is or could be. A thousand belief systems to fight for separation in the name of unity.
Very interesting indeed.A warm hug to you beautiful soul in the lovely exchange of ideas.We shall see where they take us.



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posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Tryptych
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The universe is a one big "Yes"


Can't remember who said that. People like Lennon always get murdered. And that makes them even stronger.




The last person I've heard to reinvent the yes was Eckart Tolle's teachings.

The universe is one big yes......
.....unless it's one big no.

Even more interesting at this time when most of the universe peoples are in one big
oooh noooo !!



just playin with ya havin fun.

I think the oh no's are pretty visible in the world/universe/people
therefore the universe would represent what we see now
which is a big yes
and a big no.

To deny the presence of the no's would be, um, denial?


Yes?

p.s.
seentoomuch, I do love your picture.
That cat's been eating one too many catnip leaves.
yes?
no!

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posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 06:17 PM
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You are, the Infinite One forgetting who it is only to remember who it is and in doing so understanding more of it's identity. Thus, as you slowly awaken you are a young inexperienced Creator, quite the irony, even though you contain within in you the One Creator which is infinity as does any portion of existence no matter how small.

Step 1: Infinity become aware of itself. Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. This has been called by various names, the most common being ‘logos' or ‘Love'.

Intelligent infinity discerned a concept, namely, freedom of will of awareness.

This concept was finiteness. This is the first and primal paradox or distortion of the Creation. Thus the one intelligent infinity invested itself in an exploration of many-ness.

Due to the infinite possibilities of intelligent infinity (or the Oneness), there is no ending to many-ness. The exploration thus is free to continue infinitely into an eternal present.


From the Infinite One desiring to experience itself arises to Creator. The Creator = The focusing of Intelligent (consciously aware) Infinity into Intelligent (consciously aware) Energy.

Step 2: As the Creator decides to experience Itself It generates into that plenum (nothingness that has the potential for being) full of the glory and the power of the One Infinite Creator which is manifest to our perceptions as space or outer space

The Creator divides into (Or creates) individualized portions of itself.

Step 3: Step by step, the Creator becomes that which may know (or experience) Itself, and the portions of the Creator partake less purely in the power of the original word or thought. The creation itself is a form of consciousness which is unified.

Intelligent infinity has a rhythm or flow as of a giant heart beginning with the central sun as you would conceive of this, the presence of the flow inevitable as a tide of beingness without polarity, without finiteness, the vast and silent all beating outward, outward and inward until all the focuses are complete. Then their spiritual nature or mass calls them inward, inward until all is coalesced. This is the rhythm of reality. Over and over again, creation to creation.

The galaxy and all other material things are products of individualized portions of intelligent infinity. As each exploration began, an individualized portion of the One would, in its turn, find its focus and become co-creator. Using intelligent infinity each portion created a universe. Allowing the rhythm of free choice to flow and playing with the infinite spectrum of possibilities, each individualized portion channeled love/light (The two are inseparable) into intelligent energy, thus creating the so-called Natural Laws of any particular universe. Each has its own local version of illusory Natural Laws.


All that is outside of you is within and each infinitesimal part of your being is Love.

You forget what it is that you chose to do here when you are born, incarnated, because were there not potentials for misunderstanding, there would be no experience. Like a video game with the cheat codes.



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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Strange, having read through the thread, walking between philosophy and mystisism, I have to admit I have no idea what this"enlightenment" actually is .It seems something to long for, yet people talking about it evoke a lot of hate,..or is it jealousy?, in, mostly religious people. It seems that those who attached to "outside providers, or agents"(religion, science) get the angriest when someone discovers/feels he is a God incarnated in the Gnostic tradition.

How come? Is the self-discovering too scary or dangerous to undertake on one's own? Must there always be a wiser Guru to lead the way? And is not needing said Guru always an acceptable excuse for hatred, scorn and ridicule from others?

The Church in general has done it's utter best to kill off any signs of people's self reliance in spiritual matters. If they coudn't murder it, they absorbed it in their sermons (like saints & angels as substitutes for endless Gods, Spirits and natural energies) Like many Christians & Muslims, they act in fear&hatred, while preaching love. The oddest of situations..


Even non-religious people devolve very often in hateful scorn towards those that have found their own "happy place" (my clumsy interpretation of that elusive "enlightenment")

Maybe "enlightenment" is just leaving those contradictions behind to become "whole" (perhaps "again"from a former, forgotten, state of being)??? Being freed from the constant battle within oneself between "knowing there is something afoul" and "not wanting to confront that which is afoul" Too afaid of letting go of that well-known battle, that ever close-by pain, that has become some sort of comfortable blanket for many people. Even suffering can become a comfortzone.....

Just something to ponder I guess

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posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 07:41 PM
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i have enjoyed your posts and divined a sense of the unspoken amongst them.
like all knowledge, it merely points the way, which is to be valued highly, it gives direction that a soul may discover itself, the undivided.

perhaps its language but i found -----quote;-

"The active principle of free will is chosen again and again by the Creator, Who chooses to make a creation and form active principles of Itself that It may learn of Its own nature. --unquote

-------myself unable to accept that the supreme being would not already know of its own nature. i don't think it is possible for finite minds to comprehend the infinite. as pleasing as it is to individuals, it is illogical.
its a bit like putting your hand in your own hip pocket and holding yourself out at arms length!



