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Black nobility, house of orange, Frescobaldi

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posted on Apr, 16 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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Daniel Estulin claims the Rothschild and Rockefeller's are not the big wigs at all. Which I support because their household names suggest they are nobody important anyway. So who is?

The Venetian Black nobility


In Carthage, the Canaanites called themselves Punics. Rome attacked Carthage in full force, beginning in 264BC and completed their task after killing or enslaving every Carthaginian, by sowing the land to salt so that nothing could ever grow there again. The Edomites descended from Esau later intermarried with the Turks to produce a Turco-Edomite mixture which later became known as Chazars (Khazars) - who are the present occupants of Israel. These Canaanites eventually adopted the name "Sepharvaim" for deceptive purposes. They later became known as Venetians, and by marrying into European royalty and aristocracy, the "black nobility." The Venetians today control the Federal Reserve system in the US.

Around AD1400, European power centers coalesced into two camps: the Ghibellines, who supported the Emperors Hohenstaufen family, and the Guelphs, from Welf, the German prince who competed with Frederick for control of the Holy Roman Empire. The Pope allied himself with the Guelphs. All modern history stems directly from the struggle between these two powers. The Guelphs are also called the Neri, Black Guelphs, or Black Nobility, and supported William of Orange in his seizure of the throne of England, which eventually resulted in the formation of the Bank of England and the East India Company, which would rule the world from the 17th century. All coup d’etats, revolutions and wars in the 19th and 20th centuries are centered in the battle of the Guelphs to hold and enhance their power, which is now the New World Order.


Now William of Orange, is part of the House of Orange


The Black Nobility belong to the "Committee of 300" that controls the UN. Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands has the power to veto the Vatican's choice of any pope it selects. This may explain the untimely end to Pope John Paul I's 33-day pontificate. The Prince has veto power because his family, the Habsburgs, are descended directly from the last Roman emperor. (The Habsburg Frederick III was the last emperor to be crowned in Rome; his great-grandson Charles V was the last to be crowned by a pope). This is the civil equivalent of the Pope's claimed "apostolic succession" from Saint Peter.

Prince Bernhard is leader of the Black Families and he also claims descent from the House of David through the Merovingian dynasty, a claim that was acknowledged to be valid by the Carolingian dynasty that supplanted them, by other monarchs and by the Roman Church of that time. Thus he can truly say that he is "related to Jesus".

Prince Bernhard's House of Orange had its origins in France. The Habsburgs are related through marriage with the Merovingians, who are said to have descended from the Tribe of Benjamin who went into exile following war with the other eleven Tribes -- see Judges chapter 21. Exile took them to Arcadia in the central Peloponnese, Greece. Here they aligned with the Arcadian royal line and towards the advent of the Christian era, migrated up the Danube and Rhine, through marriage engendering the Sicambrian Franks -- the immediate forebears of the Merovingians, who were ultimately of Semitic origin, and descendants of King Saul.

www.illuminati-news.com...


Documentary proof as to the existence of the Committee of 300 is not forthcoming, and it may be no more than a convenient phrase to describe certain key players


Now can anybody tie Frescobaldi into this?

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posted on Apr, 16 2010 @ 02:14 PM
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Interesting.. just read a very popular thread regarding Rome controlling the World.. now I come to find out it is really Venice! .. Makes me wonder what Italians think about this.


Rome did slaughter the Carthaginians .. but I've never heard of evidence to suggest the Venetians where Carthaginians (Much of Carthage army were actually Greeks and Phoenician) .. Carthage it's self was a merchant by product of Rome.

Why was Carthage slaughtered? Most historians believe it was probably due to the Battle of Cannae.. where the Carthage general Hannibal cleverly flanked the Romans, pushing them so tight they couldn't even raise their swords. Something like 70k Romans died in the battle, an entire Roman legion, and the worst Roman loss in their history.

What that has to do with the rest of the story you post, I dont know.. except that the Carthaginians were routed from Carthage and spread about the Mediterranean? Not that most of them were actually native to that land anyways.

