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U.S., Israeli Attack on Iran Would Be 'Unacceptable' - Russia Military

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posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 08:59 AM
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reply to post by Flatfish
 


True

The hypocrisy of the United States and Israel is quite unbelieveable at times.




posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:04 AM
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There is nothing to worry about here. Well , no more than usual. The US and Russia just signed up to a nuclear arms deal,so I doubt VERY much that this particular titbit of information is nearly as serious and dangerous as some might see fit to assume.
Quite apart from anything else, Russia has a big hand out in Iran, so they probably feel that they have more to gain from diplomatic intervention, than they stand to loose if US and Israel turn the place into gently smoking glass. I can understand them wishing to retain a safe Iran especialy since when Russia ,China, and other sympathetic nations move, then the world pays great attention. However, if Iran falls to war or obliteration, that leaves China weakened because of energy demands , and Russia with themselves, and a disperate bunch of radical states wandering around looking for a new best pal.
This is a storm in a tea cup I can assure you. The picture of the Iran crisis will change in much more worrying ways in the future.This is just moss on a rock made of fail.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:05 AM
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Ok....Just trying to wrap my mind around everything that is going on...

1. Israel is reportedly about to deport thousands of Palestinians
2. Israel has opened a huge bomb shelter in Tel Aviv
3. Iran is trying to clear out the capital of Tehran due to "earthquake" fears
4. Russia and the US have agreed to "disarm" 1/4 - 1/3 of nukes
5. Russia is reportedly arming Iran with missile system shortly after selling missile systems to China
6. Russians are warning US not to attack Iran
7. Obama is stating we wont use nukes....while Hilary declares loopholes in his statements leaving opportunities to bomb in case of biological attacks
8. US is warning (again) of possible oil shortages - this time by the year 2015

Hmmmm......did I miss anything?

Looks like four governments are trying to not so subtly prepare us for coming conflicts (to put it mildly).

Here are some of the threads referenced in the above post...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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If I understand this correctly, we have someone
not in charge of the Russian government making
policy? As far as an U.S/Israeli military move
against Iran, where are we (U.S) to get the troops?

It has also been a few years since I had to worry
about Russian (Soviet) weapons systems. I do recall
the fear that they and their weapons posed, only
to find out that they were really not all that good
to begin with. So I have to ask, how does anyone
know if these new systems are any good?

This next question might not belong here, bur it
was touched on in the OP. For everyone who cries
about the Palestinians, calls the Israelis and the U.S
criminals for the conditions they are in, why don't
these other Arab countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan,
etc. etc. etc.) help out. As far as that goes, why don't
your country allow open immigration of Palestinians.
I just had to ask because I have never seen an answer.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by Kram09
reply to post by Flatfish
 


True

The hypocrisy of the United States and Israel is quite unbelieveable at times.


How many times has Israel attacked Iran?



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:10 AM
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We shouldn't be surprised. After economic crisis comes war. World War I and II followed serious economic crisis. I expect no less today. War makes money. The Russians are not in the position to want one as they paid off their bills.

Meanwhile Iran is saying Israel has up to 300 nukes. Of course it's Iran's media saying it so take it with a grain of salt but, we do know they have nukes.
www.presstv.ir...

[edit on 12-4-2010 by antonia]



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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Thats truly what is happening.

But there is much more to set in that list -

China dislikes proposed Iran energy sanctions


www.thesundaily.com...

Iran to unveil new military equipment


www.presstv.ir...

Iranian Fighter-Bombers to Stage Air Show in Days


english.farsnews.com...

And Arab nations have given red alert:

Arabs slam Israel's West Bank deportation rule


www.etaiwannews.com...

[edit on 12-4-2010 by JanusFIN]



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by capgrup
As far as an U.S/Israeli military move
against Iran, where are we (U.S) to get the troops?


If need be the government would just reinstate the draft. The US government has shown over the last few years that it really doesn't care about public opinion, so drafting the needed soldiers would not worry them much.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:15 AM
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How many times has Iran attackd Israel?

Anyway, I was referring to the fact that Israel is screeching about Iran trying to develop nuclear weapons, when that is exactly what they did.

But oh no, the fact that Israel has nuclear weapons always seems to be swept under the rug in these discussions.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by capgrup
This next question might not belong here, bur it
was touched on in the OP. For everyone who cries
about the Palestinians, calls the Israelis and the U.S
criminals for the conditions they are in, why don't
these other Arab countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan,
etc. etc. etc.) help out. As far as that goes, why don't
your country allow open immigration of Palestinians.
I just had to ask because I have never seen an answer.


