The New Religion

The New World Order

While not everyone on ATS can agree on the particulars, and just what the ramifications, motives and final outcome, most if not all of us can agree, that there is some struggle for empire of epic proportions, taking place right now.

Some feel it’s Biblical Prophecy, others an end of an Age, some believe it to be a conspiracy of men, and man alone dating back thousands or years or more, in order to create a One World Government and a New World Order, some consider forces of Darkness and Evil, and Good and Light are colliding, some even believe Alien Species from Other Worlds or even Other Dimensions are at play and involved, while some just see an unconnected series of random events based on greed, power and desire.

While we might not agree on just what is transpiring, we all believe something is transpiring.

Many believe one war or another it is going to lead to a radical change in government and how we live our lives here on Earth.

Most people who feel this believe there will be a New One World Religion, to go along with a New One World Government, and a New One World Currency.

So that got me thinking, what kind of religion that would really be. Some theories abound on this, from being something dark and Luciferian, to being a virtual Nirvana created by a second coming of a prophet or savior, and what close to 2/3rds of the Planet currently considers being the One and True God.

While 2/3rds of the Planet does believe this basic principle, most if not all of them, tend to disagree on precisely how to live in order to appease and gain that God’s Grace.

We all assume that the New Religion will be forced on us and created by someone or something we might not all agree with.

But what if we could come up with a New Religion, Ourselves, that we All could agree on?

What should that religion be like? What should it encompass?

If we had to have a religion what would we the People really like it to be?

The Dawning of the Age of Aquarius

Like it or not, throughout the Ages we have seen Religions, and Religious attitudes and perspectives, drastically and radically change at times of monumental world upheavals in Empire.

We have seen Grecian, Babylonian, Egyptian, Persian and Roman Deities come and go as their Empires rose and fell.

While elsewhere in the world Sanskrit, Taoist, Buddhist, Shinto, and Hindu Empires, rise and fall during the ages, for an age, also with their own philosophies on Life and the Universe, often replete with their own Parthenon of Deities.

Still Empires in the Americas of the Aztec, Inca, Toltec, Hopi have risen and fallen too during the ages, for an age, with their own unique philosophies on Life and the Universe as well, with their own Deities and ways to worship.

Meanwhile more Nomadic and Tribal People like the Norsemen and North American Indians and Pacific and Caribbean Islanders whose way of life also lasted an Age had their own unique take on these things too.

Change some say is inevitable, and what we have seen, whether we like it or not, is Religions and Philosophies Change with the Age.

As the Age of Aquarius arrives along with these monumental changes in Empire and Government we see, how do we really want to see ourselves moving forward, what are the philosophies we really want to embrace and the values we really stand for?

What could we all agree on? Because we really feel that way, because we feel its truly right, and right for us, and not just because such and such Deity, Prophet, Gospel, or Political Authority says its right?

How as a species do we really want to see ourselves? How do we want to perceive the Universe?

The New Heroes

Every Great Empire and War that changes the World as we know it has its heroes, from Achilles to Gilgamesh, Caesar and so forth, and often their ideals end up becoming or being made a reflection of our own.

While one person’s hero is an another person’s villain it is not just Warriors but Prophets from Plato and Socrates, to Jesus and Mohamed, and so on and so forth who become our heroes’ and those we would emulate.

There are bound to be new Heroes in a World radically altered in its Governance through War and other upheaval.

What will really constitute a Hero to us, what qualities do we truly all admire?

For surely as in times past, their own perspectives, and perceptions will be written into a New Religion forced upon us, what then will the Hero of the Great Upheaval really look like, for us to really believe in our heart of hearts and soul of souls they are Hero?

Christians, Muslims and Jews

We know you exist, we know you believe, we even know you love to believe, we even know you need to believe, and you all believe in so many very similar things when it comes to your notions of God and the Universe, but those things you can’t agree on, yet remain so pronounced in how you perceive and interact with one another and get along.

