Technology seems to have (some of) us on the verge of living hundreds or even thousands of years. To what lengths would our masters go in order to achieve this? i.e. What would David Rockefeller be willing to do to live for another few hundred years?

An important area in all of this overpopulation. Our elitist masters are already bombarding us daily with 'reports' showing there's already too many people on earth. But if everyday humans are to be able to live an average lifespan of 175 years, what now? The 'best case scenario' I could describe would be a massive global program enforcing Zero Population Growth. But this discussion is more about how far would they go, not best cases, so what are your feelings on this?

My research has indicated for years that in order to kickstart the radical technologies needed for radical life extansion, Strong AI (AGI) is being pursued ASAP in order to bring this about as efficiently as possible. I've debated many other issues with people where this topic has come up and too often people reject the idea that the control freak elitists would hand over power to the new AGI 'skynet' "gods". But I argue that in the quest to become living 'gods' they'll be willing to take this plunge. Or perhaps they might delude themselves into thinking they'll somehow be able to control their frankenstein, which is easy to consider as they are control freaks.

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Maybe some citations of your research would help you get your point across.

For TPTB it would be easier to instill some kind of faceless figure. Something out of 1984 if you know what i mean. Keep the people thinking they can live forever, without actually having to live forever.

Now we are talking, gimme some time to sort through these links, and hopefully in a few minutes I will be able to post a better response.

But to be honest I don't think I'll change my mind. I'm pretty sure life extension is possible but to a point. Living forever seems a bit much.

Very interesting OP.

I don't think anybody thinks more about prolonging their own life even if they wont admit it.

I will go through the links and get back to you.


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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
I'm trying to find a reference for my next argument, but I'm 99% sure it's right. As we get more technologically advanced population growth slows. This is due to fact that people are able to wait longer before they have children and there is no longer a need to have large numbers of offspring to bring in income and do other work.

This has a lot more to do with greater education and wealth, whereas technology is inherent in the whole process.

So, if people are able to live even five times longer, they may not wait until they are 100 to have their first child.

They may wait, but if they dont then thats where it breaks down. And we're talking about there currently being almost 7 billion people at different stages of life. With that many people how would it work in the best case sense without tyrannical population controls?

More importantly, according to the exponential growth theories of many of the sooth-sayers promoting this stuff, eventually over enough time any technology will become cheap enough for the masses. So following this logic, even if TPTB decided to do nothing drastic other than limit access to it, it would break free and the population issue would be front stage. Assuming they're aware of this, then measures would have to be taken, because its already obvious that there is already too many people as far as TPTB are concerned. One action would be to plunder the world so that no one would ever be able to afford much of any of it, And I argue that we've already seen this in effect via the Great Recession and looming total global economic collapse.

With the exponential increase in intelligence that will come through much of the same technology that will allow us to live forever, we would also be able to colonize other planets not too long after we develop strong AI.

But they wouldnt even need us to take over the universe, as by then they could have robots for these purposes they only use resources while actually in use, so then when not in use they can be stored away in large off city warehouses keeping the fabulous cities from being so crowded.

Just trying to kick some ideas around here.

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Judging purely on the Gerital Consumption of the Elite - I would say, youth was still out of their price range. just an observation of immotality

35 years ago my father was a porter at hull university in UK. he told ne about experiments with mise and immortality. he never found out any details. but my point is. they have been trying for a very very long time. I think they have it now! but what idiot would hand it out to every one? just look at the world now?

do you know every cell in your body (not the teeth) are replaces’t over time. even the brain. so your body now is not the body you had 20 years ago. you are a new body...

hahahahahaaa it cost $60,000 now adays to stay in the hospital for 3 days, even if you are able to afford a anti ageing or reversal ageing treatment that would prolly cost millions and insurance most likely wouldn't cover it... Like you said the poor die younger and this will be more noticeable when gene therapy is let known. It prolly already is ready but the agenda of deletion of sirt like me that suck at talking will have to be get destroyed cause I suck at being a sheeple even htough I would love to be one.

All it is going to be is delayed more and more and don't forget other things like people who are dumb and are naturally screwed by fate. Those people that are not sociable. It is hard to get a job if you are anti-social. It is illegal for antisocial scum to succeed in our society, you have to be a part of a team and if you wern't as a kid it seems tougher nowadays.

Death in inevitable for me, my fate that was handed to me due to lack of information just hastened it up. Dreamers get destroyed and freaks are determined to stay freaks cause it is all I know how to be.

It could have been prevented a long time ago but the creator or creator of the current structure of line, socity and fate deny happyness in a 3 fold curse of screw you.

For what, why would I want to live forever here? I wouldn't ghost haunt me now and I would not want to llive with their messing with me forever especially when I would have to pay millions or hundreds of thousands in order to learn how this may be able to get stopped.

It makes sense now.

I am just heated that growing up I saw the potential of gene therapy and stuff like that but I was still dreaming and then you get tripped and stompped on because of my sadness aquired growing up due to not caring what others thought and not talking. it is a giant joke. A giant bologna stream that gets crappy people dead but only if you see your line and try to "fight" back.

Ghost attacks intensafiy at time like this typeing episode, are they trying to make me type more or make me fight them? IDK but I am not good at putting myself in other people shoes as I thought. Haunted via every angle sux.

This is what happens when you see yourself in electric, they "attack" in more and more numbers. 0 is not a fun number and neither is the drip that I feel on my chest when ghost or w/e want to prove a poin that I do not understand because my brain is to slow to realize before I forget, so I am defintly done.

I am very glad I found this tread. This is a subject that I have thought about for quite some time. Me personally, I would want to live for an extra 100 years. I would enjoy seeing my future family grow with great,great,great,great grandchildren. I wonder if you would have to reach a ceritan financial level to afford this technology or if it would eventually afordable to every one. Example - DVD palyer in 1990's $1,000 - 2010 $50.00. I look forward to future posts on this issue.
Just a thought.