I smell revolution around the corner Something seems to be brewing under the surface we dont see yet

If the Super Bowl were cancelled, you might get enough angry people to care about doing anything. The American public are still too distracted by bread and circuses to even think about a revolution. If the TPTB see that a revolution is inevitable, they may start another war, or do some false-flag to bring in martial law.

People are still residing in a "rapidly deteriorating" bubble of comfort. What do I mean by this, Chilis is still doing great business, people are still going to the movies, the malls are still up and running, you can still see your favorite artist in concert and the Iphone is still available at Best Buy.

The full impact of what has taken place has not yet hit the average person. I believe the saying goes "The difference between a Recession and a Depression is in a Recession your neighbor is out of work in a Depression you are out of work" We are actually well within a Depression but their are plenty of people that are either not feeling it "Yet" or they are adjusting to it. Sooner or later the bottom will fall out its only a matter of time. Many of their neighbors are well aware of this fact.

When it hits home is when your neighbor with 4 kids to feed comes to get what you have to take care of his own - wait for it. Oh but the police will protect you - think again. Police have families too and I can assure you they will be caring for their own and you will be but an afterthought when society breaks down.

My point is the "Paper Comfort Zone" still exists for many and until that has been largely interrupted people will carry on as though "it will get better". Well it cant get better because we don't produce enough to fill the gaping hole known as the debt that combined with a corrupt Central bank sucking what little bit people have left like some giant vacuum cleaner will get us to that point soon enough.

My only hope is that some have had the foresight to look beyond their perceived reality and prepare for what is soon enough going to be visiting their doorsteps. Get a gun, Get in shape, and get ready...

[edit on 13-4-2010 by WWJFKD]

In response to the op... Ya think?

I think something is happening, too. I think people are starting to wake up to the amount of deception & control they've been subjected to. TPTB/controlled media are desperately trying to keep a lid on the growing awareness, but they are losing. The Internet has been a great tool to help spread awareness & wake people up to truths they'd have rather remained hidden. They are panicked. They have even acknowledged sending trolls onto prominent websites to steer public perception & discourse as part of information operations. Please see my latest blog post for more info. They won't be able to stop people from waking up.

yes many things are happening that screams something is about to happen like businesses are building there on militias. Ya thats not interesting or all the states suing Obama for the health care bill. people threatening political leaders ya something is going to happen

Originally posted by jinx880101

The problem is- people are scared...they are scared of the military for one, scared of having to start from scratch- (although many are already having to do that)...

I've always said this, and I will say it again- Why are masses and masses of people afraid to stand up to a minority?

I also suppose since we have been disarmed, it makes it more difficult to defend yourself... When I think about an uprising, I also think of army tankers and brain washed soldiers 'serving their country'...And that scares me.

You bring up some good points which I think most people are probably "cloudy" about right now. First, everyone who joins the military and takes their oath swears to protect the constitution against all enemies "foreign and domestic" My question is, when will our government be classified as an "enemy of the constitution"? Once that happens (as if it really hasn't already) will the military fight for the government or for the people?


I also don't understand why masses and masses of people are afraid. The population of Iraq before this current war was somewhere around 25,000,000. Now, Saddam's Republican Guard was what.....45000 strong? Yet these 25 million people who absolutely hated their dictator couldn't find the courage and strength to come together as a whole and take him down. They had to rely on the help of America; probably because they knew it was coming anyway, but who knows. People have lost their edge and their nerve.

Originally posted by kidflash2008

There is a reality here that many of the ones speaking of "revolution" and "secession" do not see: They are scaring many of us on the progressive side.

First of all, you also have Communists in this website talking about creating and spreading a worldwide "violent" revolution. But I guess you are not scared of them right?....

Originally posted by kidflash2008
I think that is the intent to intimidate us if we support President Obama, or any of his ideas.

You have got to be kidding.... You support President Obama's Socialist dictatorial ideas, and laws?....

You support the FORCED microchipping of Americans that was passed in the "healthcare reform"?....

You support the FORCED healthcare that ALL Americans MUST buy?... BTW, Americans MUST buy the healthcare insurance that THE GOVERNMENT wants....

You support the FORCED Community Service that children from secondary, and Progressives want to include children from primary, school must work for FREE for the government?..... I lived through that in a COMMUNIST COUNTRY.....

