Kenyan official: Obama born in KENYA

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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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Well straight from a Government Official in Kenya "OBAMA was born in Kenya

Still no proof of American Citizenship, almost $2,000,000 spent locking his records secret.


www.wnd.com...

A Kenyan lawmaker told the nation's Parliament last month that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore "not even a native American."

During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, James Orengo, the country's minister of lands and a member of parliament for the Ugenya constituency, cited America's election of a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse peoples unite:

"If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation," Orengo posited, "how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?"

Orengo held up the U.S. as a country no longer "living in the past," since Americans elected a Kenyan-born president without regard to "ethnic consideration and objectives."

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Debate is then recorded in the Kenyan government's official March 25, 2010, hansard – a traditional name for printed transcripts of a parliamentary debate – as continuing with no other MPs mentioning or attempting to correct Orengo's comments about Obama.




en.wikipedia.org...

James Orengo, (James Jimmy-Jimmy Owadgi Adhiambo Orengo) is a lawyer and former presidential candidate in Kenya. He comes from Ugenya Constituency of Siaya District; he was educated at Ambira Primary School and the Alliance High School. He is law graduate of the University of Nairobi where he was the student body president in his final year. He graduated in 1974. James Orengo is well known for his fight against unjust rule. He has spent a good number of years in detention and is viewed by many young upcoming politicians as a role model. Orengo was among the Young Turks who brought about the what can be considered as the second liberation, when he, Michael Wamalwa Kijana, Kiraitu Murungi, Paul Muite and a bunch of old guards like Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, Masinde Muliro and Martin Shikuku formed the formidable Forum for the Restoration of Democracy, a vehicle that nearly (thanks on KANU's side, to the disunity amongst FORD Luminaries) pushed KANU out of power. Orengo ran for presidency in 2002 for the Social Democratic Party, but finished fourth with just 0.4% of the votes. His party lost all of its parliamentary places, as many SDP:s leading figures had joined the NARC coalition. Orengo has been formerly an MP for FORD-Kenya. He is a founding-member of Muungano wa Mageuzi (Movement for Change), a cross party lobby group.

As of 2007 he is still the SDP chairman. The party supported Raila Odinga of Orange Democratic Movement at the 2007 general elections.[1]

In the 2007 elections Orengo won the Ugenya Parliamentary seat thus proving his return to Kenyan politics on ODM ticket. He had been in cold since the 2002 elections after losing the seat to Arcbishop Stephen Ondiek. In the post-election crisis, Orengo served as one of four spokesmen for the Orange Democratic Movement in its attempts to settle its dispute with the Party of National Unity following the disputed presidential elections in Kenya in 2007.[1]

Orengo has since been sworn in as a Minister for Lands in the new Coalition Government formed by the National Accord Act of 2008. This is his first stint as a cabinet Minister. The minister recently discovered the sale of the Grand Regency hotel at 2.7 billion Kenyan Shillings (approximately $30 million US). He managed to blow the whistle when the transfer of the land ownership from the Central Bank of Kenya to the new Libyan owners was accomplish under the direction of Amos Kimunya, finance minister. This has set off the Grand Regency Scandal.

Mr. James Orengo is also determined to bring to an end political Injustices as far as Allocation and Acquisition of Land ias concerned and through his ministry, he intends to enact the national Land Policy and also to sdieze back all Public Land that was allegedly grabbed by powerful politicians.== References ==

[edit on 11-4-2010 by OpTiMuS_PrImE]



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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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He said that because he is misinformed.

Perhaps he has Fox News on his cable provider.

Seriously? How is this even remotely evident of anything? How would this guy know where Obama was born? He made a mistake. Maybe there are birthers in Kenya too!

As for your other video.... been debunked here....


www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 11-4-2010 by spinalremain]


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Better yet, where is his evidence.

I think I need the long form website to confirm this story.


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:42 PM
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Are you people still doing this? Listen, he is president, and if you can not handle it, then I suggest you simply move away.


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:46 PM
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The obsession with the birthe certificate has crossed over into insanity.
There is allways a percentage of nuts on any given subject, the birthers are clearly in the catagory of nuts,

You keep saying that it's not about race, it's about his policy, so why don't you give up the Kenya crap and debate policy.
THIS IS REALLY GETTING TO BE A BORE! YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELVES LOOK LIKE IDIOTS!
EHOUGH!


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:52 PM
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IDIOT ,NUTCASE I AM, maybe the Kenyan lawmaker has seen his birth certificate from Mumbasa hospital. not letting it go that easy


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:56 PM
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the coverup is obvious,it has nothing to do with obama being a black man, its about lies ,deceit,


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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Maybe if some of you democrats helped out a little bit, this issue would have been resolved a long time ago. But no, you all drag it out to give yourselves something to talk about.
With all the CRAP that they have been spewing to the public about "terrorism" and such, you would think that they would have the same concern for a man running our country. Full backround check, and enima if needed, something is blocking up the flow of information.


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Common Good
Maybe if some of you democrats helped out a little bit, this issue would have been resolved a long time ago. But no, you all drag it out to give yourselves something to talk about.


Helped out with what?

The state of Hawaii has already said he was a citizen.
Every other claim has turned out to be a hoax or just a rumor.

