No substance to the UK Election Campaign??, page 2
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reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 05:18 AM by Bunken Drum
reply to post by belial259
I dont see how more points of view & contention leads to more corruption. Just the opposite imo. The more consensus there is, the more opportunity for MPs to turn a blind eye to each other's failings. In fact that is what we have seen.
What we need is a damn good argument about the direction this country is going in. We're not getting that out of the crew we've got now. There will be a huge influx of new MPs this parliament & there will be tough times economically, so perhaps we can drive the agenda somewhat.


reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 07:25 AM by thoughtsfull
reply to post by boaby_phet



I am unsure why they are making it so pointless or does that reflect the will of the British people at the moment???..

Not long ago each side had a strong points of view on the economy, on immigration, on the EU, and even on expenses, points of view that seem to have turned to vapor now the Election campaign is here..

I'm seriously begining to feel a hung parliment actually reflects the will of the British people at the moment.


reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 08:04 AM by boaby_phet
reply to post by thoughtsfull



i agree! i dont think anyone cares as everyone knows its a big charade anyway!


reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 09:00 AM by Elliot
Whoever is going to win has probably already been decided......as it is either Labour or Conservative and so exactly the same as always.

And so the slow and inevitable destruction of the United Kingdom, of Great Britain of what once used to be a lovely and even a wonderful place to live continues.....unabated.

We cannot wake our brothers and sisters up as they are glued to the God Tel-Hi and if not they are sat on 'My Face' enjoying hours upon hours of pointless and fruitless existence and slowly but surely the rug of their 'security' is pulled from under them.

One morning they and hence we will wake up and find that if we are female we must wear a burkha to cover our 'shame' of being female and if we are male we must get down to the Mosque immeadiately for indoctrination.

And so, as much as I love my muslim neighbours who came here to escape the above tyranny and yet chose to luxuriate in it once they realised 'bonus points' were awarded in the UK for being 'different' in any way from the indiginous population, they understandably wore their 'difference' as a badge of honour.

Bonus points are paid for any form of 'offence' that may be incurred whether they are imagined or real but some of us are just plain old fashioned English and too honourable to pretend to have some kind of difference that could give up 'bonus points' and so are battered into the ground and inevitable oblivion by the difference of those who came here to be like us but found the price was too high and not worth paying.

The election is boring, because it is MEANT to be boring.

No parties other than the three main contenders are given a voice on the MSM because of the risk that some of us, or even enough of us might wake up and realise that it really is possible to wake up from this living hell we are slowly but surely being pushed into.

There are other parties but they are just called 'Others' and the majority of the dumbed down UK public are either too idle or too ignorant to take a look and see that there are other less well trodden paths that we can take.

Slowly and surely, like cattle, the public is herded gently and kindly towards the abattoir where the plan is complete extermination of a dumbed down and mentally unathletic nation.

There are NO fireworks in this election because you cannot risk the population waking up and looking around or even thinking.

Labour or Conservative, Blue or Red are the only mantras!

I know! I've spoken to British people and there is not much going on in the minds of the vast majority.

I would say that only 5% of the popoulation have their brains switched on in the morning and the rest are distracted by all the distractions that have been designed for that very purpose.

So! Wake up people!

But I know I'm wasting my time........perhaps I aught to emigrate!

But what will happen to this lovely green island of Avalon in a bright blue sea?

[edit on 12-4-2010 by Elliot]


reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 09:29 AM by thoughtsfull
reply to post by Bunken Drum



Cheers for the link

I will have to read through it in more detail later... but seems someone is doing something to try to turn this around.


reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 09:35 AM by thoughtsfull
reply to post by electrobadgr



I know quite a few people who are a tad upset the monster raving loony party is no longer putting forward candidates, since that is where they would like to place their vote.. and to be honest I can't fault them on that approach..

I've been polling people I know, and most either can not be bothered to vote, or simply voting to ensure x party doesn't get in... what a sad state of affairs.


reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 09:40 AM by electrobadgr
reply to post by thoughtsfull



Yeah, my mate has been trying to get me to tactical vote for Labour so the Tories don't get back in. He can remember all the # with Thatcher in the 80's and thinks the Thatcher Era is responsible for where we are now, I've tried to explain to him that there is a bigger picture going on and it goes beyond Labour and Conservative, whoever wins, we lose as far as i am concerned. Tell your friends that in the absence of the MRL party, Deek Jackson from FKN news is running as the Landless Peasants Party, he's got to be worth a vote:-)



reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 09:51 AM by thoughtsfull
reply to post by electrobadgr



Tactical voting seems like a excuse for not having a clue who to vote for.. and who can blame people for feeling that way..

Thanks for the tip.. will have a look at that party


reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 09:56 AM by thoughtsfull
reply to post by abcdef



I can't help but have deep miss givings about using such phrases as "Presidential" debates..

Kinda feels like we are being set up to see our leaders as presidents..

Your other main points are spot, in this is a media organised event that will only forward question the media/Establishment want to answer..

Who will they spin into being the next PM??

What I am fearfull of is that we'll start seeing more teleprompters *shudders*


reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 10:17 AM by Bunken Drum
reply to post by thoughtsfull
These are the 5 points that POWER 2010 want candidates to pledge to support in parliament:
1. Introduce a proportional voting system
2. Scrap ID cards and roll back the database state
3. A fully elected second chamber
4. English votes on English laws

5. A Written Constitution

These were the top 5 issues voted for by the public out of a shortlist of 29.
www.power2010.org.uk...
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