Tax Day April 15, 2010 the London Banker’s Celebration of the Anniversary of Lincoln’s Death, page 18
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reply posted on 21-4-2010 @ 04:27 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by whipnet



Glad you enjoyed it, and in truth a surprising number of people, have also wondered about these things at various points too.

Lots of evidence and food for thought, and very thought provoking.

Thanks for posting.


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 03:57 PM by PhyberDragon
reply to post by daddio



It is common practice to write the bulk of words withoutvowels. Reminds me of the old traditions before vowels were used at all. As for symbols in place of letters, I can't guarantee that the code used in my books were/ are the same used in yours or others.


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 04:45 PM by PhyberDragon
reply to post by Wotan



It has pleased the Most High to diffuse the spirit of union and concord among the Princes, whose divisions had spread troubles in the four parts of the world, and to inspire them with the inclination to cause the comforts of peace to succeed to the misfortunes of a long and bloody war, which having arisen between England and France during the reign of the Most Serene and Most Potent Prince, George the Second, by the grace of God, King of Great Britain, of glorious memory, continued under the reign of the Most Serene and Most Potent Prince, George the Third, his successor, and, in its progress, communicated itself to Spain and Portugal: Consequently, the Most Serene and Most Potent Prince, George the Third, by the grace of God, King of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Duke of Brunswick and Lunenbourg, Arch Treasurer and Elector of the Holy Roman Empire; the Most Serene and Most Potent Prince, Lewis the Fifteenth, by the grace of God, Most Christian King; and the Most Serene and Most Potent Prince, Charles the Third, by the grace of God, King of Spain and of the Indies, after having laid the foundations of peace in the preliminaries signed at Fontainebleau the third of November last; and the Most Serene and Most Potent Prince, Don Joseph the First, by the grace of God, King of Portugal and of the Algarves, after having acceded thereto, determined to compleat, without delay, this great and important work. For this purpose, the high contracting parties have named and appointed their respective Ambassadors Extraordinary and Ministers Plenipotentiary, viz. his Sacred Majesty the King of Great Britain, the Most Illustrious and Most Excellent Lord, John Duke and Earl of Bedford, Marquis of Tavistock, c. his Minister of State, Lieutenant General of his Armies, Keeper of his Privy Seal, Knight of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, and his Ambassador Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to his Most Christian Majesty; his Sacred Majesty the Most Christian King, the Most Illustrious and Most Excellent Lord, Csar Gabriel de Choiseul, Duke of Praslin, Peer of France, Knight of his Orders, Lieutenant General of his Armies and of the province of Britanny, Counsellor of all his Counsils, and Minister and Secretary of State, and of his Commands and Finances: his Sacred Majesty the Catholick King, the

Most Illustrious and Most Excellent Lord, Don Jerome Grimaldi, Marquis de Grimaldi, Knight of the Most Christian King's Orders, Gentleman of his Catholick Majesty's Bedchamber in Employment, and his Ambassador Extraordinary to his Most Christian Majesty; his Sacred Majesty the Most Faithful King, the Most Illustrious and Most Excellent Lord, Martin de Mello and Castro, Knight professed of the Order of Christ, of his Most Faithful Majesty's Council, and his Ambassador and Minister Plenipotentiary to his Most Christian Majesty.

Who, after having duly communicated to each other their full powers, in good form, copies whereof are transcribed at the end of the present treaty of peace
avalon.law.yale.edu...

Just thought it ought to be included since it is being debated.



reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 04:52 PM by PhyberDragon
reply to post by daddio



Having been a Catholic and still being registered as one (among other things) I believe the answer to that question lies in Peter being the rock of the church. He is believed to be resting in the cemetary in the catacoumbes of the burial grounds upon which the church was built. Believe in polterguiests? lol, yes, it is built onb sacred ground-- a blasphemy to the dead if you ask me.


reply posted on 30-4-2010 @ 01:01 PM by poet1b
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler



In the treaty of Paris, King George's partial list of titles is stated as,

It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America


The Prince title confers him as the descendant of a previous King, his father's title was Prince of Wales. When Britain defeated the Spanish, the Roman Catholic Church lost a great deal of its power, and Britain ascended to its empirical state. That the Catholic Church would confer upon him the title of "arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire" is simply the Catholic Church acknowledging his rank and power. Most likely the Catholic church was forced to give him this title and power, as at the time, the British Empire was the most powerful military force on the planet, if for no other reason than they completely and overwhelmingly dominated the seas.

