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Originally posted by joey_hv
The short form ifs for those that don't have an original long form on file...ahem..cough! cough!..for one reason or another...
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by Masterjaden
We have officials from two locations stating that he was born in two different locations. I would think that THAT alone would be enough to allow for further discovery????
Nope. You have one official left incharge of birth right in Hawaii, somebody with definate access to birth records, who verified Obama's birth in Hawaii. Then you have an official who is not under authority of the matter of birth making a one off comment to a topic entirely different.
There is a clear difference between somebody verifying Obama's birth, and another person using assumption in a discussion that has little to nothing to do with Obama's birth.
Likewise I agree, it would be good for the Kenyan official to clarify what he was saying and where his conclusion came from.
Originally posted by joey_hv
Wrong,
IF you lost your original BC it is because you took it out to show someone and didn't keep it in a safe place. What Ms. Gunderson should have done for her little boy was to apply at city court for a duplicate copy of your original BC, it is a photocopy of your original but it has a stamp that says "copy" on it. it is considered just as good as the original.
Originally posted by Masterjaden
You failed to even see the reason WHY he wouldn't be eligible
Bruce Lee wouldn't be eligible for POTUS, not because he wasn't born here, but because he was a citizen of another country. Dual citizenship makes you ineligible to be POTUS....
Barry has had dual citizenship
like the one I had to show to play little league, get into elementary school, get my driver's license, enter the military
Originally posted by Masterjaden
The statement made by the hawaiian official gave NOTHING other than opinion...
I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.
I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago,” Fukino said, in hopes of ending the controversy surrounding Obama’s citizenship.
Done on this topic...
Originally posted by gwydionblack
What is even worse is the fact that it has gotten to the point where people will refuse - FLAT OUT REFUSE
Originally posted by gwydionblack
What is even worse is the fact that it has gotten to the point where people will refuse - FLAT OUT REFUSE to even acknowledge the information provided in the topics and dismiss it as "Oh no another birther claim" or "Birther's beating a dead horse".
Honestly, do any of you know how IGNORANT you sound? 90% of you would much rather flame and derail then even attempt to comment or debunk such claims that you feel so strongly against..
Originally posted by gwydionblack
What is even worse is the fact that it has gotten to the point where people will refuse - FLAT OUT REFUSE to even acknowledge the information provided in the topics and dismiss it as "Oh no another birther claim" or "Birther's beating a dead horse".
Honestly, do any of you know how IGNORANT you sound? 90% of you would much rather flame and derail then even attempt to comment or debunk such claims that you feel so strongly against.
Originally posted by OldDragger
The obsession with the birthe certificate has crossed over into insanity.
There is allways a percentage of nuts on any given subject, the birthers are clearly in the catagory of nuts,
You keep saying that it's not about race, it's about his policy, so why don't you give up the Kenya crap and debate policy.
THIS IS REALLY GETTING TO BE A BORE! YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELVES LOOK LIKE IDIOTS!
EHOUGH!
Originally posted by gwydionblack
1. Obama is not a native American and is trying to hide that fact.
2. Obama is a native American and has chosen to keep the information private as to impose even more separation among the masses.
Originally posted by gwydionblack
reply to post by Southern Guardian
Yes hypocrisy stems from both sides,
But to outright deny what this man was saying and ASSUME
And do you know what I see? I see a lot of hidden agendas, missing documents,
1. Obama is not a native American and is trying to hide that fact.
WE ARE BEING PLAYED BY THIS ISSUE
Originally posted by doublehelix
As a previous poster alluded to... sure, he was elected but if the constitution can be ignored then we are in trouble. The citizenship and natural born citizenship clauses were put in the constitution to protect us from foreign influence/takeover, and it's strange how hard some fight against those protections just because they are enamored by the guy.
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