People like you who still follow blindly a "Progressive" government, and other "Progressives" are too naive nad sorry to say ignorant.

BTW, in case you didn't know Soros, who is a "Progressives" said this past January, and I quote....

During an interview with the BBC at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, billionaire leftist George Soros weighed in on the power and influence of the U.S.

"Im not looking for a worldwide recession. Im looking for a significant shift of power and influence away from the US in particular and a shift in favour of the developing world, particularly China."

mypetjawa.mu.nu...

Soros is part of the Socialist/Communist , or as it is being called now "Progressive" elites, yet people like you want to claim that "Progressivism' has nothing to do with Socialism/Communism?..... Take a look at the laws, and policies being implemented by your Progressive President....and what other Progressive elites are saying....

Originally posted by kidflash2008

I have noticed that the media is called the liberal elite all the time. Here is a list of some of the liberal elite who have been on the air for a while:

Rush Limbaugh
Glenn Beck
Sean Hannity
Bill O'Reilly
Rick Scarborough

The list does go on as there are so many more out there who speak for "the revolution".

None of them is part of the Socialist/Communist or "Progressive" media....

The Communist/Socialist or Progressive Media is MSNBC, which has a line directly to the President... CNN international which according to it's founder Ted Turner was an idea that FIDEL CASTRO gave to him.... I wonder why a COmmunist dictator would want CNN International to exist.....

BTW, not too long ago your Progressive President talked about taking those people in your list off the air....and it is part of the plan of the Socialists/Communists, I mean "Progressives"...

Originally posted by kidflash2008

What will you do with the people of color?
What will you do with liberal thinking people?
What will you do with atheist or Pagan peoples?
What will you do with Jews or Muslims?

Will you shoot us unarmed people on sight?

Obviously you have been hiding under a rock.... Many true Americans of different races (it is not called people of color, but races. That shows me you don't have much of an education) don't want what the "Progressives" are doing to the Republic of the United States of America....

BTW, not having an education in an of itself is nothing bad. Unfortunately there are people who for whatever reason don't have much of an education. But this also shows me why you are a "Progressive". Obviously you don't even know the things "Progressives" have done, and what they want...

What in the world makes you think that all Atheists, Pagan, Jewish, and Good Muslim people are "Progressives"?.... You have certainly been living under a rock...

BTW, don't worry at least on my part I won't put you in jail for being any of that.... even though Communists had me, and people like me go in hiding to church because it was banned.... We had to go in hiding, i was but a child, because of the Socialist/Communist indoctrination that "religion is evil"... When "Progressivism" Socialism/Communism have murdered more unarmed civilians than all the deaths together from all three world wars, and together with all major conflicts, and wars.... Socialism/Communism has murdered over 110 millionpeople...and that's not counting the deaths of soldiers but just the murders of civilians....and that's not counting the millions of inprisoned civilians...

And who the heck is saying anything about shooting anyone?....much less unarmed civilians?... This is the kind of crap that your leftist media indoctrinates you into believing....

But hey, now we have a "Progressive government" that claims anyone who "fears COMMUNISM" and fears a One World Government is a "potential terrorist"..... I wonder why they didn't claim the same about people who fear the holocaust.....

Do youself a favor and read about the history of America, and read the Constitution of the United States.... and don't forget to read, appart from the second amendment to read article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution, which CLEARLY states....

U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4

Article 4 - The States
Section 4 - Republican Government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,.............

www.usconstitution.net...

BTW, the Republican party in power for the most part does not represent real Republicanism...more so when many of them are neocons, and who were for a long time leftists who changed parties to infiltrate the Republican party....and the rest were bought off but for maybe a few exceptions....

Originally posted by kidflash2008
You are very correct I am scared. But I am not scared of the government or the corporations. I am scared of the ones who want this revolution.

That's because you are too naive to see what is happening...



[edit on 13-4-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

The American people will do nothing until there is a body count. and I am
not advocating creating one, simply putting to words what it will take
to actually motivate true patriots into action.

Do you recall the man who flew his plane into the IRS building? Did you read
his manifesto/note. It was actually quite cogent and prophetic. He stated that
patriotic Americans would do nothing to take back control of their country
until the body count was large enough as to not be dismissed, and that
his death is one more body to add to the list. He is probably right.

