When George W Bush was President, Israel presented him with a 'scroll' addressed to/announcing him as the Chief Prince of Magog


the Islamists we westerners call radical muslims because they refer to America as the Great Satan... are more correct than they imagine


welcome to the real world, the future Beasts homeland & empire...

there will be scoffers, and many will be deceived in those days,
kinda makes sense doesn't it

A little more info on Lincoln for whoever cares to read (if OP wants to merg it in thats fine i'll post the link at the bottom.) the site also has a couple pictures I never seen before.

I also read a few articles and maybe saw it in a movie.
But if I remember correctly we were losing the war, he abolished slavery so we could recruit the African Americans into the war. Not for the reasons they claim. but heres the info


Abraham Lincoln
Sixteenth President 1861-1865
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During the Civil War, telegraph wires were strung to follow the action on the battlefield. But there was no telegraph office in the White House, so Lincoln went across the street to the War Department to get the news.

Fast Fact: Abhorring war, Abraham Lincoln accepted War as the only means to save the Union.

Biography: The government will not assail you.... You have no oath registered in Heaven to destroy the government, while I shall have the most solemn one to preserve, protect and defend it."

Lincoln thought secession illegal, and was willing to use force to defend Federal law and the Union. When Confederate batteries fired on Fort Sumter and forced its surrender, he called on the states for 75,000 volunteers. Four more slave states joined the Confederacy but four remained within the Union. The Civil War had begun.

The son of a Kentucky frontiersman, Lincoln had to struggle for a living and for learning. Five months before receiving his party's nomination for President, he sketched his life:

"I was born Feb. 12, 1809, in Hardin County, Kentucky. My parents were both born in Virginia, of undistinguished families--second families, perhaps I should say. My mother, who died in my tenth year, was of a family of the name of Hanks.... My father ... removed from Kentucky to ... Indiana, in my eighth year.... It was a wild region, with many bears and other wild animals still in the woods. There I grew up.... Of course when I came of age I did not know much. Still somehow, I could read, write, and cipher ... but that was all."

Lincoln made extraordinary efforts to attain knowledge while working on a farm, splitting rails for fences, and keeping store at New Salem, Illinois. He was a captain in the Black Hawk War, spent eight years in the Illinois legislature, and rode the circuit of courts for many years. His law partner said of him, "His ambition was a little engine that knew no rest."

He married Mary Todd, and they had four boys, only one of whom lived to maturity.

In 1858 Lincoln ran against Stephen A. Douglas for Senator. He lost the election, but in debating with Douglas he gained a national reputation that won him the Republican nomination for President in 1860.

As President, he built the Republican Party into a strong national organization. Further, he rallied most of the northern Democrats to the Union cause.

On January 1, 1863, he issued the Emancipation Proclamation that declared forever free those slaves within the Confederacy.
Lincoln never let the world forget that the Civil War involved an even larger issue. This he stated most movingly in dedicating the military cemetery at Gettysburg: "that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain--that this nation,under God, shall have a new birth of freedom--and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Lincoln won re-election in 1864, as Union military triumphs heralded an end to the war. In his planning for peace, the President was flexible and generous, encouraging Southerners to lay down their arms and join speedily in reunion.

The spirit that guided him was clearly that of his Second Inaugural Address, now inscribed on one wall of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D. C.:

"With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds....

Something that has been drawing my attention lately is the templar order.

Being they were supposedly ordained into action by the Catholic Church and also supposedly the first to discover America after locating New Foundland..... yet were disbanded (apparently)... could it be they actually ended up in America to establish the foundations of what is being talked about......and ensure Rome expanded?

I'm going off at a tangent so please don't let this take away from the actual thread direction.

Originally posted by AlwaysQuestion
Something that has been drawing my attention lately is the templar order.

Being they were supposedly ordained into action by the Catholic Church and also supposedly the first to discover America after locating New Foundland..... yet were disbanded (apparently)... could it be they actually ended up in America to establish the foundations of what is being talked about......and ensure Rome expanded?

I'm going off at a tangent so please don't let this take away from the actual thread direction.

The Templar Knights were originally dubbed the Poor Knights of Christ, by the Prince Abbot of the Abbey that sits atop the recessed hill of the tiny Roman principality of Seborga.

In exchange for all their worldly possessions, they earned this distinction, and the 7 European Knights who stopped there to pray on their War to the Crusades were joined then by one of the Abbey’s monks after the agreement and dubbing occurred.

Later their battlefield exploits would win them great fame and prestige and the attention of the Pope who redubbed them the Templar Knights after awarding them the privilege of being able to set up their encampment in Jerusalem on the Temple Mount.

They were granted extraordinary, powers, and privileges, and autonomy by the Pope. They could travel through any land immune from it’s laws and it’s rulers, and in fact were allowed to make life and death judgment over anyone who offended or betrayed them, in any land they travelled through and too.

Amongst other things, they set up the first International Banking system, to help poor pilgrims on their way to the Holy Land who were often robbed by bandits along the journey, the developed a system, where you could deposit your money and valuables with a local Templar office, where a Templar clerk would issue you a note, for like kind minus a commission, redeemable from the Templar Knights in Jerusalem.

In addition they also offered to manage European Noble’s estates for them, while they were off fighting in the Crusades, for a fee they would tend to the land and the peasants and conduct their business for them, if the noble died in battle then their estate would go to the Templar Order.

At it’s height the Templar Organization had over a quarter of a million members spread throughout Europe, with only one out of seven actually being knights and men at arms. All the rest were Clerks and Scribes, and they were in fact the first International Corporation, and the first International Bank.

