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Originally posted by ATH911
Like these?
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Originally posted by GoodOlDave
That said, I don't see how this doesn't simply flush your original arguments all over again.
My argument in this thread is Why Shanksville forest more fire damaged than crater & grass?
Can you give me a reasonable explanation for that one?
An investigator for the board, Chauncey Twine, said the airplane crashed at an 80-degree angle, clipping trees and landing amid rocks and boulders at 3:15. An explosion followed, sending flames higher than treetops, residents said.
''If the angle of descent was not as great,'' Mr. Twine said, ''the fire would have spread. By impacting at that angle, it was fairly contained.''
Originally posted by thedman
Let me explain - plane traveling at 580 mph impacts ground, fuel tanks
rupture, fuel travelling at 500+ mph will be projected FORWARD (refernce
Issac Newton and Laws of Momentum)
Fuel because of high speed will be aersolized in mist. Fuel mist cloud will
be ignited into fire ball which will singe objects in close proximity, including
trees.
Originally posted by mikelee
reply to post by GoodOlDave
Fake DNA
NY Times article, DNA can be faked
I think you're confused on what I'm asking,
Originally posted by Alfie1
If you approach everything in this world, as many truthers seem to do, that all is faked then you render your own existence meaningless. What solid point of reference do you have ?
Originally posted by thedman
You are the one confused
According to Wallace Miller, coroner of Somerset County PA, forward 1/3
of aircraft broke off on impact and ploughed into tree line
Some of the heaverier objects - jet engine, flight recorders were driven
into ground
Considerable amount of fuel would be projected forward by momentum
burning patch of woods
Like I said seen this same pattern at crash scene....
Originally posted by hooper
Well, to be accurate, Mr. Miller was simply repeating an account he had heard from the FBI. Either way, it doesn't sound like what he heard was a forensic account, just a general description.
Also, no, the "front" section of the plane does not contain fuel. That is contained in the wings, a fact that I am sure you aware of by now, but if you were not aware of this common knowledge then you need to read up about airplanes a little bit and understand how they are made and what they are intended to do.
Originally posted by ATH911
Originally posted by hooper
Well, to be accurate, Mr. Miller was simply repeating an account he had heard from the FBI. Either way, it doesn't sound like what he heard was a forensic account, just a general description.
Your point?
Also, no, the "front" section of the plane does not contain fuel. That is contained in the wings, a fact that I am sure you aware of by now, but if you were not aware of this common knowledge then you need to read up about airplanes a little bit and understand how they are made and what they are intended to do.
Um yeah, I know. I was just seeing if thedman knew!
Originally posted by thedman
On impact the impact the tanks ruptured the fuel would be projected forward -
Originally posted by ATH911
Originally posted by thedman
On impact the impact the tanks ruptured the fuel would be projected forward -
But how could it do that when the rear 2/3 of the plane, which would include the fuel tanks, buried deep underground? And even if some fuel landed above ground, why didn't it splash and burn the crater and grassy field more than the forest?
Originally posted by mikelee
NY Times article, DNA can be faked
Originally posted by ATH911
My argument in this thread is Why Shanksville forest more fire damaged than crater & grass?
Can you give me a reasonable explanation for that one?
Originally posted by ATH911
if a plane crashed and left that crater, why is there MORE fire damage that section of forest than the crater and grass surrounding the crater
Originally posted by hooper
So you think the plane augered into the ground in a whole and complete unit, intact and structurally coherent, huh?
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
if you want me to speculate, the investigators had to dig up all the bits of wreckage buried by the crash, so what you're seeing isn't a crater caused by the plane impact. You're seeing the fresh dirt churned up from the recovery process.