Originally posted by CaptGizmo
reply to post by ALLis0NE
Can you provide some info on your research showing what you stated. As to the fact that every crop circles around the world have been faked by using a
board and some rope.
First let me state that crop circles are nothing more than bent grass... there are 1000's of ways to bend grass.
You can use "stomping devices" such as wood planks, shoes with flat pieces of wood attached to the bottom, etc... anything that you can lay on grass
and step on is a usable device to make crop circles. Heck, you can make very thin lines in crops just by using your own feet, that is how they make
some small lines.
You can also use "rolling devices" that people just push or pull and it bends the grass etc.. there are MANY tools that can be used, not just wood
and rope. This is because the action of bending grass is primitive, and you would have to be very unintelligent to not understand how to bend
With that said...
HERE IS THE KEY TO IDENTIFYING MAN MADE CROP CIRCLES.. First you have to study man made crop circles so you know what to look for. I have witnessed
the creation of quite a few man made crop circles. Most all of them were created by wood planks and rope because it is actually fast and accurate. I
noticed that during and after the creation there was marks left behind by the wood planks. These are not really marks on the crops but more like
shadows created by the crops, created by the wood planks.
You see, most crop circle makers use stomping or rolling devices that are usually about 4 feet wide, maybe more or less depending on the design.
So when they have to stomp wide areas of crops larger than 4 feet, they can only do 4 feet at a time. Because of that, there is lines left in the
crops. Using a 4 foot device to do 16 foot wide areas leaves 4 rows with lines in the crops...
These lines are visible in every single crop
circle ever made.
I call them "tool marks" because they are created by the tool they use. In art they are sometimes called "streaks". You get them when you use a
thin drawing device to cover large areas. There are several techniques that are taught in art classes to avoid these streaks.
You show me any crop circle, I will show you these tool marks, lines, streaks, whatever you want to call them. An important thing to know is that
these tool marks are NOT easily visible when you are up close to them.
They are more easily seen from far away, usually the areal images. THAT is
why they usually go unnoticed by most researchers. But some just ignore it.
Here is a good example:
I tried to mark them in red:
The distance between any two red lines in the above image is the width of the device used to create the crop circle. In most cases, the width of the
device is not much wider than the average MAN. Just like in the image above.
These lines in red are created by the edges of the device used to create the crop circles, but I believe the most of the shadows are caused by the
layering that happens when you do one row first, then another row next to the first.
These lines are visible in every KNOWN man made crop circle, and can be found in pretty much every "unknown" one too. They are identical because
they are both made the same, and both made by the same species. HUMANS.
Finding these "tool marks" is really easy. And if (when) you find them, that means the crop circle is most likely man made, because they are
identical to man made ones.
Also, a good thing to understand is the importance of the rope. NOT the rope tied to the wood planks to help them lift the planks, but the very long
rope they use to measure and plot everything.
Obviously one of the first things you learn about art is how to draw a perfect
circle with a string.
Besides using a drafting compass
, a string is the best thing
to draw or mark a perfect circle. You just use it to pivot around a single point. THIS is why most crop circles, no matter how complex they look, are
usually based on "circles", hence the name "crop circles".
...but using the rope to draw circles is not the main role of the rope. It is mainly used as a rule
measure predetermined distances. This helps them create "perfect" crop circles at night with no visibility.
Yes, a simple rope is
what makes all these crop circles look so "perfect", and gives the creators the ability to work at night without seeing their own work.
I have spent many years as a professional graphic artist. I lot of my time was spent measuring machines and drafting them on the computer with CAD
software (and sometimes paper), and it was all to scale. What you learn from doing this is how to measure, and plot, almost ANYTHING, TO SCALE, by
only starting from a single position.
Once you locate and mark your single starting position, every single aspect of your drawing or design can be represented by numbers. The numbers are
the relative distances and angles between the starting point and the main features of the design. These numbers act like the sheet music of any song.
They are like the footsteps to a dance. You use these numbers in sequence to plot your design. Using this technique you can make any crop circle
"perfectly", and you don't even have to see what you are doing, just make sure you play the song right, or don't miss your steps to the dance.
Some of these crop circle makers practice their dance moves and memorize their songs before they go out and perform for the public.
That is why they can do it so fast.
That is why they can do it at night.
..and having a compass and rule (a string) is why they can do it nearly "perfectly".
Using a video of men making crop circles, I figured out that ONE man can stomp quite a large area of crops in a very small amount of time. I don't
have my numbers or video with me now, but I can tell you the numbers were based off the width of the device used to stomp the crops (about 4 feet),
multiplied by the distance of each step (about 2 feet), and the time it took to complete one step (about 1 second). That comes to about 8 sq. ft. a
second. Keeping that rhythm you can cover 480 sq. feet a minute, or 28800 sq. ft. an hour. That is for ONE PERSON.
So, TWO people could make a 57600 sq. ft. crop circle in one hour. That is more than one acre of crops. There is rarely ever a crop circle with more
than one acre of crops smashed.
A team of FIVE people could cover 144000 sq. ft. an hour...
I can't imagine what a team of 50+ people could do.... or maybe I can because it has been done before.
Originally posted by CaptGizmo
Plus the time frame needed to create some of the incredibly complex crop circles and their respective size? I may not know a tremendous amount of
scientific knowledge regarding the crop circle phenomena..but I have enough knowledge to know they are clearly not made with some rope and a piece of
I think you need to reevaluate your assessment.
[edit on 17-4-2010 by ALLis0NE]
[edit on 17-4-2010 by ALLis0NE]