As far as your claims about the U.S. constitution, and your continual misrepresentation of the intention of Southern slavers, they are completely without merit. The U.S. government agreed to pay no money for the land that the citizens of the U.S. occupied. You have yet to provide any proof of this.

The Treaty of Paris was in fact a very well negotiated treaty, and the only thing the crown got was a bunch of fluttery at the top, while the rest of the treaty played completely into the hands of the newly independent Colony.

The U.S. constitution created on the ideas put forth by Jonathan Locke is possibly one of the best legal documents created in history.


reply posted on 6-8-2010 @ 12:30 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by tankthinker



By the way the Treaty of Paris is proof of it, as it sets rights for Creditors and Land Owners and actually instructs that a Constitution has to be written to guarantee those rights.

What the Treaty of Paris does not do is set a precise price on what those landowners and creditors were owed in part because it simply required the existing contracts to be upheld and paid.

The Kings of England, the Netherlands, and Spain, France and the Vatican owned most of the Thirtheen Colonies and various Corporations and people had bought some of those from them.

A wide range of financial institutions and others had loans outstanding against those and invested in business ventures through those.

The Treaty of Paris clearly stipulates those entities must be paid, and those entities can not be persecuted, imprisoned or defrauded as a means to avoid payment.

I never respond to Poet1B because I have had him on ignore practically the entire length of my ATS Membership, because of his extreme zionist politcal views. Thanks.





[edit on 6/8/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]


reply posted on 28-12-2010 @ 12:49 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Obinhi



No in reality you missed something in the Treaty of Paris, that his Britanic Majesty a. is only an 'entity' that b. serves by the Grace of God (the Pope) in that capacity, and that c. the use of that sole title just relinguishes his claims in regards to the office of his Britanic Majesty, however his other titles prince, prince elector, and arch-treasurer of Rome and prince-elector and arch-treasurer of the United States are entirely seperate offices than that of 'his Britanic Majesty'.

It's like the State of Florida saying well we aren't going to charge you for possession of Crack Cocaine, but then the DEA steps in and says but we will!

End result you are still screwed.

So in reality all he did was relinquish one offices rights to the United States, while retaining other more important offices rights principly prince elector, and arch-treasurer of the United States.

When you realize that each one of the Kings many titles have a specific bearing and appointment to a specific office and not all of those were Britanic but many of them were Roman then what you realize is that Rome did not relinguish it's rights, and offices involved.

Thanks for posting.



reply posted on 28-12-2010 @ 02:29 PM by Obinhi
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler



No your right, I'm feeling like a dickhead now. Sorry about that I was reading it and working at the same time and missed that bit in your post. So I retract my statement above and in this case it seems that my quote is out of context. I'll leave it so others can see my mistake.


reply posted on 28-12-2010 @ 03:13 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by Obinhi
reply to
post by ProtoplasmicTraveler



No your right, I'm feeling like a dickhead now. Sorry about that I was reading it and working at the same time and missed that bit in your post. So I retract my statement above and in this case it seems that my quote is out of context. I'll leave it so others can see my mistake.


Hey that's all right. You asked a valid question about a document that is purposefully designed to be confusing and misleading for the average person who has been taught to key in only certain things.

Frankly it's all very disturbing and I think it’s natural for most people's initial reaction to be "Say it ain't so Joe".

When my research led me to the conclusion that was quite inescapable that the Roman Empire was still in business and still governing the world including the United States I couldn’t even sleep for two days.

After all I was faced with having to discard almost everything that I thought was reality, and begin to come to terms with a new one.

The good news is the world still turns pretty much the same, you just now better understand who benefits the most and most often because it turns that way.

Thanks for posting.
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