What could you in essence all just agree upon as a bare minimum, to get along, so all of us could keep on keeping on?

If you had to leave your God out of the decision making process, and in your heart of hearts simply look for what all could easily agree is right, what would that be?

Not how you think God might want it, but how you would want it?

Techno Mages and Mystics

While science and skeptics abound, and the science of skepticism abounds, many people do feel that Mystic Forces are at play and involved in Spiritualities involved with the current Religions and possibly even the Old Religions.

Yet soon technology is going to reach a level, where it too might be able to accomplish some very magical, and incredibly powerful things, that might in fact be able to critically effect how we see the world, and interact with it and one another, and with authority and government.

It won’t be in everyone’s hands, but just a chosen few, they could in theory end up having tremendous power over us with technological devices that influence and could interact with our very minds.

Some feel, Sorcerers, Occultists, Mystics and some Priests might already enjoy great power channeled from some yet to be fully revealed and understood source, which might already be affecting us.

Technology one way or another is bound to through science, perhaps in our lifetime if it has not already make these things possible.

Whose hands should such power be in, what Guiding Principles and Philosophies would we really want one of those chosen few to espouse?

When?

When are we, or are we ever going to become Masters of our own Destinies and determine these things for ourselves, amongst ourselves, instead of being reliant, and then injured because these things are instead Dictated to us.

So…

If there must be a New One World Religion, what should it really be like? Who would be the Heroes of these New Gospels, how would we define our place in the Universe and perceive it? What would our Philosophies towards Life be and what should constitute what is good or evil? Who should be in charge, and should anyone, what would the rituals be, and where and how ought they to take place? How should it be supported in thought, and deed, and in endowment and empowerment?

What should the New World Religion that all shared be like, if you could write it?





[edit on 10/4/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

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The new religion would conclude that God's existence is irrelevant.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


thoughtful thread............
but they already have a new world religion and it is luciferian. alice bailey and lucis trust has written the blueprint. love the lie-ght

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This planet can't generate a new Messiah. We are left here like bugs crawling around a sewer eating each other.

Originally posted by SirPsychoSexy
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

The new religion would conclude that God's existence is irrelevant.

Would that be safe to say then, that you would agree that there is A God and just One God but that we as Humans should not, and don’t have to be under that Yoke for any reason.

In other words God exists, but simply plays no role, by agreement and understanding in how we live and govern our affairs?

Believe it or not that could be something those who are currently religious might be able to accept. No one in essence would be saying God didn’t exist, but the fact that God does exist, doesn’t mean God has or wants power over our collective destiny or lifestyles or way of life?

I wonder if those who are presently religious could agree and accept that, it might solve a lot of problems, and frictions if they could!

Religion on this planet is all about divide and rule.Its all psychocybernetics input-output,we choose our religious meme(or contagion)be it Christianity,Islam or whatever then purchase the software programme the Bible,Quoran ,books texts etc then input it usually with the guidance of a Bible School,Madrassa or whatever trusting the clergy to program us properly.

All major religions on this planet have an archon false reality matrix which we can tune into and do tune into as our ego invests more time effort and energy it will gravitate towards the false reality ascribed to it via synchronicities,dreams perhaps even visions etc with all these reproofs our egos are convinced we haved homed in on 'the truth'.

Most of humanity is invested in this system which keeps us closed minded and ignorant and in servitude,the powers that be get power,control,real estate and money in return.With Christianity there are three main branches the Catholics which end up with the black pope and the jesuits,the religious right most of whom go via the Reverend Moon to the Rockerfellers and the anglican section with the Queen as their head ending up with the Rothschilds.

So just like government,education and politics TPTB own the worlds religions and use them to enslave the human race.

For the future I would say dispense with religion and teach wisdom,there are very few unpoluted texts on earth such as the 81 poems of the Tao Te Ching.

