reply to post by ghostsoldier
I think the only one who has failed to show an actual alternative is TVP. It is not an alternative because there is no reality to its application.
The whole idea of TVP relies on technology that does not exists. Most of its propaganda uses some examples of technology that we have applied in a
very limited and minute ways, yet TVP expands on these examples like they are a given solution.
How does the TVP resolve the issue of intellectual property as a resource?
Given that it is derived from individuals and not from a shared environment( like say other resources like metals or agriculture that would be
allocated purely by need).
In a commercial sense, it is the market that drives innovation or stifles it, in TVP, there would be no incentive other then a service to the Ideals
of TVP or the good of the collective. In order to achieve that, the whole concept of service to TVP or the collective good would have to be instituted
in order to drive the mechanisms of progress and innovation. It then becomes the "state of TVP" priority to motivate people were currently in our
world, it is up to the individual, or individual businesses and corporations that are driven to succeed in a market place that currently provides that
TVP probably won't discuss its scientific socialist paradigm because it will have to answer the question of how it will motivate the population to
strive for scientific excellence, innovation and diversity that it will rely upon after removing the mechanism that drives it now (money).
The over riding agenda would be to simply serve the collective system, which I think the OP stresses, leads to a road of tyranny. We have examples of
I think TVP is naive to think that money is the problem in that it causes scarcity, does that mean that when it gets rid of a monetary system it will
No, this will not happen. TVP will then have to allocate resources based on its own system (now we have politics) and people who will have to explain
the system( now we have bureaucrats and politicians wether you rotate them or not). This will place a value on that resource or a value on those that
it is allocated too in it that places their needs above others. Once that happens we have two classes of people, those whose needs were served over
the needs of others.
TVP is not a solution. It is communism repackaged as a means to value, acquire and distribute resources that are currently valued, acquired and
distributed via currency, which we use money to represent.
TVP is a new currency and its new monetary system will be the resources and technology. How will it deliver a new technology, say a piece of
technology is made, and there are just 100 pieces of this new technology. Who gets it first? Again this creates a hierarchy or a system where people
will have to make decisions, and a hierarchy of people who will be the beneficiaries of that system. So TVP is not really an alternative.
Like money or any other representation of currency, this will be used or manipulated or used to corrupt people or will be allocated unfairly or
distributed unevenly by people. This will create disparity, classes and poverty and crime.
The other problem is that TVP does not really say how it will replace the monetary system as a means to gauge what it is that people actually need or
require. It simply says that its "super computers" will take care of that. But how?
TVP technology and resources can be equated with money, we can envision similar problems.
An abundance of money helped people create bubbles by building what ever they want rather then relying on a sustainability of profit via the scarcity
If resources are that available and so is technology, the same applies because there is no real value to what we do. TVP would have to value our
actions or what we do for us. Tyranny.
[edit on 17-4-2010 by Derised Emanresu]