Some have said it is cyclic nature that history repeats itself. I don't think it is natural; I think it is contrived. But for what purpose? Is this planet really a cosmic egg and we are here to develop our true character?

Or has this planet been taken over by a evil forces and we must confront it and stop it or others will be doomed to repeat the sorrows of war, hatred and the myriad of divisions the controlling powers of this world produces?

Why does the snake eat it's tail? Does history always begin from the beginning again and again?

If this is the planned scenerio, there will be no more political or religious dissent. It will be the most authoritian rule you could ever imagine. And once again, the illusion of freedom will exist as the paradox it has always been: choice is really just an ultimatum. There are two roads before you, life and death. Choose correctly. You have the freedom to choose obedience or non-compliance.



There have been whispers of new Edens that are to spring up soon in the future. This is being carried out through programs between religion and governments. It's not clandestine. You can find the information if you search for it. Certain chosen people will be allowed to get things set up in the new Paradise Gardens. But when the new generation comes along....plans will change. It only takes one generation to re-create history.

I think the new cookie in the oven is a return to Genesis.

And once you have a new generation behind the walls, living an agriculture centered life, the next generation will have no clue of the technology that was developed in our lifetime. That way, the elites will be back to having all their magic powers to lord over them again. Just like it was in the beginning.

(And people think it was aliens or angels. Maybe not. Perhaps past civilizations have achieved these same advances in the past and wiped people out when population became inconvenient or grumbled too loud, or discovered they had been duped. Perhaps this has always been cyclic throughout existence.)

Consider that the new generation living in these atom-compounds have no knowledge of what a hologram is? They only need to know how to grow cabbage and play with animals. Since the elite have reserved the technology for themselves...(and camera systems worldwide are in place now..) poof! Hologram. Angels now appear. How mystical. How frightening for the uninitiated. And they know everything you have been up to...because of the hidden camera systems that the new ones will know nothing about!!! And thus, it all starts over again. The elites will still be in power and using their high tech on the new dumbed down farmer humans.

Want to know what's really scary? It's what they will be doing between now and then to erase the people and communities and turn it rapidly back to forrest with fast acting microbes.






If civilization repeats itself by starting again at Genesis, could this now explain some of the cryptic messages from the myths?

..."the power and order of Argos the city are embodied in Argos the neatherd, lord of the herd and lord of the land, whose name itself is the name of the land."

The epithet Panoptes, reflecting his mythic role, set by Hera as a very effective watchman of Io, was described in a fragment of a lost poem Aigimios, attributed to Hesiod[3]

"And set a watcher upon her, great and strong Argos, who with four eyes looks every way. And the goddess stirred in him unwearying strength: sleep never fell upon his eyes; but he kept sure watch always."

and also from wiki:

In the second century CE Pausanias noted at Argos, in the temple of Zeus Larissaios, an archaic image of Zeus with a third eye in the center of his forehead, allegedly Priam's Zeus Herkeios purloined from Troy.[4] According to Ovid, to commemorate her faithful watchman, Hera had the hundred eyes of Argus preserved forever, in a peacock's tail.

Is it any wonder that our cameras and softwear products carry the name Argus/Argos? All of this has been in plain sight! Flaunted in front of us!

Could the eye in the pyramid represent Argus, the Watcher?

Intresting but I have to ask who would want to be bored out of there minds by watching humans for long periods of time, with these cameras I mean if the internet is more entertaining then these supposed watchtower eyes what would be the point would you want to watch bob cut the grass eat, take a #, and piss then stare at him for 10 hours as he watches tv all day. No these elite and government does not work like that, they say they will watch everybody to make you waste effort and energy. It's like disciplining   little kids by propagand, be good or santa wont give you presents, be good the government is watcing you. If they actually try to watch everybodys daily lifes, I'll name that documantry now 'The boringest show on earth.' And the snake that eats it's own tail is supposed to represent the meaning of life, the wisdom, the circle of all things, karma is a biatch, and the cutting in to the living, how sometimes life eats itself to take itself to higher places, the nature of the beast.

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
....these supposed watchtower eyes what would be the point would you want to watch bob cut the grass eat, .

Watchtower eyes? Interesting choice of words. Now you can even see where some of these religions get their names. And of course the secret societies have "wardens".

I don't imagine these atom-groups would be watched all the time. The elites will be enjoying their ski trips, mostly. All will be quiet. No more uproars from the people. The masses will once again be subdued and will do their bidding.

It may have started out as a grand project when this planet was first colonized, but somewhere along the line these elites began to use groups of people as their personal pawns in fighting among themselves.

