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Originally posted by FireMoon
reply to post by drew hempel
No i said he was head of Wehrmacht military intelligence, not just part of it. Believe it or not when you read umpteen books on the subject there are times when the info become a bit of a blur.
Wilhelm Bodewin Gustav Keitel (22 September 1882–16 October 1946) was a German field marshal (Generalfeldmarschall). As head of the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (High Command of the Armed Forces) and de facto war minister, he was one of Germany's most senior military leaders during World War II. At the Allied court at Nuremberg he was tried, sentenced to death and hanged as a major war criminal.
Originally posted by drew hempel
Originally posted by FireMoon
reply to post by drew hempel
No i said he was head of Wehrmacht military intelligence, not just part of it. Believe it or not when you read umpteen books on the subject there are times when the info become a bit of a blur.
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Wilhelm Bodewin Gustav Keitel (22 September 1882–16 October 1946) was a German field marshal (Generalfeldmarschall). As head of the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (High Command of the Armed Forces) and de facto war minister, he was one of Germany's most senior military leaders during World War II. At the Allied court at Nuremberg he was tried, sentenced to death and hanged as a major war criminal.
Michael Mueller, CANARIS: The Life and Death of Hitler's Spymaster (London: Chatham Publishing, 2007), 388 pp., endnotes, bibliography, photos, index. German journalist Michael Mueller begins his biography of Wilhelm Canaris, head of the Nazi's foreign intelligence service, the Abwehr, by noting that after 60 years and several other biographies, the real Canaris eludes the printed word. One reason for this, he suggests, is the perpetuation of errors accepted as fact. Another is that "the wealth of archival material" that must be examined "is so enormous that little of it has yet been assessed." This book, he admits, "neither answers all the questions, nor resolves all the contradictions." (xv) Quite right he is. Moreover, the book does not correct or even identify previous errors or erroneous impressions. Second, he omits at least one important and well documented operation--the case of Madame Szymanska,12 one of Canaris's voices to the West through MI6 and OSS. And third, Mueller's description of Canaris's life and career--especially his role in the resistance to Hitler that cost him his life--though interesting, adds nothing new. Finally, the mission and structure of the Abwehr, which varies from book to book, is not clarified by Mueller; an appendix on this point would have helped greatly. In sum, the real Canaris still eludes the printed word.
Not ten or twenty or hundreds of balloons — from 1951 to 1956, some 350,000 balloons of all types floated over eastern Europe and into Russia, dropping more than 300 million leaflets, posters and books. (Ironically, thousands of balloons aloft coupled with the 1951 release of The Thing and The Day the Earth Stood Still in America, two films that opened with flying saucers landing on earth, resulted in the biggest international UFO “flap” in history.) The liberal press ate it up. Anti-Communists around the world applauded. The angry Soviets protested. PVO Strany tracked the balloons and alerted aircraft batteries and fighter bases. Thousands were shot down just as the 509th Bomb Group and the CIA had anticipated since the top secret tests had begun at Roswell.
Shortly after the occupation began the deputy commander of the US Air Force in Europe, Major-General Hugh Knerr wrote: “Occupation of German scientific and industrial establishments has revealed the fact that we have been alarmingly backward in many fields of research. If we do not take the opportunity to seize the apparatus and the brains that developed it and put the combination back to work promptly, we will remain several years behind while we attempt to cover a field already exploited.”
With its radar-dodging carbon injected plywood skin and swept-back single wing, the 1944 Horten Ho 229 was arguably the first stealth aircraft. This gave way to the later developed B-2 stealth bomber which was effectively a clone of the Horton Ho, produced by Northrop Aviation, now called Northrop Grumman, at a cost of $2 billion. They were given a Horten Ho to work from and almost a generation later produced one of the most versatile and devastating planes ever built.
In 1992, when The International U.F.O. Museum and Research Center opened in Roswell, New Mexico, only 3,000 aficionados of aliens visited. (As for alien aficionados of the museum, who can say?) Today, the museum is straining at the walls, far too small for the reported 160,000 people who visit it annually. It's become a must-stop for pilgrims to Roswell, site of a -- ahem -- legendary U.F.O crash in 1947.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Either way I am going to use occam's razor which says the simplest solution is usually the correct one.
Originally posted by yeti101
reply to post by Havick007
there were over 700 balloon launches in 1947 from the surrounding air bases. They didnt have any identifiable labels or markings on them until after 1948.