There already is a universal religion that has been practiced since the dawn of man and will always be practiced in countless forms. It is found both inside and outside every form of all major religions, and it is not at all sinister or related to the NWO, etc. It goes under thousands of names but its beating heart is the same in all times and places.

Originally posted by IandEye
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

thoughtful thread............
but they already have a new world religion and it is luciferian. alice bailey and lucis trust has written the blueprint. love the lie-ght

Well this might sound crazy but I was thinking we could write a New One, All of us, by thinking of what we would really like, be willing to accept or tolerate in a New Religion.

I mean, as it ever occurred to anyone, that we get these dubious and unwanted religions forced on us, during upheavals like this, because we really haven’t bothered to come up with one of our own, on our own, that we could all agree on?

No matter how silly your philosophies might seem, or how serious, or what your perspectives are, what would you really like to see incorporated, free Budweiser Nights, a Day of Fasting and Cleansing, Jell-O Wrestling, or Meditation and Philosophical Readings, it doesn’t matter, other than it would make sense to you, MEAN something to you, and POSSIBLY be something we might all either ENJOY or TOLERATE?

I understand if you might not want to share something you might consider that personal, but if you could make the Religion, what would it look like, be like?

This really interests me, you know the novel idea of the people actually being heard and having a say.

Call me crazy, but I am curious!

Thanks for posting.

Originally posted by chorizo4
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This planet can't generate a new Messiah. We are left here like bugs crawling around a sewer eating each other.

Well if the planet could generate a New Messiah, what would a Messiah hopefully do, to make the world a better place for you and all of us?

What kind of person would he be, what would he stand for and believe in, what would be the methods he really ought to use, or heck, even she ought to use, or even we ought to use, to usher in a new era of Peace, Plenty and Prosperity.

What would you do if you were that Messiah or had to be that Messiah, help a brother out here and dare to dream?

Share too, if you feel it appropriate for you. I would love to hear.

Thanks for posting.

reply to post by anglodemonicmatrix

For the future I would say dispense with religion and teach wisdom,there are very few unpoluted texts on earth such as the 81 poems of the Tao Te Ching.

So a religion, based on not having a religion, but instead a series of philosophies and disciplines put forth as doctrines?

Would this be something voluntary or mandatory in your best estimation for this kind of system to work as a New Religion?

Originally posted by silent thunder
There already is a universal religion that has been practiced since the dawn of man and will always be practiced in countless forms. It is found both inside and outside every form of all major religions, and it is not at all sinister or related to the NWO, etc. It goes under thousands of names but its beating heart is the same in all times and places.

Any chance you might share with us say just a handful or less of the most importing guiding points there related to it, so people could see if there are some simple principles they could agree with?

We might have to merge a few different ideas together to make everyone happy.

What would be the most important things to add?

Thanks for posting.

This is a wonderful thread, and it is so well written. I'm going to star and flag it. Assuming S&F are operational right now.

Concerning the actual topic at hand, I don't think a One World Religion should be practiced. Take away our diversity, creativity and intellectual explorations and you remove everything that makes us human. Religion should continue to be a free practice, whether a One World Government takes over or not.

Let the atheist among us continue to debate and deny, let the skeptics have their tests and trials.

Let the faithfully religious congregate and convene amongst their Temples, Shrines, Churches, Chapels, Cathedrals and Mosques.

Let the pagans and the spiritualists have their sacred spaces in the great outdoors.

But, and here's the important part, let to each his own choice be made on what is the proper way. Instead of "removing" religion, the goal should be to unite religions peacefully. Let the Buddhist and the Christian have their place, let the Taoist, Shintoist and Shaman have his or her own too.

It shouldn't be about the one. We should resist the one, if it ever rears it's ugly head. Embrace the many.

