It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

The Roots of Stalin in the Tea Party Movement

page: 1
1
<<   2 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Apr, 18 2010 @ 11:20 AM
link   

The Tea Party movement's dirty little secret is that its chief financial backers owe their family fortune to the granddaddy of all their hatred: Stalin's godless empire of the USSR.

The secretive oil billionaires of the Koch family, the main supporters of the right-wing groups that orchestrated the Tea Party movement, would not have the means to bankroll their favorite causes had it not been for the pile of money the family made working for the Bolsheviks in the late 1920s and early 1930s, building refineries, training Communist engineers and laying down the foundation of Soviet oil infrastructure.


www.alternet.org...

So much for the Tea Party being a completly grassroots campaign.

The homepage of Koch industries.

www.kochind.com...

What do members of the Tea Party think of this?




posted on Apr, 18 2010 @ 11:50 AM
link   
The ROOTS of the Tea Party Movement that started in 2007 belong to Ron Paul's supporters and his bid at Presidency.
thenewliberty.com...

What started out small rapidly grew and grew to the point where the GOP saw an opportunity to exploit and co-opt the movement.

Alternet is just another bias media outlet.



posted on Apr, 18 2010 @ 11:53 AM
link   
I am amazed at the attempt to ridicule, demeen, and demonize a movement by ordinary Americans tired of government out of control.

The only positive out of this is that the tactics used wouldn't be necessary if the movement wasn't effective.



posted on Apr, 18 2010 @ 12:00 PM
link   
reply to post by zzombie
 


I said not a 'completly grassroots movement'. Obviously there is a big element of grassroots there, but it is clearly funded by a lot of murky characters exactly the same as the Democratic and Republican parties are.

I thought this was on of the elements of mainstream politics the Tea Party was against?

And i am not attempting to ridicule anyone. Just asking some questions.



[edit on 18-4-2010 by Peruvianmonk]



posted on Apr, 18 2010 @ 01:45 PM
link   
I read the whole article. Interesting. The fact that they earned their initial family fortune in Russia is intriguing.

It appears that after their engineers were carted off to Stalin's Gulag, that the Koch boys had seen enough of Communism to make them hold strong views against it.

Regarding the oil measurement scam, that's pretty bad. It's a settled lawsuit. Fair enough.

Read the book "Gulag Archipelago", by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, and you'll get a good idea of what the Koch boys were opposing.



posted on Apr, 18 2010 @ 01:55 PM
link   

Originally posted by zzombie
The ROOTS of the Tea Party Movement that started in 2007 belong to Ron Paul's supporters and his bid at Presidency.
thenewliberty.com...

What started out small rapidly grew and grew to the point where the GOP saw an opportunity to exploit and co-opt the movement.


That is all somewhat correct though the present TPM unrelated to Ron Paul was mostly the marketing invention of Rick Santelli, Michelle Malkin, and freedomworks. As opposed to the libertarian based RP Tea Party reference, the current TPM is simply the rebranding of the far right of the republican party. Though some are desperately trying to portray it as a "new" grass roots movement, it is simply the naming of what has always been an existing demographic with the republican party which has simply been given a name to promote it a something new. It isn't.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by haterproof]



posted on Apr, 18 2010 @ 02:17 PM
link   
The Libertarian Party was founded by David Nolan of Colorado Springs on 12/11 1971.
By 1972 they had their first electoral college vote for a Libertarian presidential ticket, from Roger MacBride of Virginia. He also cast the first vote for a woman in the United States Electoral College. MacBride became the party's presidential nominee in the 1976 Presidential Election. Dick Randolph became the first Libertarian to win state-level office with his election to the Alaska House of Representatives in 1978. The 1980 presidential contest, the Libertarian Party, for first time since 1916, became the third party. David H. Koch and Ed Clark received almost one million votes. In 1981, Richard P. Siano, beat out both a Republican and Democrat for the Kingwood Township Committeeman in Hunterdon NJ. The Libertarian Party, in 1983, was divided by internal disputes; former party leaders Edward Crane and David H. Koch left, taking a number of their supporters with them. The 1984 LP (Libertarian Party) elected David Bergland as their presidential nominee and earned one quarter of a 36 state ballot! By 1987, Doug Anderson was elected as the first LP Mayor of Denver CO. In 1988, Ron Paul won the Libertarian nomination for president and was on the ballot in 46 states.

health.groups.yahoo.com...
www.lakewood.org.../citycouncil/councilcontact.cfm
www.ballot-access.org...
www.lp.org...
www.smallgovtimes.com...

en.wikipedia.org...
www.lp.org...




[edit on 18-4-2010 by Violater1]



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 07:21 PM
link   
Another great article on this subject:

exiledonline.com...



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 10:07 PM
link   
reply to post by Peruvianmonk
 


What do they think?

They think you are a socialist that should be put down for daring to address the fact that the Tea Party is run by neocon fascists who helped Bush drive America into the ground.

They think that you are a secret Agent sent here to destroy a movement that has more holes than a block of swiss cheese.