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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If One was to think from a logical standpoint, Infinity cannot know Infinity without experiencing it through finite continuums - but because there is endless finite continuums within Infinity it is impossible for Infinity to ever actually know Infinity and thus continues indefinitely.

It also may be deeper than this, it is Love experiencing Love. Such a deep profound comprehension of reality can create a beautiful perspective from a persons view.

Perhaps it can be understood that the Creator does not properly create as much as it experiences itself.

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posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by diakrite
Strange, having read through the thread, walking between philosophy and mystisism, I have to admit I have no idea what this"enlightenment" actually is .It seems something to long for, yet people talking about it evoke a lot of hate,..or is it jealousy?, in, mostly religious people. It seems that those who attached to "outside providers, or agents"(religion, science) get the angriest when someone discovers/feels he is a God incarnated in the Gnostic tradition.

How come? Is the self-discovering too scary or dangerous to undertake on one's own? Must there always be a wiser Guru to lead the way? And is not needing said Guru always an acceptable excuse for hatred, scorn and ridicule from others?

The Church in general has done it's utter best to kill off any signs of people's self reliance in spiritual matters. If they coudn't murder it, they absorbed it in their sermons (like saints & angels as substitutes for endless Gods, Spirits and natural energies) Like many Christians & Muslims, they act in fear&hatred, while preaching love. The oddest of situations..


Even non-religious people devolve very often in hateful scorn towards those that have found their own "happy place" (my clumsy interpretation of that elusive "enlightenment")

Maybe "enlightenment" is just leaving those contradictions behind to become "whole" (perhaps "again"from a former, forgotten, state of being)??? Being freed from the constant battle within oneself between "knowing there is something afoul" and "not wanting to confront that which is afoul" Too afaid of letting go of that well-known battle, that ever close-by pain, that has become some sort of comfortable blanket for many people. Even suffering can become a comfortzone.....

Just something to ponder I guess

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Diakrite-
One of the most elegant replies on the thread so far. Bravo.
Especially the part about people using their fear and suffering as a blanket. Sure its comfy and you blend in with all the other blanket wearers...but it also smothers you and hides your eyes from the glory of who you really are!

Throw off the blanket! Step naked into the warm sunshine of your Godhood. Sure the blanket babies will point and laugh....but you can smile and KNOW the awesome splendor of your True Self.

Namaste!
-Boypony


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posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by godddd

Originally posted by Annee

LOVE is acceptance without judgment. It is unconditional acceptance.



I think love is intelligence, knowing how to live in harmony with others and everything that surrounds you.

Therefore we need only to feel and appriciate life.
But we dont, for economic we destroy the forrest, polut the air and sea, kill animals and destroy there habitat.

For religion and a flag or something else we disagree on, we even fight and kill eachother.



If you accept unconditionally without judgment.

Isn't that harmony?



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 01:22 AM
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You are a very young and inexperienced Creator. Yet your will is the will of the Creator. Therefore, you must ask yourself what kind of Creator you wish to be. What kind of creation do you wish to create?


Yes, we're the clip holding in the roll of infinite film, making it real, here where we perceive separation, and we're "becoming" ourselves. Part of this is envisioning, yearning for, and trying to create a eutopia here, but, part of this is defining or wishing for who we are as unique individuals as well. And its always about Love. The "no time" message of connecting by staying in the present really hit home. Thank you for that reminder.



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by 11118


Perhaps it can be understood that the Creator does not properly create as much as it experiences itself.



I like that.

In an OBE as a child - I experienced "All Encompassing Love". There is nothing in this physical experience that even comes close.

The closest thing would be a parents love for a child. Which pales in comparison to what I experienced.



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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What ever you have been told it is not that
What ever you believe ....it is not that
What ever you can point at it is not that

To be emptied is to throw every thing out of the the laundry basket
That means any notions you may have ...
about god or love ..life or death

A wonderful Buddhist saying goes like this

"When you meet Buddha along the way kill him"

Meaning >>>>When you meet your god along the way ....kill it

why because ...your belief in your god will keep you blinded

There for god is one of the last things out of the laundry basket

Yet there is still something left in the basket

And that is nothing ....got to throw out the idea of being nothing

Because being nothing is still being something

Enlightenment is a "now" thing ...
it is to slip between two infinite boundless moments

To become that which is without reflection..
neither..... Being and neither .. not being

Is there a god ...this cannot be known ...because how can I see ..
when I am being "all that I am"..oneness has no reflection

I am ...All that I am ....neither all and neither nothing

The holy ghost ...."whole" .. Is that which is "divinely being" .....
And I only know when I am not being it
For it is with out reflection

it is the Ghost of being all and yet nothing at the same time .....
to be in a state of holyness



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 03:11 AM
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The Creator is Love, and that is what shall move me into the mystery clad being that the Creator is with not blind faith but trust.

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