What I currently envisage as a one world-religion is one with an 'ideal world/ideal inhabitants' as its theme and central focus, one in which ideals are aspired to and not an external god-figure to be worshipped

I can actually 'see' it on the screen on my mind. Individuality will be regarded as an aberration. The hive-mind will triumph

To those of us alive today, those of this future-world would appear 'robotic'

Every aspect of life would be organised from above. Populations would be compliant. The focus would be upon conformity, harmony

The new god/new religion would be the continued, harmonious functioning and progress of the planet and its inhabitants

Surprisingly, I find this vision to be pleasant

reply to post by Wandering Scribe

But, and here's the important part, let to each his own choice be made on what is the proper way. Instead of "removing" religion, the goal should be to unite religions peacefully. Let the Buddhist and the Christian have their place, let the Taoist, Shintoist and Shaman have his or her own too.

It shouldn't be about the one. We should resist the one, if it ever rears it's ugly head. Embrace the many.

So then, in other words, a return to the principles of previous Ages where different national, ethnic, and regional Deities and Beliefs were respected, and considered sacrosanct and inviolate even when not shared.

We all respect, that you respect that and the power in and of __________?

That might be a real solution if we could get people to truly respect and not dominate or want to attempt to dominate in what has been the standard lack of regard for this present age.

I wonder if people could agree on this, it certainly would allow for a lot more flexibility for everyone wouldn’t it?

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

99 percent of this planets spirit world dedicates itself to bull#ing the adherents of various faiths the other one percent exist to torment and punish those who either develop skills and abilities not under TPTB control,who expose corruption in high places or who piss off TPTB in some way.

This is done via psychotronic warfare,ectronic harrassment and spiritual psychic and magic attack-with whatever same # recycled Mc Happy Jesus bull# TPTB dream up it still will use earthly principalities and powers to enslave the masses,what Im insinuating is that the human race accepts responsibilty for itself and acknowledges the real truth that the highest authority does not lie beyond its own forehead if this happened the evil religious systems of this world would wither and die and no longer be a pox and vexation to man.

reply to post by Dock9


Thanks for sharing that Dock9, I appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts on what would be ideal for them.

In that regard, there probably are no rights or wrongs.

So you see harmony through uniformity and trustable ultimate authority determining that as the way to go, based on a collective and shared concept of right and wrong on the simplest, base level?

Thanks for sharing.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Originally posted by chorizo4
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This planet can't generate a new Messiah. We are left here like bugs crawling around a sewer eating each other.

Well if the planet could generate a New Messiah, what would a Messiah hopefully do, to make the world a better place for you and all of us?

What kind of person would he be, what would he stand for and believe in, what would be the methods he really ought to use, or heck, even she ought to use, or even we ought to use, to usher in a new era of Peace, Plenty and Prosperity.

What would you do if you were that Messiah or had to be that Messiah, help a brother out here and dare to dream?

Share too, if you feel it appropriate for you. I would love to hear.

Thanks for posting.

For a positive note. A new Messiah could be born on Mars. Not kidding.

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Alright then a Martian Messiah would be key in your Religion.

Now could it be a human born on Mars, or does it have to be an actual member of some indeginious species to Mars.

Would this require us all learning to speak a new language, it's language?

The New Religion

Should focus on worshiping and advancing self.
Should focus on making humanity work as one.
The conception of oneness with "All That There is" should be universally acknowledged and accepted. (If the universe is infinity only unity with "all that there is" can exist)






[edit on 11-4-2010 by GrandKitaro777]

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I think that getting people to agree on what is best, is not possible. But what is best is to let everyone agree to their own thing. Especially when it comes to belief and faith. Guiding someone's hand does not dictate that they really share in that faith. I am from a family of Catholics, but my own choice has been spiritualism, paganism, the occult, and to a certain degree some skepticism and at times atheism. So really it's about letting everyone decide for themselves, and then having that decision be relevant to only them. If they feel joining a congregation is the way, more power to them. If not, let the "shaman" go off on their own to discover their own meanings.

But I digress. Certain beliefs are built upon the desire to bring everyone on the planet into the flock, so my view just isn't possible without a paradigm change in humanity as a whole.