Americans are (caution: HUGE generalization ahead) mostly fattened, lazy
arm-chair warriors, who shrink at the thought of true confrontation.

Want to do something patriotic?

Don't wear your seatbelt. Just say no. sure, we may have mandated
non-slip surfaces in private home bathrooms in the future, just to keep
us safe from ourselves, but it is a good idea. (I am not being ridiculous,
I am being literal. (A society willing to give up a little of its freedom for
the sake of safety, will lose both and deserve neither ~ Thomas
Jefferson.) Or you could just wear your seatbelt because, after-all, it
is a ~good idea~ and the motorcycle cop beside you in traffic has more
important things to do...you wouldn't want to bother him or the legal
system would you.

Challenge the police when stopped at a routine checkpoint that is
legally allowed at the border, but is instead situated on a main thoroughfare
50 or 100 miles in country. Or you could just allow them to detain you
and answer a few questions, and be on your way...Yes it could get worse
in the future, but it isn't the future yet, and I have a soccer game to get to.

Visit a city council meeting and let your voice be heard. Tell them you don't
want traffic cameras at every red light. Tell them that a surveilled society
is not a free society and that the ~running~ of red lights is not that BIG
a problem. Tell them that we have police for this...or just cut your grass
and pick up the dog doo in the yard, you're to busy for the ~little things~.

Go to the polls and vote, and while you're there demand a PAPER ballot.
Tell them you don't trust electronic machines to do the counting, that
you think your vote would be safer if actual people counted the votes.
...Or watch American Idol

reply to post by blue_fish


First, I would like to say that the author of the actual V for Vendette book completely disowned that abortion of a movie.

"[The movie] has been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country... It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives—which is not what the comic V for Vendetta was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England." Quote by Alan Moore.

He also went on to cut all ties with DC comics.

The point of V was fascisim vs anarchy.

V was not about democracy, but about anarchy. Complete anarchy. Any rule inhibits freedom. Period.

The Fascist character was actually a bit sympathetic. He did not want power or glory for himself, but rather because he saw a problem. People were rioting in the street, killing each other. Children were starving. So, his party rose to power, and ended it all. There may not have been freedom, but there was full bellies and the trains ran on time.

So which is better, to be free but possibly have your head smashed in? Or to be controlled in every way but have protection? The simple answer: neither. The extremes of any arguement are always the wrong ones. A balance is needed.

I think its more along the line of people wanting a revolution hence the manny reasons but out of the millions of people, it really is a unprepared situation.

now if people can form together for at least a group of 1000 then that can began to grow, it becomes exponential after that with the right planning.

Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by ugie1028

 

People talk about getting back to the constitution... Well, maybe we should stop and consider if the document itself is antiqued. We live in a very different society than that of the late 1700's. Some parts are useful and apply to us, others need to be spelled out to protect rights.

It sounds like your favorite form of government is corporate anarchy. After all, thats what you get when the government ignores the laws. Is that really okay with you? Because to me I have a serious problem with a government that not only doesn't follow the rules it sets for others but does not even follow the rules it sets for itself.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


"First of all, you also have Communists in this website talking about creating and spreading a worldwide "violent" revolution. But I guess you are not scared of them right?"

I have not heard of any radical moonbat units since the 1960s and early 1970s in the United States. I would laugh at them more than be afraid of them. The guys who are carrying automatic weapons to what is supposed to be a peaceful protest make me flinch a bit.

"You have got to be kidding.... You support President Obama's Socialist dictatorial ideas, and laws?"

I do not support all of his ideas, but I do support universal healthcare for all in the worlds richest nation. I am opposed to mandatory purchasing of health care insurance. The fines have been eliminated for that part in the House fix if the bill.

"You support the FORCED Community Service that children from secondary, and Progressives want to include children from primary, school must work for FREE for the government?..... I lived through that in a COMMUNIST COUNTRY"

I do not support anything that is forced on people. Where does it say mandatory community service?

I may be a progressive and/or liberal in some areas, but I do not follow one political idea blindly. Thinking that healthcare is a right and not a privilege is not a socialist idea only. Many Christian churches believe the same thing. BTW, I think George Soros is an idiot.