Humans believe lots of things that dont exist, the eye on the top of the pyramid represents nothing it does not look at this world only when it must. The one eyed man in the world of the blind is not in heaven, but in a sort of hell. If you somehow end up in the world of the blind would you want to stay there. Lets see what would it be like if you could see in the world of the blind, since they are blind they dont know what they look like or what the world looks like they are living in there own shint and mess literally monkeys throwing feces around. Hmm would you like to be king of them a throne of mud on a people who roll around in the mud and bump into everything because they cant see. No the pyramid represents the progress to a higher world wich the one eye sees and everybody alse are the blind. The people and the elite alike both are cogs in the machine, if it breaks no mater wich part it is it will be replaced the elite are mearly the most easily controled of the sheep. Thats why they are elites.

We also have the myth of the one-eyed giant Cyclops . And the beehive tomb of Atreus was reputed to have been built by the Cyclops. This image has been repeated throughtout history right into modern day. It's significance is unmistakeable. What have the ancients been trying to tell us?

Did they consciously perceive that languages would always be transient while imagery would be more enduring and could transcend language barriers?

Many different cultures have similar myths and imagery.

Could there be a connection between the "Cyclic" events, the myth of Cyclops, and the pyramid stonework of the beehive tomb?





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Why do you care what a bunch of people dead for thousands of years did or didnot do. Yes languages usually die with the civilisation that created it. and new ones are made. And yes pictures say more then words, and monuments like the pyramids say more then the hieroglyphs. It's a form of comunicating it says, here we were our lifes are in these stones. The ancient greeks were great shiet talkers and they considered the rest of the nations of the world as one eyed fools, thill the romans came that is, People just do things then make up stories after the fact, I nevear heard of no cyclops built pyramids. I see some mysteries in the ancient world but mostly its just statues laying in the mud.

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
Why do you care what a bunch of people dead for thousands of years did or didnot do.

Because I believe that in order to know the future, we must look to the past. There are messages there. And we need to learn from the mistakes of history in order that we do not repeat them.

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
People just do things then make up stories after the fact, I nevear heard of no cyclops built pyramids.

If you care to educate yourself on that subject, I have already provided the lead for you. Research the tomb of Atreus. Also, this era may be the earliest mention of what became the legend of the lamb and the golden fleece stories which led into modern day symbolism and metaphors of "the lamb". (But that's another story!)

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Ok I looked a little on these greek pyramids and tombs, and the only thing I can say is they were terrorfied  of being forgotten, In those times they were more primal in there emotions and believe. Now a days we as a society are more comfortable  the tech has reached a new hight, compared to then. And this was recorded by plato from a greek in times before plato by the name of solon who visited the ancient egyptians.

Whereas just when you and other nations are beginning to be provided with letters and the other requisites of civilized life, after the usual interval, the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and so you have to begin all over again like children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times, either among us or among yourselves. As for those genealogies of yours which you just now recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children. -- Timaeus§23

So the patern is destruction

So the question is how will we as a society fare better when it happens again. Lets say a meteor wiped all but a small percentage of humans all tech cellphones and computers and dams and power plants that generate electricity will be gone or in ruins. We would litterarly have to start all over. The survivors will have to relay on mother nature to survive, back to small groups hunter/gatherer no time for enything but survival within a couple of genarations the world of the past will become strange history then a couple more generations it will become legend then eventually myth. The funny thing is a big stone structure like a pyramid will outlast all our other buildings and especially our ethereal tech like cellphones and tv's and internet wich you would need a complex memetic system to understand, not to mention all that stuff will be dust, scrap, junk without the big ordered processes that supported everything. All the big things we are so proud of wont last the test of time but a bunch of stone pyramids wil

Maibe we should start building pyramids to, just incase, store all the data in them on something that will last thousands of years. They dont even have to be built from stone though if they are it would still last longer then metals that corrode and brake easyer then a couple of tons of a stone block. Literaly a man made mountain if tech like nanotech can progress enough to be stable we can make blocks out of a substance that lasts for a really long time like carbon/diamond and build out of that. Emagine if anything happens and everything had to start all over, there would be these huge giant pyramids that shine like diamonds, that would really get peoples attention and remind them that things were once way different. It make a good story anyways.

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
... the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and so you have to begin all over again like children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times,...

In the story of Adam and Eve, the consequence of Knowledge was death. Was it simply knowledge itself, or was it acting on the acquired knowledge of evil? Was there a justified disobedience?

In your quote above, it also reflects that only the child-like and uneducated will remain to start over.

So, does it mean that those who have knowledge of having seen behind the curtain must be silenced in order for this god to keep his grip on the others who are still asleep?

Or does it mean that the techno-crats who are fouling the world with noise and pollution and suppression of peoples will meet their demise? Does it mean those who are educated to the crafty ways will be the ones to perish?





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Originally posted by Alethea

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
... the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and so you have to begin all over again like children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times,...

