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He teaches that the Kenites are really Jews and Africans that are descendants of Cain, but that isn't possible since Cain's line was wiped out in the flood. The Kenites can also be traced back to Hobab, one of Moses' father in laws.
By far the most made up of his theories because it is not in the Bible at all. He claims the "manuscripts" say that 8 Adamic souls went on the ark, however you can only get the information from his church because no one else has it. LOL. The Bible is clear that the 8 people were Noah, Shem, Ham, Japheth, and their wives.
This guy is a heretic. Has anyone else heard this garbage he puts out every morning?
Originally posted by LaMadameDuval
Where does it say Cain and his descendents were wiped out from the Flood? I've never seen it in the Old Testament.
What is an "Adamic" soul? It mentions people who went in the Ark but maybe others went in too who weren't important enough to mention. who knows?
That's harsh. Sounds like he is making up stuff though, to go along with his theories. What is he a heretic of? Will the Inquisition arrive at the studio where he preaches and commit him to an auto-de-fe?
What religion is he espousing?
Why do so may Christian's spend so much time interpreting the Old Testament which is the Jewish Books anyway, I think they should concentrate on the words of Jesus.
He had a new and different religious outlook; in fact, the New Testament almost doesn't fit in the Bible, it is so modern. What do you think?
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Firstly, the whole "Rapture" thing is itself a false teaching and a part of the great delusion that the bible speaks of.
So, it doesn't matter if he teaches the "right" thing about the "Rapture" because the "Rapture" itself is not even biblical.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Keep hoping for a "Rapture." It is an escapist mentality at its worst and it is never promised to anyone.
Originally posted by peewee1263
Have you all seen the video clip that shows Arnold sitting at his desk and then yelling to someone off camera and then allegedly going for a gun in his briefcase? It's been awhile since I saw it, but I think that you can find it in either youtube or google video.
I watch this man every morning before I go to work (there is nothing else on) and he is always coming up with some outrageous things to say. He always claims that he never judges anyone, but it sure sounds like he does an awful lot of it to me.
Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
How do I splain it...(?)
Pastor Murray teaches people how to study the Bible to get the most out of it.
People that are seriously interested will buy books etc from him because some are simply out of print but he still sees to it that they are available.
You can get a Strongs Concordance pretty much anywhere.
If you get a Companion Bible, as I did, you'll have ready made footnotes and contextual definitions and crossreferences etc... It is NOT a Bible for the faint-hearted
You don't need to believe everything his commentary (which he keeps to a minimum unless he's making a serious point) has to say. As with any teacher, you need to vet their teaching on your own time.
He is the only fuggin Pastor that teaches.
Their are some that come close to attempting to teach. BUT, Most people in the mainstream don't really care anyways.
Mainstream need stroking to give up their cash (tithe?) sooooo... If you don't like him, turn him off. I've never seen him beg.
Check any other preacher that's via media ; satellite, cable or any broadcast, they beg and it's embarrassing to experience. I'd more like to give money to a bum sleeping in a doorway in downtown San Francisco with being asked before I'd give money to worthless shister.
Pastor Murray is the real deal... Remember, that he isn't GOD; then all will be well. I wish (pray) that people would be more patient and stop looking for Christ in real men. They are just men.
No he doesn't teach blacks are sub-human or anything other than the good people they are...
Originally posted by MinisterFortson
OK, lets clear this up and feel fee to tell me if I'm taking it out of context.
"Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast." - Isaiah 26:20
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
The Serpent Seed
He teaches that Cain was the son of the Devil, but that would require Eve to have sex with the Devil in the Garden, when Genesis 4:1 is clear that she was outside of the garden when she got pregnant and had Cain.
Genesis 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
5377 nasha' naw-shaw' a primitive root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:--beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.
398 'akal aw-kal' a primitive root; to eat (literally or figuratively):--X at all, burn up, consume, devour(-er, up), dine, eat(-er, up), feed (with), food, X freely, X in...wise(-deed, plenty), (lay) meat, X quite.
Now, in context Mr Minister, just what the hell is being discussed.
And isn't that just the prefect example of the devolution of scripture being stripped of context. Welcome to the New World Order, and the basis for that One World Religion.