"None of them is part of the Socialist/Communist or "Progressive" media"

True, but the commentators I listed have a forum in which to say there views. How can people state it is a liberal based media when there are more conservative talk show hosts out there? When did President Obama state he wanted to take them off the air?

BTW, Glenn Beck made $32 million and is laughing all the way to the bank.

"Obviously you have been hiding under a rock.... Many true Americans of different races (it is not called people of color, but races. That shows me you don't have much of an education) don't want what the "Progressives" are doing to the Republic of the United States of America.... "

"What in the world makes you think that all Atheists, Pagan, Jewish, and Good Muslim people are "Progressives"?.... You have certainly been living under a rock"

Not all of them are progressives, but I do not see them included in these protests. I have known many conservative atheists out there along with conservative Muslims. If the movement was open to all peoples and all political persuasions who want to return the power from the corporations to the people, then you would have a strong case. Show me the groups I mentioned at a Tea Party protest.

"BTW, don't worry at least on my part I won't put you in jail for being any of that.... even though Communists had me, and people like me go in hiding to church because it was banned"

While I am liberal in thought, I am not a communist. Do you like to be described as fascist for your views? I am also for freedom of religion and freedom from it. Separation of church and state is good for all involved. No one religious or non religious belief is put above the other. I am truly sorry for what you and your family went through.

"And who the heck is saying anything about shooting anyone?....much less unarmed civilians?... This is the kind of crap that your leftist media indoctrinates you into believing"

It does not help when people show up for these protests and town hall meetings armed. I support the right to bear arms, but the weapons can be considered intimidation.

"Do youself a favor and read about the history of America, and read the Constitution of the United States.... and don't forget to read, appart from the second amendment to read article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution, which CLEARLY states"

I have read the Constitution many times and agree with it 100%. I also support states rights and let them handle local issues such as education, drugs, and much else. We are a Republic and I am glad you noticed that.

I also support the right to have more than one side and to have a serious political debate on the issues at hand.

"BTW, the REpublican party in power for the most part does not represent real Republicanism...more so when many of them are neocons, and who were for a long time leftists who changed parties to infiltrate the Republican party....and the rest were bought off but for maybe a few exceptions"

I agree with you on the Republicans, but they are not my definition of Progressive. My definition of Progressive is the Teddy Roosevelt kind, where huge monopolies were went after. I do not consider myself a leftist.

"Originally posted by kidflash2008
You are very correct I am scared. But I am not scared of the government or the corporations. I am scared of the ones who want this revolution.


That's because you are too naive to see what is happening"

I am more than aware of what they are doing. That is why I am not afraid of them. I state what I feel and will protest their doings in a heartbeat. I do not support everything they are doing and both the government and even the corporations have good people running them. I also do not trust big religious sects either, as they have a lot of power too.

We actually have more in common than you think. I want a government to work for the people, not for the corporate elitists out there. I want everyone to take responsibility for their actions, from banks to big to fail or the current scandal with the Catholic Church.

I want a single payer healthcare system that works for the people, not for the medical and insurance industry.

I support the Constitution and the Bill of RIghts.

But most important of all, I support your right to your opinion and to state it unedited. I may not agree with it, but that is what makes the United States such a great country.

Lloyd

Originally posted by lagnar
I'm too fat, because I want meat on my bones when TSHTF...as we all should.

It would only take 5% of the population to change things. 15 to 20 million people would completely overwhelm ANY and ALL resistance they could possibly muster, and "they" know it. No reason to fear anything but fear.

The biggest problem we have is simply a logistical one. How do we organize these 5% into real mutable action? "They" are working on this problem as we sleep and speak. Perhaps it's too late for that. Perhaps we should just LET it all come to a head and explode into reality all over the country at around the same time.

Or perhaps we could all come to realize that MONEY is the ultimate root of every single problem you stated above, and finally transcend it altogether. Have the ultimate strike or boycott of money if you will. An immediate rejection of all that money entails across the GLOBE, all at once...united in resource data acquisition.