Why should the Palestinians move ?

They have EVERY right to establish a state where they are at the moment, and the US and Israel has been actively denying them this right since forever...



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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I seriously don't feel the West has the cash to repay the bailouts.. unless it releases some new tech that revolutionises the world..

And as you pointed out War, sadly is quite a good money spinner, which follows hot on the heels of economic woes, which usually follows wanten waste and greed.. it seems we humans never learn, eh.

The only problem I have is that all the sides in this have similar issues..



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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Wow, I swear and people look at me crazy when I say I have heard this all before in a book that people swear was written by a false god.

But besides that, This spells a fight in the making. To me it looks as if the Obama administration is moving toward an appeasement of Iran and Russia while leaving our Allies hanging out to dry... I think I heard this somewhere before as well... Oh yeah Hitler and Chamberlain.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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The thing with Chamberlain, is that he really reflected the will of the people at the time... confused and inefectual international polices that where based on not being prepared to pay the price of peace or war..

I really thought Obama would come back from signing that Nuke treaty waving a bit of paper while saying "peace in our time" such are the deja vu moments I feel I am having at the moment. *shakes head*



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:24 AM
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I really do think that the treaty was a gift our president naively handed to the Russians which afforded them the appearance of working with us while maintaining old positions they have been unwilling to budge on.

And lets not forget that the Senate still needs to ratify it by twoo thirds,



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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as if the Russians or Americans would not pass nukes to Iran and Israel (respectively) "under the table". Whoops! We lost some nukes! shhh...don't tell anyone.... lol



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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Ohhh...

I understand now.

We have Rhetoric but no REAL history of hostilities just condemnation in public opinion of Israel with regards to Iran.

Understood.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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You are right about that, But our country is so polarized right now, I don’t see it getting better. We have had bad leadership for ten years now, eventually this thing with Iran and the poor performance of our leaders will come to ahead.

The Civial War and the 60's-70's will have nothing on what may happen here in the states.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:34 AM
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Signing new START was most alarming in my eyes - dont forget how these politics works - denial is the first rule. Talk about peace is truly talking about war. People are still doing their wotk, paying their bills and buying new cars... When MSM is giving us picture about "new era of US/Russian relations" but suddenly keeps silence from all crucial questions which are far from solved, like missile defence systems and Chinese needs for Iranian oil - or armament of Taiwan... We really should be worry now.

START is a joke in this tense situation. At moment of very possible war in ME our placed "leaders" talking about world peace is most disturbing whitewash and brainwash for the poor and entertained masses. We know here so many facts, and we have our ways to connect the dots, which really is not medias work these days - they dont fool me anymore.

Would you buy a car today if you know tomorrow gasoline will jump from 1,30€ to 5€ / per littre?

Thats what happening when Iran gets striked and straight of Hormutz is soon closed. A fact known for years amongst all specialist. Think about its impact to all prizes and inflation witch will come soon after. Would you do your work today for some salary, which will not have any value after few weeks to come?

We are going to great war my friend. Accept that, and there is nothing to stop that from happening. You can keep your denial, but why would you do that? That wont help you. From war against Iran have been decided years ago and preparations in both sides have been huge.

Do you think its normal, that some Super Power uses almost 50% from its income to defence budgets without aiming to launch new wars?

Buy gold if you have money and do that today with all you got.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:34 AM
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Please enlighten us with the facts, as you seem to think you known them.

Or....alternatively you could just provide us with more sarcastic and scornful posts.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by Flatfish
I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid, but I don't understand how the U.S. justifies it's allegiance to Israel who is known to have undeclared nukes.

We are quick to condemn countries like N. Korea and Iran for their secret nuke programs & weapons. To a somewhat lesser degree, we even ridicule India and Pakistan for their nukes, but never a word about Israeli nukes.

I don't know how anyone can take our position seriously while such discrepancies exist. Either we stand against undeclared nukes or we don't. Israel should be made to declare their nukes and allow for the same inspections as everyone else.

Doesn't anyone find it odd that we are hosting a nuclear security summit and all of the nations who have undeclared nukes, including Israel, are skipping out?

I think it's high time that we take another look at Israel, the mother of false flag operations.



The reason we have these imaginable views among our selves is because how the authority and media phrases its arguments towards Iran. What we are being told makes us think. But we can only think subjectively about this because we have no knowledge or authority.

Most of the theories so far in this post is based on assumptions from media and political authority.



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