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It isnt forced if he made the choice to have sex in the first place.
Originally posted by leo123
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
The emotional issues people who are for mens rights in abortion use are not an issue in the bottom line. If a woman wants to abort, her body her choice.
Fair enough, but her "choices" should stop with her body and she shouldn't be able to force a man to support a child he doesn't want.
Originally posted by Benji1999
That is why I cannot see any reason why the man should be legally obliged for the financial upkeep of a prospective child that he has no say in whether he/she is born or not !
What does suck and blow at the same time mean?
Originally posted by leo123
All you are confirming to me is that you want women to be able to suck and blow at the same.
However, if women want ALL the say on how a pregnancy unfolds, which I don't have a problem with, they have to take ALL the responsibilities associated with THEIR actions including the issue that she shouldn't be able to impose upon the man financially if that is not his wish.
[edit on 15-4-2010 by leo123]
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
When you have sex with a woman, you do so with the full knowledge that it may result in a child that you will have to support. You're not being blindsided here. You know the way it works.
BEFORE you have sex:
You KNOW you can't decide whether she carries it to term or not.
You KNOW that if she does, you will be required to support it.
BEFORE a woman has sex:
She KNOWS she can become pregnant.
She KNOWS she will have to make the choice whether to keep it or abort it.
She KNOWS she will have to provide support for the baby.
Knowing these truths, if she decides to accept your sperm, she WILL have to deal with the consequences.
They are different responsibilities and choices, but both parties have responsibilities and both have choices.
Originally posted by Monts
reply to post by jeanvaljean
Not necessarily, I am merely pointing out the fact that as soon as the embryo is implanted, the father has absolutely no say in abortion or birth, even though he is just as responsible for the pregnancy as the mother.
Being a guy myself, this really bugs me :/
Originally posted by SiKFury
Once the sperm hits the egg its undeniably human. There is a 0% chance that the end result from its beginning/end would be anything other than a specific?unique human being.
1 billion humans world wide have been snuffed out since Roe V Wade do to this supposed "choice". --conservative estimates.
The genocidal maniacs of the 20th century are spinning in their graves with envy. No longer does a leader need to find a scapegoat to rid the world of unwanted people. All they have to do is give a certain portion of the population the false sense liberty by giving them the right to squash the liberty of non fully developed human.
All bets for the fetus living are off, even naturally, until, and not even then, the fetus is born!