Obama may not be perfect but he is certainly much better than the neocon fascists the neocons love to promote.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 10:18 PM
link   
reply to post by Carseller4
 


Why were they were not tired of "out of control big government" from 2000-2008?

The Tea Party should be called the "Neocon Warmonger Tea Party"
because its a more accurate name.

They would rather go into debt by means of war than to spend the money at home.

The Tea Party would rather spend a million dollars on a cruise missile to blow up some civilians than to use those million dollars internally for the good of America.

I know who I am going to stand with, its not Sara Palin and the neocons.

Obama in 2012 all the way!



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 10:57 PM
link   
And the SOP comes out.

Where were you blah blah blah. See, the attempted takeover by the Repubs have ties to STALIN. See the Dems have this nice Coffee party now that wants higher taxes for everyone and more governmental control over everything, it is a much better movement.

Jeez, the Dems and the Repubs are the same party. The same party but so many keep falling for the same over and over and over again.

You guys may want to get a new spiel. It is not working.

Third party, anti incumbent, anti big government, anti war.

Sorry, this movement has it all, the truth. Sorry, the two party snake is going to die this year. If not, watch this country come apart.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 06:59 PM
link   

Originally posted by endisnighe
And the SOP comes out.

Where were you blah blah blah. See, the attempted takeover by the Repubs have ties to STALIN. See the Dems have this nice Coffee party now that wants higher taxes for everyone and more governmental control over everything, it is a much better movement.

Jeez, the Dems and the Repubs are the same party. The same party but so many keep falling for the same over and over and over again.

You guys may want to get a new spiel. It is not working.

Third party, anti incumbent, anti big government, anti war.

Sorry, this movement has it all, the truth. Sorry, the two party snake is going to die this year. If not, watch this country come apart.


The Tea-Party movement does not have all that.

You want all that and more? Go for the Green Party, they've been around a lot longer, they're much more trustworthy, and Reps/Dems are notorious for using dirty tactics to shut out the green party from just about everything- elections, media, ballots, debates, etc.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 03:18 AM
link   

Originally posted by samhouston1886
reply to post by Carseller4
 


Why were they were not tired of "out of control big government" from 2000-2008?

The Tea Party should be called the "Neocon Warmonger Tea Party"
because its a more accurate name.

They would rather go into debt by means of war than to spend the money at home.

The Tea Party would rather spend a million dollars on a cruise missile to blow up some civilians than to use those million dollars internally for the good of America.

I know who I am going to stand with, its not Sara Palin and the neocons.

Obama in 2012 all the way!



I just mini vomited up my nose.. that's some epic partisan drivel, but it's not fooling anyone paying attention.

Neo-clowns and obama-bots are fringe cultists who worship chronic failures AKA GOP & DNC.. tea-people STARTED by urinating on both.

The out-break of a 3rd wave of opinion threatened the DC Mafias power sharing, so of course the GOP & DNC elite have taken aim to discredit and paint US citizens "dangerous" for waking up and rejecting the status quo.

Yes, the MSM DC propaganda assault has wounded the tea people.. both parties have sponsored tea rallies and attracted loud wack-o fringe cultists that represent the worst extremes of both political wings... middle of the road folks who would happily watch obama, his dick cousin & bush rot in a cell together.. are being downed out.

Tea people, thus far, lack a traditional honest up from the ranks "dear leader" GOP & DNC-bots are programed to worship.. wingers are confused and can't figure out how to label the scary threat to their precious party.. neo-con, communist, liberal, war monger..uh, poopy heads! Right/left wing-bots need to be led, told specifically by their dear party leader what to believe.. they cant fathom rallying with a fresh new non traditional 'tea party' with brothers & sister citizens sick of both establishment partys epic sucking.

Not too worry, soon enough.. after some growing pains, tea people will grow tired of the GOP/DNC tactics, unite against "the man" and clarify their independence.. they'll have to explain it to the GOP/DNC cultists in terms a 5th grader could understand: "BOTH partys lost our vote". until then, snipe away with whatever characterization sticks to the wall, it's easy and TPTB who are ruining the nation appreciate the help...

..and are giggling at their "Sim" slaves turning on each other, when we should all be uniting to oust "them".



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 04:16 AM
link   
reply to post by GovtFlu
 


that was hilarious



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 10:08 AM
link   
reply to post by GovtFlu
 


If you vomited it must be due to your own hypocrisy, the Campaign for Liberty where the real Patriots are while the Tea Party is a bunch of G.O.P suckups who changed their name to the Tea Party.

In reality the Tea Party is a bowel movement and should be flushed with all their G.O.P pro torture, pro war, pro bail out hypocrisy.
As soon as a Black man moved into the White House they miraculously had a change of heart and began to oppose everything they loved for 8 years.

They are the people who laughed at Ron Paul and had riot Police beat returning Iraq War Veterans for speaking out against the war.
They are the people who said Bush was Heaven sent and tried to throw Adam Kokesh from the rafters when Mcinsane accepted the nomination.