Shall we set a date? Not as long as American Idol is on I guess... :/

now that i think about..
THERE IS DEFINITELY 100% that A REVOLUTION THAT WILL OCCUR

Think about it , if an effective revolution were to occur during the current circumstances of america and environment of be seen be caught then what would the smart groups and individuals do? they would go underground, they would prepare and be invisible. think about it now. guerilla organization i guarantee 100% would be perfect for this current setting right now. thats why i guarantee 100% that real organizations are happening and they are not known because they are using the methods perfect for them in opposition to government knowledge and that therefor leaves everyone else out, which is also a benefit because it would be harder to expose.


edit:this is speculation but it seems very likely IMO
also possible faults: those underground clans not big enough


i think we need a large 3 party and hidden groups, so everyone gets in the 3rd party that as the surface movement and the underground support would be from clans and groupings that support the surface movement.

but 3rd party can be hijacked..



[edit on 13-4-2010 by togetherwestand]

Originally posted by Awory
...................
V was not about democracy, but about anarchy. Complete anarchy. Any rule inhibits freedom. Period.
.........

And Anarchy is nothing more than Communism in disguise.... We have had arguments with so called "anarchists" and they were nothing but closet Communists....

I made a thread about an "Anarchist" movement, and the goals they have.... class warfare, a proletarian revolution, etc, etc.... nothing but COMMUNISM....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Anarchists don't eves know what it means...

And true anarchy is nothing but chaos... In Anarchy people can kill, murder, and steal if they want...after all it is pure freedom right?....

Some people, and it seems you are one of them, don't understand that with Freedom there are responsibilities.... Your freedom is not the only one that matters, but also the freedom of your neighbors, and everyone else... Whoever, when someone's freedom takes away the freedom of others, that is nothing more than a dictatorship of one...

IMO true Anarchists are selfish, selfrighteous, and utterly naive.



[edit on 13-4-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

Originally posted by kidflash2008

I have not heard of any radical moonbat units since the 1960s and early 1970s in the United States. I would laugh at them more than be afraid of them. The guys who are carrying automatic weapons to what is supposed to be a peaceful protest make me flinch a bit.

You want to laugh at them?... Do you know how many Communist nations are out there and they all got Communism either by force, or slowly through "Progressivism".... but you want to laugh at the people whose ideas have murdered over 110 million civilians?... and that's not counting soldiers of either side dying in the wars....and that is also not counting the millions of inprisoned civilians...

Originally posted by kidflash2008
I do not support all of his ideas, but I do support universal healthcare for all in the worlds richest nation. I am opposed to mandatory purchasing of health care insurance. The fines have been eliminated for that part in the House fix if the bill.

And what has "Universal Healthcare" done to the antions that got it?... It put them in bakruptcy... Not only that but "socialized healthcare" (that's it's true name) lowers the standard of healthcare. I have been there, in Spain actually, and a new "dentist" pulled out two tooth that didn't have to be pulled out. That was only two tooths, there are even worse cases.

Yes, there are also problems with the healthcare in the U.S., but "Socialized healthcare" will only make it worse....

What is so wrong with having AFFORDABLE healthcare?...

Soon enough people are going to be asking for "FREE" houses, "FREE" cars, and "FREE" everything else.... I wonder who will work for "FREE" not getting anything at all in return...

Originally posted by kidflash2008

I do not support anything that is forced on people. Where does it say mandatory community service?

We have had several threads about it, showing what the Democrat "Progressives" want...

Here is one of those threads showing "some" of the things that "Progressives" want to implement...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It shows how Obama, and the "Progressives" are giving power over education, and voluntady and Mandatory Community Service to something they call "the Corporation"...

Some of the things "PRogressives" implemented into law include...

SEC. 115. PARTICIPATION OF STUDENTS AND TEACHERS FROM PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

`(a) In General- To the extent consistent with the number of students in the State, Territory, or Indian tribe or in the school district of the local educational agency involved who are enrolled in private nonprofit elementary and secondary schools, such State, Territory, Indian tribe, or agency shall (after consultation with appropriate private school representatives) make provision--

`(1) for the inclusion of services and arrangements for the benefit of such students so as to allow for the equitable participation of such students in the programs implemented to carry out the objectives and provide the benefits described in this part; and

`(2) for the training of the teachers of such students so as to allow for the equitable participation of such teachers in the programs implemented to carry out the objectives and provide the benefits described in this part.