This quote you quoted me on kind of reminds me of another post in the Morgellons Disease: You need to hear about this! thread were Northwarden gives a link on page 9 to pestilence from the sky that is eerily familiar to the translation that the ancient egyptian said. Anyways it could be that this world has come and gone before even that in our past the human race could of been on this level of tech or more advanced and something wiped it out and started all over. Knowledge is part of live it no more means death then ignorance. Knowledge transforms you, so can say that it equals death in a way Knowledge moves beyond the what you see and observe.

Knowledge leaves your old self behind, so yes you will die in the eyes of thouse that dont have that Knowledge. But ignorance is not only bliss it's the only stable platform that you can exist, in the curent state that you are Knowledge is the climb up a mountain ignorance is the resting from that climb. A spot were you can hang your head and not think to much. I'm not sure or really care that much but there seems to be some sort of force I guess that comes along once in a while and gets us to move on when we stay in one place to long and sometimes it's not a gental push. Knowledge seems to be building up to something. If there is some force or god or whatever behind this world it sees everyone equally, so to such a thing what would it care what humans call themselves elite or pesant. We are all equally inferior before its eyes. If such a thing exists that is.

All storys are grounded in truth or point of view, I dont know the past is opinions and the most believeable opinions become history.

I think it would be a rather simple matter to return the landscape of earth back to a wilderness aka "paradise".

It would start with a bit of social upheaval---reshuffling land rights, rezoning areas, local governments being given "initiatives" for following the sustainability movement.

Once the new zoning template is in place, then it's just a matter of employing special enzymes and microbes for the next phase: biodegradation and bioremediation to establish a new eco system.

Specialized microbes are used to "eat" oil and petroleum, dissolve concrete and steel, and could remove all the evidence of any habitation within a few decades. It could appear as though nothing had ever existed there and the earth will be a "new" planet all over again.

And so once again, another civilization could disappear without a trace.

Those microbes exist alwredy if people want they can go that route, what I dont understand is why do people care, I mean sure any real change sucks. But even if this planet is wiped clean over and over I guess that alright if thats what people want, even if it's been done gazillions of times. I still dont get why do they care. I quess it's a sort of tiredness with the curent world/self change manifests itself as distruction. How do you create a new world by believing things of the past, since the past is nothing but fairytales of children, that means the present is a fairytale it's only real for those that believe in it. Everything works just bearly, as long as you dont test that reality to far. That has been the only true rule of all societies/cultures everything alse is decorum. Pick you poison is the rule of the masses, some are just bored of poison some took all the poison offered to them and drank all of it thill they developed a immunity to poison. Some are bored with the reality of the old reality.

Could it be that, ever so many thousand years, the future is a continual return to the past? Are lands and civilizations purposely wiped out when people come to the point of "knowing too much"? Are the obedient ones cherry picked and isolated, "harvested" and hidden away, as seeds for the new crop, before this happens?


What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

Is there anything of which one can say,
"Look! This is something new"?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.

There is no remembrance of men of old,
and even those who are yet to come
will not be remembered
by those who follow.

(Ecclesiastes 1:9-11)

It's the way of life things die new things are born, there are new things all the time sure some things are the same like war, strife and peace and love. The themes of life are the same at the heart of things they rarely change, they just wear new clothes, in a infinite universe all things could of happened before but it's rarely the exact same thing. The men of today have very little clue to the exact way the men of the past were, the kids of the future will look at the world of the past and think that we were all a bunch of idiot's, while the present changes to make them look like fools to future generations.

Tell me how would it be possible to advance and become better without the past being forgotten, misinterpreted, and the men of the past being completely misunderstood. If the past is better or the same as the present how will things be different. If in the future generation they look at this generation and say we were smarter then they are, what does that say,... It says things got worser for them, that they have to look up to the past as better, it also means we failed the future generation if they understand us completely. To ascend and evolve beyond the present means all that you know today will be useless in the future, it means that we have succeed so much in our generation that the past generation will look at the past and the first thing they see is we were a bunch of primitive people. If they consider us as monkeys with tools we would of succeed beyond our wildest dreams with our children.

So yes the peoples of the past were wiped out by there unknown there mortality and stupidity and cataclysmic events, and I consider a pissed of god or pissed of godlike species as a cataclysm, if they existed that is. Or maibe the people of the past were so stupid and primitive that they died out and few survived. Maiby they failed what they were trying to do, or maibe they succeed. Aither way the past can never be fully known you can deduce it pretty accurately but you cant know it as it actually was. But if you want you can judge it by many things that are in the present. Or if you had a time machine you could go into the past, but I wouldn't advise living there from what I heard getting an axe in your head was a more comon event back then.

'No need to use an axe to remove a fly from the forehead of a friend'. Confucius.
Maiby this line from Confucius is not abouth some great wisdom, but I guess it happened more often in the past, it was great wisdom then. Now its something everybody knows.
There are many things that you can deduce from history, but you can't know it exactly as it was.