To be frank I could care less what Obama does to them, they are posturing for a fight with the Government and if they keep it up they will get one

If I have to choose between Obama and a bunch of people who secretly love torture and war then the choice is easy.
See it’s not that Obama is that great, its that the Tea really, really sucks.

There are no real Patriots in the Tea Party, only fascists using the cover of Patriotism and Freedom.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 10:08 AM
link   
reply to post by GovtFlu
 


If you vomited it must be due to your own hypocrisy, the Campaign for Liberty where the real Patriots are while the Tea Party is a bunch of G.O.P suckups who changed their name to the Tea Party.

In reality the Tea Party is a bowel movement and should be flushed with all their G.O.P pro torture, pro war, pro bail out hypocrisy.
As soon as a Black man moved into the White House they miraculously had a change of heart and began to oppose everything they loved for 8 years.

They are the people who laughed at Ron Paul and had riot Police beat returning Iraq War Veterans for speaking out against the war.
They are the people who said Bush was Heaven sent and tried to throw Adam Kokesh from the rafters when Mcinsane accepted the nomination.

To be frank I could care less what Obama does to them, they are posturing for a fight with the Government and if they keep it up they will get one

If I have to choose between Obama and a bunch of people who secretly love torture and war then the choice is easy.
See it’s not that Obama is that great, its that the Tea really, really sucks.

There are no real Patriots in the Tea Party, only fascists using the cover of Patriotism and Freedom.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 10:08 AM
link   
reply to post by GovtFlu
 


If you vomited it must be due to your own hypocrisy, the Campaign for Liberty where the real Patriots are while the Tea Party is a bunch of G.O.P suckups who changed their name to the Tea Party.

In reality the Tea Party is a bowel movement and should be flushed with all their G.O.P pro torture, pro war, pro bail out hypocrisy.
As soon as a Black man moved into the White House they miraculously had a change of heart and began to oppose everything they loved for 8 years.

They are the people who laughed at Ron Paul and had riot Police beat returning Iraq War Veterans for speaking out against the war.
They are the people who said Bush was Heaven sent and tried to throw Adam Kokesh from the rafters when Mcinsane accepted the nomination.

To be frank I could care less what Obama does to them, they are posturing for a fight with the Government and if they keep it up they will get one

If I have to choose between Obama and a bunch of people who secretly love torture and war then the choice is easy.
See it’s not that Obama is that great, its that the Tea really, really sucks.

There are no real Patriots in the Tea Party, only fascists using the cover of Patriotism and Freedom.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 10:22 AM
link   
reply to post by Peruvianmonk
 


Give me a break. First, all political movements are born out of extremes, with modern progressives taking a page out of Marx and Mao. A simple view of the supporters of Obama and the current left (Soros for example) and you will find hard-core leftists.

Second, hammering folks for what their ancestors did is moronic.

Third, the fact that folks have family roots in Stalinist makes it quite logical that they would be supportive of anti-government movements.

Just another way to tie average people with serious concerns about the direction of the country to extremests.

You're better known by your enemies than your friends. The TPM party is easy to figure out. What do they support? Limited government, fiscal restraint, scaling back of the federal role in the governing of states, low taxes. The railing against these folks is driven from fear of their agenda and thats because it makes sense to a lot of people. Who would be threatened by them and why?

Why that is an extreme political agenda is beyond me. The challenge here is that they are larger than they have been historically, have financing and will make an impact on the next election.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 10:26 AM
link   
reply to post by No King but Jesus
 


Believe me when I tell you that it’s not as hilarious as a bunch of warmonger neocons forming a party that claims to love freedom that will save us from the evil Barack Obama.

What will be really funny is when karma comes back to bite all you neocons in the butt, don’t you guys get it?
The FEMA camps that you laughed at all those years ago were built for you!

You thought that only 9/11 truthers and anti war protesters would be the ones going to the camps and you LOVED it, now reality sets in.
Its poetic justice at its finest, the world will not care one bit because of what you supported and cheer leaded in Iraq.


You are so tainted that Barack Obama and all his lying and taxing has more credibility in his pinky than the whole Tea Party.

Keep denying your past, it won’t help.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 10:31 AM
link   

Originally posted by dolphinfan
reply to post by Peruvianmonk
 


You're better known by your enemies than your friends. The TPM party is easy to figure out. What do they support? Limited government, fiscal restraint, scaling back of the federal role in the governing of states, low taxes. The railing against these folks is driven from fear of their agenda and thats because it makes sense to a lot of people. Who would be threatened by them and why?



Are you to tell me that the neocon Tea Party stands for limited Government?

How do explain the actions of their savior and hero George W Bush?

I do not look to devils and hypocrites for help, anyone who supports the Tea Party must suffer from delusions or amnesia.
You are the bad guys, you loved death, war and torture right up until January 20, 2009 and then like a bunch of scumbags you stripped off your blood covered clothes and donned the gear of Patriots.

ITS SICK!


[edit on 5/7/2010 by samhouston1886]



new topics

top topics



 
1
<<   2 >>

log in

join