The Welf dynasty is probably one of the Worlds most accomplished dynasties in our history.. they were attached to every European power.. from the Holy Roman Empire, the Hapsburgs, England, Italy etc.

If you only let your children marry into Royal families.. and there are not many Royal families.. most likely your going to end up related to everyone else. Same today .. the Queen of Great Britain and her husband Prince Philip are 3rd cousins.. even though she's British and he Greek/Danish. Don't know if many Brits know their monarchs are cousins



I went through the ancestry of the Welf dynasty, the current Patriarch of the dynasty (that is almost extinct) is Ernst August V, Prince of Hanover (prince of nothing since Hanover no longer exist...) he's married to Princess Caroline, Heiress Presumptive of Monaco.

I don't think he runs the World. He's got himself a nice comfy spot as an aristocrat even though he no longer has a Kingdom (ended in 1918, he wasn't even born till 1954) .. But, I fail to see how they run the world. From Venice of all places..



posted on Apr, 16 2010 @ 02:22 PM
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The Black Nobility belong to the "Committee of 300" that controls the UN. Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands has the power to veto the Vatican's choice of any pope it selects. This may explain the untimely end to Pope John Paul I's 33-day pontificate. The Prince has veto power because his family, the Habsburgs, are descended directly from the last Roman emperor. (The Habsburg Frederick III was the last emperor to be crowned in Rome; his great-grandson Charles V was the last to be crowned by a pope). This is the civil equivalent of the Pope's claimed "apostolic succession" from Saint Peter.


Interesting read, i'm Dutch and i might add that Price Bernhard is the founding father of the Bilderberg group. Our queen Beatrix is one of the fanatic members of the Bilderberg gatherings. She never misses one.

S&F!

regards



posted on Apr, 16 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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very interesting thread thus far...but why Venice? Venice is quite close to the Italian lake country and Switzerland...why not Switzerland? Zurich? Now that's a big money city.



posted on Apr, 16 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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Does this have anything to do with the Orangemen?

I'm afraid I don't know anything about these guys.



posted on Apr, 16 2010 @ 06:50 PM
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I think Orangemen is what they called supporters of William III from House of Orange-Nassau.



posted on Apr, 17 2010 @ 02:37 AM
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Orangemen specifically were the Protestant supporters in Ireland, it's the origin of "Green and Orange" .. for instance, my mother being Irish Catholic, and my father Protestant English makes me as there offspring "Green and Orange" ..


The OP was more saying that William was in a dynasty that runs the World. Which it did.. but only because every dynasty was actually in the Welf Dynasty because of their habit of marrying their own cousins.



posted on Apr, 17 2010 @ 03:21 AM
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HEHEHE, I just got a hysterical thought when I read the title to this thread; "Black nobility"= same as military intelligence.


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posted on Apr, 17 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by polarwarrior
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I think Orangemen is what they called supporters of William III from House of Orange-Nassau.


Indeed, the house of Oranje-Nassau. It's the family name of the Dutch kingdom. Why you think our sport's supporters are always dressed up in orange



posted on Apr, 19 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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the "Committee of 300" and the "Black Nobility" are both ideas that have been originated and propagated by John Coleman. Coleman a former intelligence operative wrote the book "The Committee of 300". While it has inspired many conspiratorial thoughts and ideas, it was unfortunately an un-sourced book. While Coleman made many authoritative claims in his work, he had no documented sources to back up any of his claims about the Rothchilds, the Beatles, The Monarchy, The "Black Nobility" etc. I am not dismissing his ideas, merely offering a bit of background to where this has come from, and how it was presented to the world. If you ever get the chance to read any of John Colemans books, you will find that he makes some pretty outrageous claims, while at the same time making some that could possibly be true.

It is very difficult to ascertain whether Coleman is acting in a disingenuous fashion to spread disinformation, or merely over exaggerating some things to make his information seem more exciting.

Here's a PDF with some more info on the "Black Nobility"



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