Helping out at this point would be enabling a psychosis.

You can't come up with a outlandish conspiracy theory then blame those who don't believe it for the reason you have no concrete proof.

You make the claim, you provide the evidence.
You don't find any, then consider the possibility that it doesn't exist.

- Lee


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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need to spot Disinfo agents, provacateurs, Cointel pro?

This is a good way to get them out in the open for identification, observe for yourselves they run amuck before your eyes anyways back to the subject still no real proof he is a US citizen








[edit on 11-4-2010 by OpTiMuS_PrImE]



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:20 PM
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What do birthers want? His birth certificate has already been shown; you can find it using the google. Even if Obama showed it to the world media, you would not believe it. Do you expect him to mail you the certificate so you can examine it for yourself?


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:20 PM
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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
He said that because he is misinformed.


Yeah, and the American people were misinformed about WMD's in Iraq, too. And we were misinformed about the Gulf of Tonkin, only to find out 30 years later from a congressional research service report that the incident never happened. Misinformed. Yeah, let's talk about that word, and what it means. It just depends on who's doing the informing, and what agenda they have behind the information they spew. Same with Roswell. Yeah, right- misinformed. Iran contra. Let's talk about misinformed. Georgia-Russia. Yeah misinformed alright.

If we listened to people like you, and did not dig out the truth ourselves, you'd have us exactly where you want us: All dead.


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:25 PM
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Hummm just read about this, the statement is telling,


"If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation," Orengo posited, "how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?"


Yup it is documented, he said it,

en.wikipedia.org...


James Orengo, (James Jimmy-Jimmy Owadgi Adhiambo Orengo) is a lawyer and former presidential candidate in Kenya. He comes from Ugenya Constituency of Siaya District; he was educated at Ambira Primary School and the Alliance High School. He is law graduate of the University of Nairobi where he was the student body president in his final year. He graduated in 1974. James Orengo is well known for his fight against unjust rule. He has spent a good number of years in detention and is viewed by many young upcoming politicians as a role model. Orengo was among the Young Turks who brought about the what can be considered as the second liberation, when he, Michael Wamalwa Kijana, Kiraitu Murungi, Paul Muite and a bunch of old guards like Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, Masinde Muliro and Martin Shikuku formed the formidable Forum for the Restoration of Democracy, a vehicle that nearly (thanks on KANU's side, to the disunity amongst FORD Luminaries) pushed KANU out of power. Orengo ran for presidency in 2002 for the Social Democratic Party, but finished fourth with just 0.4% of the votes. His party lost all of its parliamentary places, as many SDP:s leading figures had joined the NARC coalition. Orengo has been formerly an MP for FORD-Kenya. He is a founding-member of Muungano wa Mageuzi (Movement for Change), a cross party lobby group.

As of 2007 he is still the SDP chairman. The party supported Raila Odinga of Orange Democratic Movement at the 2007 general elections.[1]

In the 2007 elections Orengo won the Ugenya Parliamentary seat thus proving his return to Kenyan politics on ODM ticket. He had been in cold since the 2002 elections after losing the seat to Arcbishop Stephen Ondiek. In the post-election crisis, Orengo served as one of four spokesmen for the Orange Democratic Movement in its attempts to settle its dispute with the Party of National Unity following the disputed presidential elections in Kenya in 2007.[1]

Orengo has since been sworn in as a Minister for Lands in the new Coalition Government formed by the National Accord Act of 2008. This is his first stint as a cabinet Minister. The minister recently discovered the sale of the Grand Regency hotel at 2.7 billion Kenyan Shillings (approximately $30 million US). He managed to blow the whistle when the transfer of the land ownership from the Central Bank of Kenya to the new Libyan owners was accomplish under the direction of Amos Kimunya, finance minister. This has set off the Grand Regency Scandal.


Doesn't seem to be so stupid to not know what he is talking about.


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:25 PM
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No, but I expect to see the BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not a Certificate of Live Birth that was available to ANYONE living in HI regardless of where in the world they were born. Sounds pretty simple, eh?



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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Did you expect any other president to show his certificate? Why on earth would the puppetmasters put forward a candidate who is not American? That would be a monumentally easy to dismantle them. No, they put forward candidates who can bring in the votes.


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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Perhaps he has Fox News on his cable provider.


For one thing FOX doesn't push the birther issue at all, just the opposite.


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:28 PM
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Funny, why are no birthers asking to see a Kenyan birth certificate as proof of this claim? I thought is was not just some lunatic fringe closed minded nonsense and yet...you just believe any claim about Kenya with no birth certificate?

Please tell me you see the irony.



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by kozmo
 


Did you expect any other president to show his certificate? Why on earth would the puppetmasters put forward a candidate who is not American? That would be a monumentally easy to dismantle them. No, they put forward candidates who can bring in the votes.


This always gets brought up and Yes McCain had to prove his illegibility to run for president, and Obama was the one pushing the issue


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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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I expect EVERY president to show his Birth Certicate! I have to show mine when I get a job, a marriage license or a driver's license and I'm not even applying for the job of Commander-in-Chief of the worlds largest, powerful military! We have a Constitution for a reason! I expect the politicians running for office to at least be eligible and I demand to know - after all, I pay his salary!!!




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