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Originally posted by Americanist
I have a hard time seeing the actual jet engine that causes the contrail in this video. Any ATS'ers like to give it a shot? How about all you rational minds that love to make a good counter-argument. Have at it folks (in case it doesn't load properly)...
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by burntheships
"Chemicals fired into the hazy skies".
"Loading clouds with silver iodide".
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Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by CHRLZ
Funny you should mention "dump" because the fuel we use is already a waste product of refineries. It's also easy to ascertain that additives are distributed via fuel mixtures.
And I wouldn't let the music fool you. No one wants to sit through a silent movie. I have several still photos of dispersement tanks the size of kegs embedded in airliners as well as various fixtures on the wings/ body of aircraft.
I've also done enough study in nano-technology to realize the potential harm to crops all the way up to our respiratory tracts. You can downplay all you want, but the Universe is cause and effect. I search for the cause to our 6000% increase in autism along with the staggering number of other illnesses. Perhaps it's because we're ranked so low on the totem pole when it comes to health care. Just a thought...
Just an additional thought.. Can I ask if you, or anyone, were wanting to make the general populace ingest/breathe in a substance, would you use aircraft to spray it (at what, in most cases, is very obviously high altitude), with all the wind dispersion and high altitude IR/UV damage to the chemicals/nanotechnology that process would entail? And knowing that the absolutely huge supply chain would be visible at airports across the world, and it would only take a few people to blow the whistle? Or, would you just stuff it into petroleum and let cars distribute it? Or put it into the water supply? In fact, can you think of a *worse*, more inefficient and less controllable way to 'dose' people than dropping stuff from high altitudes, esp. given that wonderfully predictable stuff called 'weather' that will ensure despite your best efforts, most of it will drift hundreds of miles/kilometres away and lob in the desert or sea? Don't get me wrong, I think CONtrails are damaging, and yes, there are fuel combustion by-products that pollute the air (although nothing like what we do with automobiles).
Originally posted by CHRLZ
Or, would you just stuff it into petroleum and let cars distribute it?
Or put it into the water supply?
Originally posted by daddio
reply to post by 4nsicphd
WTH? I have used B-17 or laetrile for cancer and it works. What is wrong with you? Have you ever had cancer and used it? Do you have any backround in medical science or biology/chemistry? I would hope you have something to back up your claims?
How about a PhD in Forensic Chemistry which includes a strong biology component. Laetrile is the trade name for laevo-mandelonitrile-beta-glucuronoside. It is also sometimes called amygdalin, a substance found naturally in the pits of apricots and various other fruits. Amygdalin was originally isolated in 1830 by two French chemists. In the presence of certain enzymes, amygdalin breaks down into glucose, benzaldehyde, and hydrogen cyanide (which is poisonous and was the poison used in the gas chamber for executions). The "father" of laetrile, Ernst T. Krebs, Jr., attended medical school for a short time but was expelled after repeating his freshman year and failing his sophomore year . He received a somewhat spurious "Doctor of Science degree in return for giving a 1 hour lecture on Laetrile at American Christian College, a small, now-defunct Bible college in Tulsa, Oklahoma. The school, founded by evangelist Billy James Hargis, had no science department and lacked authority from Oklahoma to grant any doctoral degrees. Bruzelius, NJ. The merchants of Laetrile. Boston Sunday Globe, June 17, 1979. For a comprehensive review of the history of Laetrile, see www.quackwatch.org... and www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... Mant cancers spontaneously go into remission and if the patient happened to be taking some supplement or another, the supplement gets credit for the "cure." For example, look at the case of Steve McQueen.
Originally posted by bearplane
i do know that i saw one just the other day, and in front of the plane, there was a dark looking "ray", like the intended path of the plane followed a darkness. all i can describe it as was like "non-light." whatever that means. anyone feel me on that?
I have several still photos of dispersement tanks the size of kegs embedded in airliners as well as various fixtures on the wings/ body of aircraft.