While some contend the charges of heresy leveled at their Grand Masters were trumped up by the King of France who wanted to renege on a large loan the Templar Order had made to him, others contend that the Templar Knights who thoroughly excavated Solomon’s Temple they were camped on top of, had found rituals and rites, of the true Hebrew Religion and were practicing mysticism and witch craft with them.

Most Freemasons agree that the surviving Knights Templar sought refuge in Scotland and founded the Scottish Rite Freemasonry movement, that some contend the highest level of knowledge that can be obtained through that organization are those rituals and rites the Templar Knights discovered through their expedition.

In fact in Colonial America and right on up to today there was and is a struggle between Masons and Rosicrucian practitioners of Esoteric Knowledge who were coordinated originally in America by Sir Francis Bacon, promoting his New Atlantis concepts, and true Christians who want a Christian society, with a large number of us simply caught in the middle as the synergy of those two competing sides vying for power, manifests itself into the reality on the ground we know today.

A reality some would say Rome and London has always controlled in one way or another, by financing and aiding both sides, looking for an outcome in between the two competing notions.

One thing important to note, that has powerful and wealthy as the Templar Organization is, that it’s members took vows of poverty and often chastity too, and that the great wealth they generated did in fact go to Rome.

The real Golden Rule is he who has the Gold gets to make the Rules, and Rome and the Vatican is the richest entity on earth, when it comes to that physical wealth.

to the OP: an interesting note a friend of mine told me that at first I didn't understand. At the time we were discussing how unconstitutional the healthcare bill was, and how if Pelosi decided to have the president sign the bill using the "slaugther rule" it would be considered treason yadda yadda.

Anyway, wegot to talking about how our rights were being taken away, and he mentioned that "The only right you have, is that which the police GIVE you... which is the right to be silent" he repeated this probably 3 times, I'm guessing he was trying to simply tell me that, no matter whether I committed a crime or not, that was the ONLY "right" I had, and the rest as enumerated in the constitution don't count for squat.

Your threads are always a pleasure. Great amount of research. THis is one of those that needs to be top hit, front page, whatever you call it. I bet on the tube you'll see a few of those ssssmiling massssters on there.

Great thread. TPTB are dark and therefore remain in the darkness even within plain site. They are terrified of this planet raising it's vibration into a higher density and they realize there is a timetable in which to keep it dark and enslaved. They can not exist within that vibration. That is why we are blasted with negativity and distracted via entertainment, fear, laws, etc. Their tools of fear and control are governments, religion and medical. There are always groups or people who want us to give away our power to them for the purpose of controlling or manipulating us and denying experiences that are not sanctioned by the polarities. They exist to build walls and boundaries around you to keep you enslaved with invisible chains. Until you can break free of these so-called authority figures/groups, you are still participating in their game. We don't need these groups/people as we are whole within ourselves but have forgotten this. Remember who you are beyond your body and raise your vibration. Make them ill with your love.

Originally posted by Hitemhard
to the OP: an interesting note a friend of mine told me that at first I didn't understand. At the time we were discussing how unconstitutional the healthcare bill was, and how if Pelosi decided to have the president sign the bill using the "slaugther rule" it would be considered treason yadda yadda.

Anyway, wegot to talking about how our rights were being taken away, and he mentioned that "The only right you have, is that which the police GIVE you... which is the right to be silent" he repeated this probably 3 times, I'm guessing he was trying to simply tell me that, no matter whether I committed a crime or not, that was the ONLY "right" I had, and the rest as enumerated in the constitution don't count for squat.

What Congress and the Government did quite slyly back in 1861, was to make us all Corporate Citizens, entities of the Corporate State.

The United States is a corporation, so is the District of Columbia, so are all the individual States. This is something that's easy to look up, and most of the Government, the States, and the alphabet Agencies like the CIA and FBI and FDA and DEA are all incorporated in the State of Deleware that has the most favorable secrecy laws in the nation for corporations. How some of them are incorporated as not-for profit religious corporations, and others are registered as for-profit corporations are a real eye opener, and other clear sign of the Vatican's and Rome's influence.

Yet because we were all made property of the corporations, we can be regulated as part of Interstate Commerce, Congress can pass any law regarding Interstate Commerce!

It's how they get around the constitution. Your Civil Rights, are part of the Civil Code, which is Contract Law, they are simply priveleges extended to you and not inalienable rights.

The only entity that can grant you inalienable rights is you!

As our own goverment has proven they will constantly try to take away our inalienable rights, and that's something that the Founders stated clearly we as individuals would have to be on guard for.

The Civil Codes are contracts, a series of Contracts that start out when you are born, and your parents sign your Birth Certificate officially making you property of the State you were born in, your social security number and card is a contract, your driver's license is a contract, your voters registration card is a contract, your selective service agreement is a contract, anything you are asked to sign, to make it valid is a contract, and what the government does, is trick the people into these contracts through non-discloure of what they mean.

The law itself has always, allowed for trickery to be a mechanism, in other words if a person can be tricked, and agree into something in that fashion, legally it's just as valid as if you had been explained everything honestly and had consented still.

We are all part of the Commerce System and that's how we are regulated and why Nancy Pelosi sneered at people saying the Health Care Bill was unconstitutional, is as per usual, it's just another measure to regulate Interstate Commerce which is the one thing Congress was granted unlimited power to do under the Constitution.

They just simply made the people a function and part of Commerce with the 14th Amendment, but the harsh reality remains that the only Commerce that has to do with just people, is something called Slavery!

Thanks for posting, and taking the time to read the thread.