reply to post by Zombie II
1. I can understand Rome's control in large and "developed" countries, with economies large enough to warrant tampering with their currencies,
collecting taxes, etc. What happens with other smaller or less influential countries? Are they "controlled" by other means or simply loose cannons?
I am hard pressed to believe there is much of Rome's order in place in Nicaragua, for instance. Or let's say if you live in Namibia, I don't get
the feeling there is much in the way of controlling you from doing as you please, along the lines of 400,000 laws restricting your free will.
First Rome has the world broken down into a few different systems for governance of an area.
1. Principalities are nations/areas ruled by Roman Princes, Monaco and Seborga are such examples.
2. Monarchies are Kingdoms run my monarchs who serve by the grace of the Pope.
3. Republics are patterned off the Roman Republic, and contractually tied to Rome, as franchises.
4. States are estates, wholly owned by a Roman patrician.
5. Theocracies use ecclesiastical rule, patterned off the Roman Bible and build upon it.
It doesn’t matter which style of government these 5 different systems provide because ultimately they are contractually bound to Rome, pay taxes to
Rome, and defer to Rome when it comes to events that lead to Wars, exterminations and migrations.
If you read the 100 plus page report published by the United Nations on the World Wide Economic Crisis, available on the United Nation’s Web Site,
they don’t even hide the fact that many African nations are owned in whole or in part by Western interests, and sole proprietors.
As far as real freedom goes, most of us are only as free as the money in our pockets allows us to be. Without money you can’t travel, travel and
find time to protest, buy weapons, or supplies to rebel and other such things.
A lot of our 600,000 laws are designed to curb and limit the freedom that money can buy you. In poor undeveloped or under developed nations, where
people are so poor they basically just sit around and starve, waiting for aide groups to come and feed them, for lack of real economic opportunity,
you don’t need to do much to legislate the behavior of someone too weak to brush the flies from their face or to stand upright. Total poverty
substitutes for the lack of restrictive and debilitating laws.
That is why, now more than ever, Americans need to understand the world wide system, as we are rapidly being impoverished too!
2. Who or what runs this organization? I ask that because the competence required sounds elevated. I can picture such groups may exist in the UK or
Italy, the US, or whatever, but how about other countries a bit off the radar? I doubt the Kirchner's in Argentina are "in the loop" and answering
Right now the real unifying source of central power are the Reserve Banks and the International Monetary Fund, and to a lesser but still great extent
the United Nations.
The United Nations more or less exists as a central location where nations can be dictated too through the IMF and Reserve Banks.
The only nations who are technically outside of Rome’s Control are those that don’t have Central Reserve Banks owned by the International Money
Cartel, and aren’t a party to the IMF agreements.
Every other nation that is, can be dictated to and manipulated by using credit, and debt as leverage. The U.S. for instance is 11 Trillion in debt,
and much of what we have won in Iraq in the way of Oil and Afghanistan in the way of Copper has been granted to China, who has for the most part lent
the U.S. the money to finance the War and much of the rest of our government. Yet the Chinese Reserve Bank is a Rothschild Bank, foreign controlled,
and as a nation our future lines of credit which we desperately need, are dependent upon what we militarily are able to do for other nations in
Ultimately who controls this at the top, are the principle owners of these reserve banks, and their benefactors. All of this is wealth that was
amassed by Roman patricians, and Monarchs throughout Europe then later, and leveraged into the Modern Banking system.
We know some of the public names that put a front on this, but we don’t really know the well guarded names who stand behind the scenes.
Some people believe there is a ruling council of eight people at the very top of the pyramid who decide most of these things, which because that could
result in a 4/4 tie, there is obviously a Caesar above them who can break that tie.
That would not be the Pope or the Jesuit General, but would be the person who inherited the rest of Caesar’s Titles.
Who that is, is probably only known to the Council of Eight, and maybe a few people beyond it?
This is something I am investigating, but actually have to leave my little corner of the world to do! I hope to have some more information on this as
the summer wears on and comes to an end. I hate cold weather!
3. Along the same lines, unless we are on autopilot, it sounds that there is a number of people that are brought in to be made aware of these matters.
Is this the case? Are people chosen to join the leadership or is it a blood matter of sorts? Considering the incompetency of presidents in handling
big matters like wars, etc. I'm impressed this stuff does not leak easier over beers.
Much of what happens happens through synergy. By setting up two sides, of which you control each, but only with partial information, and only
empowered to the extent you want them each to be, to collide, as genuine diametrically opposed sides, where the outcome of that confrontation, is what
the person really wants, who set up both sides to confront one another.
This is how puppet masters work, and in working in this way, you never have to tell hardly anyone the whole truth or the plan, because in essence you
are tricking them to think that you helping them achieve what they want, even while you are at the same time, tricking a diametrically opposed
opposition into thinking you are helping them achieve what they want. The natural compromise born out of that battle though is in fact what the Puppet
Master wants, and the easiest way to not have anyone betray him, or reveal that, is to never share that with anyone, but to instead simply allow them
to believe you are helping them get precisely what they want.
At the highest levels, some talk does occur, but let’s say for instance, I came by all this information, because someone involved at the very top
told me, and even provided me some real proof.
Who though would I take this information to in the way of a Law Enforcement Agency? The heads of those agencies are all political appointees who would
simply bury the case, that’s why they were appointed as heads, to make sure some things can never gain traction. The same is true with the Media,
the Media Moguls are all either oligarchs or tied directly to them.
When Marine Core Major General Smedgley Darlington Butler was approached in the 1930’s by the Powers that Be to lead a Coup against the Roosevelt
Administration, it was quietly investigated by Congress, and then publicly the New York Times and other’s stated that this was all sour grapes on
Butler’s part for being passed over and up for Commandant of the Marine Core, which terribly hurt his reputation. Once the plot was dealt with
neither the Government nor the Oligarchs wanted it to appear credible, so Butler who was a determined man went from city to city, contacting small
newspapers and speaking to small groups to get his points across, and eventually restored his reputation in that fashion. However its important to
note because a massive depression was gripping the nation most people did not care, and its also important to note that many of those small and
independent publications have long ago been bought up by media groups owned by the Oligarchs.
The truth only becomes the truth, if you can find a real platform for it, and that is a very difficult thing to do.
4. Assuming the state of the world and command and control you describe is correct, what are we to expect in the short to medium term? It sounds from
your comments that much of what happens is not coincidental. Do we have any insight as to what to expect?
Ultimately the drive is towards a one world government, using events that mimic biblical prophecy. This is one of the things that makes Rome not only
very important, beyond being the architect of those prophecies and the belief system that gives them credit, but keeps that belief system credible.
Ultimately it does no good just to force people into submission because productivity decreases and opposition increases, so its about driving world
events in a way where people see the real value in giving up national and religious identity to create a one world homogenous society.
Ultimately that requires people being injured by the Statist system of nations, and the system of multiple religions who fight each other over these
Make the economy bad enough, create enough wars between nations and religions, throw in some secret technology to create what appears to be natural
disasters and pretty soon you have people believing a. that prophecy is coming true, and that God will soon be returning and to embrace these things,
and b. that national pride, religious pride, and ethnicity caused these things, and that its time to do away with them.
In this fashion the people not killed in these events will be happy and productive in a now homogenous one world government, religion and society, and
the Oligarchs can eliminate overlapping and costly layers of management and control, by maintaining different systems for each nation.
[edit on 19/4/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]