`(b) Waiver- If a State, Territory, Indian tribe, or local educational agency is prohibited by law from providing for the participation of students or teachers from private nonprofit schools as required by subsection (a), or if the Corporation determines that a State, Territory, Indian tribe, or local educational agency substantially fails or is unwilling to provide for such participation on an equitable basis, the Chief Executive Officer shall waive such requirements and shall arrange for the provision of services to such students and teachers. Such waivers shall be subject to the requirements of sections 9503 and 9504 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 7883 and 7884).
............

Thomas.loc


and the part that you were asking about...

SEC. 1302. REQUIRED AND ELIGIBLE NATIONAL SERVICE PROGRAMS.

Section 122 is amended to read as follows:

`SEC. 122. NATIONAL SERVICE PROGRAMS ELIGIBLE FOR PROGRAM ASSISTANCE.

`(a) Required National Service Corps- The recipient of a grant under section 121(a) and each Federal agency operating or supporting a national service program under section 121(b) shall, directly or through grants or subgrants to other entities, carry out or support the following national service corps, as full- or part-time corps, including during the summer months, to address unmet educational, health, veteran, or environmental needs:
...........

Thomas.loc

BTW, those links are temporary. But you can search in the links provided, and you will find that bill WHICH IS ALREADY LAW....

Notice where it says REQUIRED National Service Programs..... I wonder what REQUIRED means?....

The simple fact of the matter is there will no revolution in America. Yes, I
am from the US and it won't happen. Most of the people would never do
that. They would rather whine and moan and complain. No one will ever
have the acorns to do anything at all. Even if a revolution were to start,
it would be by a handful of fringe loonies, and not by mainstream America.
It would be by a person here, a person there and nothing on a large scale.

In these cases the Feds are right there to crack on them. It would take
literally million upon millions, maybe to the tune of 50 million or more, all at
once, everywhere in the country, to put a dent in what needs to be
changed in this country. My bet is most people will just continue crying
and screaching to deaf ears. Just my view.

[edit on 13-4-2010 by endtimer]

With all the talk of Comminusm,now is a good time to post this:

COMMUNISM WON

U.S. Communist Party Sees Democrat Victory as Its Own
“The right-wing stranglehold on Congress has been broken,” declared Joelle Fishman, chair of the Communist Party USA’s (CPUSA) political action commission. “Electing the Democrats to control congress is a victory for communism.”

Fishman delivered her report to the committee as it discussed the results of the election. “With Democrats in charge the future of the Communist Party looks bright,” said CPUSA’s Executive Vice-chair Jarvis Tyner.

Fishman argued that the results of the election were a mandate to enact the near-term CPUSA agenda, which includes socialized medicine, tax increases, intensified regulations, and nationalization of selected businesses.

Fishman thanked the women’s equality movement and the African American and Latino communities, the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community, environmentalists, and other public advocacy groups for helping bring America a step closer to the communist ideal. “The CPUSA emerges from this election in a key position to lead,” Fishman said. “The Democratic leadership in the House is in agreement with key elements of our near-term agenda. The long struggle to bring communism to America is nearer success than it’s ever been.”

Erica Smiley, National Coordinator of the Young Communist League, was bouyant, “The results of the 2006 election indicate a major turning point in our struggle to communize America.”

www.azconservative.org...

When you hear it in their own words,who can deny it?

Originally posted by kidflash2008
It does not help when people show up for these protests and town hall meetings armed. I support the right to bear arms, but the weapons can be considered intimidation.

It's only intimidating because people haven't exercised the right to do so as openly before as they are now.

If you find simply having a weapon present to exercise a right, at a protest about our rights intimidating. Then you are allowing fear to openly cloud your judgement.

Does simply carrying a weapon count as intimidation? No.

I dislike police, and even then I wouldn't say the simple fact they carry a weapon is intimidating. Same goes for civilians.

It's a persons manner in which they act which can make them intimidating. Not simply having a gun.

Where is your wonderful Obama to comment on the police state nazi crap at the G20?

If you are in a position of power such as that, and choose to simply ignore such unconstitutional issues such as that. You're a terrible person.

And to support someone, who turns a blind-eye to things as this.

IMHO, makes you a terrible person.