ps. If you make more than one edit, before submitting, wipe the text at the bottom that says "edited on ...... by ...". This way only one "edited by........" shows up. Looks better that way, not talking from experience or anything...

pps. What is the website UM that you mention? Generally you will find people quite tolerant here. People have misconception of "alternative" or "conspiracy"websites. There is often very interesting intelligent discussion, some people are very knowledgable.

Fascinating reports SAB8. They seem well written and documented in an intelligent way without too much speculation. The fact they were their to observe aerial phenomena and were surprised at the other events, of which they were unwilling to assume too much, also adds some weight IMO. I can't help agreeing with them regarding what might be observed from the sky in this region. Yes, I also agree it adds a precedence and therefore some weight in favour of Tony's account. Thanks for that. Certainly does seem an area worthy of further research.

As a post script to this thread I would like to mention that I now have little, if any, reason to doubt the nature of this video and its originator as to whether it was genuine in the way put forth, even if some conclusions seemed to be arrived at rather in a rash way. This comes from certain recent efforts and experience in the same location. In fact I have held off acknowledging this, simply in an effort to be cautious and sure of what I say and simply due to the fact of having such difficulty getting my mind around certain things.

Though in the end my interest in this was personal anyway and in no way an effort to convince anyone else, something of which I have little interest in doing. In this way I feel I probably should have kept opinion to myself. I can't help feeling less eager to add another anecdote of my own to the already vast collection of stories.

The only answer I could have to interested and open minded doubters is this. For anyone with opportunity and enough interest, go and genuinely study the area day and night for yourself, preferably by yourself, see what you find. The rationale, for myself at least, is that statistically reports of sightings seem to vastly favour being alone at the time.

The main reason I write this is to redress the situation if my opinions on this video had brought anyone's integrity into question. I have acknowledged this also in the only other forum where I have put forth an opinion. In this instance I feel I am being given the opportunity to savor some humble pie, as to what I accept or have known for a very long time as being "normal".

For various reasons I doubt the existence of a creature like this will ever be explained scientifically, in no small part because they are outside of any parameters science and common sence would dictate as being acceptable when compared to any other living species. Whether flesh and blood or phenomena in some other way is questionable. Though whether they exist less so now, for myself at least.


[edit on 1-7-2010 by Cogito, Ergo Sum]

Originally posted by Cogito, Ergo Sum
As a post script to this thread I would like to mention that I now have little, if any, reason to doubt the nature of this video and its originator as to whether it was genuine in the way put forth, even if some conclusions seemed to be arrived at rather in a rash way. This comes from certain recent efforts and experience in the same location. In fact I have held off acknowledging this, simply in an effort to be cautious and sure of what I say and simply due to the fact of having such difficulty getting my mind around certain things.

I would be fascinated to know what your personal experience was. If you don't feel comfortable sharing it in this thread can you please U2U me.

Though in the end my interest in this was personal anyway and in no way an effort to convince anyone else, something of which I have little interest in doing. In this way I feel I probably should have kept opinion to myself. I can't help feeling less eager to add another anecdote of my own to the already vast collection of stories. The only answer I could have to interested and open minded doubters is this. For anyone with opportunity and enough interest, go and genuinely study the area day and night for yourself, preferably by yourself, see what you find. The rationale, for myself at least, is that statistically reports of sightings seem to vastly favour being alone at the time.

Integrity was never an issue.

I can vouch for it personally.


Mungo

[edit on 6/7/2010 by mungodave]

I've been in the area of discussion during daytime a few times for recreation. I'm not sure if I'd camp alone at night for the purpose of looking for something to happen.

One thing I always have with me camping is my 5 million candle power torch, fully charged. I consider it current technologies equivalent of a fire stick to ward off unwanted creatures during the night.....well at least those creatures who have eyes