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Originally posted by gambon
looking at the coordinates of the crash the nearest railline appers to be over 900m away from the crash site , why is everybody so sure it is a train?
Could these not be the sounds of the emergency response team vehicles perhaps? I dont think a russian diesel makes that noise tbh,more like an emergency siren to my ears?
look up the coordinates and see how far the nearest line is?
The footage shown on Polish TV was commented by newscasters as the noise being the Army base sirens sounding off, although the recording audio does make it seem as though it is a train. If you view more Youtube footage of the crash site you'll notice that it isn't a train but indeed a siren.
The Staged Mockup Plane Crash in Smolensk [Study Pack]
1) Diverting the plane would have caused the Polish president to be extremely late for the Katyn ceremony: False.
There was an airport with an instrument landing system at Vitebsk, Belarus only 66 miles from the Katyn Forest. The Katyn memorial service was largely ceremonial and only a few hundred people were reportedly at the site. The Polish contingent would have been the most significant group since this included the Polish president, and the press would have waited for them to show up.
2) The Polish president pressured the pilot to land against his will: Disputed.
This has been reported as fact even though everyone on the plane is dead and the Smolensk air traffic controller didn’t hear anything that would confirm this. Hopefully the black boxes will shed some light on this. An article  notes “In August 2008, Mr Kaczynski had pressed a pilot to land in Tbilisi, Georgia, even though conditions were dangerous during Russia’s short war with the country. After the pilot refused, Mr Kaczynski went into the cabin and later said: ‘If someone decides to become an officer they should not be cowardly.’ The pilot, who diverted to nearby Azerbaijan, was later awarded a medal for refusing to yield to the president. Andrzej Seremet, Poland’s chief prosecutor, told a news conference on Monday that, at this stage of the investigation, there was nothing to suggest pressure was put on the pilots. However, the Tu-154’s black boxes were still being analysed to see ‘if suggestions were made to the pilots’.” Judging from the earlier incident, the pilot would have stood to get a medal if he ignored pressure from Kaczynski and diverted the plane to another airport. Also President Kaczynski would have embarrassed himself and gotten bad press if he tried to bully another pilot.
3) The pilot made four or five approaches. Disputed.
One article  notes “The pilot told Mr Plyusnin (the Russian air controller at Smolensk) that he would make one approach to land before switching to an alternate destination if he did not succeed.” Another news source  has eyewitnesses describing the crash. None of them mention the plane making multiple attempts to land. Another article  reports “The air traffic controller at the Air Base said, the airplane attempted only one approach before radio contact was lost.”
4) Lech Walesa said the pilot was pressured into landing. False.
One source  notes “Lech Walesa, the former Polish President, said that Captain Protasiuk would have been expected to consult. However, pilots are trained to resist pressure to take wrong decisions.”
5) The Tu-154 was a flying coffin with a horrible safety record. False.
A list of crashes for the Tu-154 since 1994 by FoxNews , show only two previous crashes in Europe. All the other crashes were over Siberia or the the Third World, including two planes shot down and one plane blown up over Europe by Czechen terrorists. Another source  notes “On a note about the type of aircraft used, Paul Duffy, an expert on Russian aviation, stated… the hull-loss (crash) rate was normal for the number in service, the number of years it has been operated, and for the technology of the aircraft… 1015 Tu-154s have been built, 214 of which are still in service as of 14 December 2009.” The plane that carried President Kaczynski was only 20 years old and had undergone a major inspection and overhaul in December 2009.
There were no dead bodies found at the crash site, no ambulances, no doctors, no emergency center, many parts of the crashed plane are missing, there were no seats either, and the parts seemed to be corroded and covered by moss.
Obviously they've taken an old airplane from a scrap yard, cut it into pieces, transported the pieces to the crash site and created a little explosion there. Meanwhile the real airplane was diverted to a secondary runway, its passengers eliminated, and the media instructed to disseminate the usual bull#. It all smells like Shanksville.
Remember, no dead bodies were found at the Pentagon either on 9-11.
It seems that the polish elite refused to accept orders from the global government, so the Illuminati simply eliminated them. Just like that. Easy, isn't it and so efficient. That's why puppets such as Obama are so obedient - they know what will happen to them if they don't comply. The masters of illusion have struck again. Will you be deceived by them?
The old government wil be replaced by a new one, and of course, just by chance, their political line will be completely different, I'll bet. Now, in whose interest will these modified politics be? That's were the responsible people have to be looked for. Hey, after all perhaps the Illuminati are innocent this time.
I'm so fed up with these silly little games being played on this poor planet. When will humans finally mature and reach a minimal level of wisdom and insight? It seems humanity will have to learn this the hard way.