Originally posted by sremmos
By the way you guys, when a corrupt officer beats your up for giving him attitude or questioning him (what's your name, badge number) he will write
in his police report that you resisted arrest, and that he was applied force until you stopped resisting, at which point he stopped applying force
against the citizen.
Again your assuming or only saying what you know in a PERSONAL experience. Been doing this for 9 years now and gave my name and badge number to
plenty of pissed off people...did I "write it in my report", NO...why, because it is a persons RIGHT to know who i am and Idon't mind giving them
that info. As I said in my earlier post...ALL OFFICERS are different and handle things differently...so you lumping us together due to YOUR bias and
experiance shows that your narrow minded and can't grasp that we are PEOPLE and we all have different views as we do our job.
He will go to court, and you will explain what happened, and the judge will tell you that the police officer "has no reason to lie" and go
with the police report unless you can provide tangible evidence, and often times, even in the face of tangible evidence.
Again PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with one officer or judge DOES NOT reflect ALL officers and judges....
The best way to combat police brutality, abuse, and corruption, is adequate screening, selection, training, and oversight.
I think a written test, poly, piss test, psych test, background check, and fingerprints is about as much as one can do to screen applicants.
Selection...you can thank affirmitive action for poor selection procedures...as for training...who is going to pay for it? When can we conduct it?
Unlike the military you don't have the luxery of training non-stop or taking entire days to train. Most states mandate atleast 4 hours a month to
training and 30 hours a year...and with budgets the way they are, that is about as much as you will get.
A civilian oversight board is what all of you should be pushing for in your local jurisdictions. You are "We the People," you have to demand
to be policed by consent. Write your local officials, demand a civilian oversight board which has the authority to impose penalties on police officers
and/or terminate them in the case of abuse or misuse of police powers.
I have no problems with that and here at my agency we have civilians on the board for civil service reviews. One isse there again is perception. How
many civilians understand how it actually is dealing with some of the folks we deal with? How many civilians have been shot at on a traffic stop?
How many have dealt with folks high on pcp, coc aine, heroin, meth, etc..? How many went to scenes and dealt with a father who just crushed his
wife's head with a lamp and then cut his own 4 year old daughters throat, then decided to fight when we arrived? As long as they can view things
from BOTH sides and understand the speed, reality, and danger of certain situations then I again have no problems with them on the boards.
My proof of this is that in San Antonio I was a passenger in a vehicle where this happened to the driver. I wrote a statement for the court,
and the judge state that both I and the driver were lying, and that I had lied because the driver was my "friend."
Like I said, YOUR experiance does not reflect all agencies, officers, or court systems.
Always demand trial by Jury it is your legal right, that's what he did and now it doesn't matter what that judge has to say about the police
officer having 'no reason' to lie about why he beat someone up.
I agree...Let a jury decide.
I just read more of the officer in this thread's posts and I realize that I was hasty to jump the gun on him. He seems like a good police
officer and probably does not abuse anyone. My apologies to you.
That makes two of us since I responded before getting to this section. Either way, apology accepted. I do not abuse my power, don't care too. Will
I kick a suspects a@@ who actually resists me...hell yes...I won't hesitate, but doing this for 9 years teaches you some things and someone who
cusses you, is in a bad mood, pissed off, etc...99% of the time can be calmed down by simply saying...HEY...calm down...lol.
That said, I still stand by all of these statements, any police officer who does not understand his oath and any police officer who thinks he
is above the law or has the right to beat up people for being 'rude' should not be one, and civilian oversight boards for every county in the
country would be the best thing that ever happened to policing.
I agree...and as I have said MANY TIMES...officers who act out and can't do this job should be removed...and luckily in the cases I have seen or
researched where the officer was a complete douchbag is no longer a cop and paid for his actions.
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