Polish Plane Crash, Coincidence or Convenient?

Originally posted by charlie_the_loafer
One thing is for sure.

Poland , they way it looked until the crash, was a major incovenient for many , they were against the International Monetary Fund , the were against many directions tried to be imposed by the european union , they were against abuses coming from big powers , some can say they were even against the many of the US actions in south eastern europe.

And guess what : " On 1 July 2011, Poland will hold the Presidency in the Council of the European Union" . That is almost 1 year from now...

Is this true? If it is true then ...I wonder if the USSR is about to request admittance into the EU?

Hitler feared the Russians as did Britain, France,the USA, the whole world.
THe poles were naive in thinking they were not still pawns.

Originally posted by Dr Conspire

Originally posted by charlie_the_loafer
One thing is for sure.

Poland , they way it looked until the crash, was a major incovenient for many , they were against the International Monetary Fund , the were against many directions tried to be imposed by the european union , they were against abuses coming from big powers , some can say they were even against the many of the US actions in south eastern europe.

And guess what : " On 1 July 2011, Poland will hold the Presidency in the Council of the European Union" . That is almost 1 year from now...

Is this true? If it is true then ...I wonder if the USSR is about to request admittance into the EU?

Hitler feared the Russians as did Britain, France,the USA, the whole world.
THe poles were naive in thinking they were not still pawns.

Hi Dr Conspire,


It seems highly unlikely that Russia would seek membership in the EU unless they could in so doing TAKE OVER the EU in a stealth underground International Communist move. That is, unless there has been penetration of the Russian agenda through its GRU military intelligence: let us remember that Vladimir Putin was in charge of Soviet KGB supervision in East Berlin at the time Angela Merkel was a Stasi Agent in charge of Communist Agitation and Propaganda. During the Soviet days Russia was a State Capitalist Totalitarian Government using a nomenclatura of Aparitchics. Today Russia is a State KGB-Mafya Totalitarian Government. Little has changed except for the version of illusions being fed the population and projected by international media.


Here is an update on what the highly informed World Reports has stated about the downing of the Polish Presidential plane:


"(1): President Mikheil Saakashvili of Georgia has stated on a CNN interview that quote 'something incredibly evil was involved here' without elaborating or explaining what he was implying. The interview can be seen at this link: www.youtube.com...

(2): A close examination of the precise terrain WEST of the Smolensk-Severnyi military airport reveals that for an extended area, the terrain is DISTINCTLY LOWER than the airport itself, which is situated on a sort of plateau. The area to the WEST of the military airport is between 100 and 150 feet BELOW the plateau. In THAT case, the plane COULD NOT HAVE SCRAPED THE TOPS OF TREES, unless the trees were about 400 feet high.

(3): The investigation is being carried out under the supervision of Prime Minister Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, a senior GRU (Soviet Military Intelligence) Officer. Since any preplanned sabotage would precisely have been organised by the GRU, the investigation has of course been placed in the hands of the perpetrators, which is standard practice in these cover-up operations, in both the covert Soviet Union and the United States: in case you didn't know.

(4): An article in The Guardian cites a Polish MP who attended the memorial gathering in the Katyn forests, having travelled there by train, who claims that at the time of the alleged 'accident', which occurred just before 11:00 a.m., there were blue skies* over Katyn, which is located about ten miles from the crash site. The Polish MP's remark is found at the end of the article: here's the link:
www.guardian.co.uk...

• See also the following article in the Daily Mail:
www.dailymail.co.uk...

(5): We have had one violently indignant reaction from a Pole who protests too much. Without attaching overmuch importance to this, we suggest that it may imply NERVOUSNESS THAT THE COVER-UP 'LINE' IS FULL OF HOLES. It's news to us that trees grow 400 feet tall in that region.

(6): An Italian source, informazionescorretta.blogspot.com, reported on 14th April as follows:
• Three Russian boys heard and saw an explosion before the crash.

• Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk had already decided to devalue to zloty, contrary to the unwritten and arrogant rule that currencies adjacent to the Eurozone and in competition with the Euro cannot be devalued without the kind permission of Berlin, Paris and Frankfurt.

• At least five of the Polish Ministers who were killed were being investigated for corruption.

• The Military chiefs on the aircraft were mainly overt Communist-era holdovers. They were resisting international pressures and were about to be compelled to resign.

• An aircraft crammed with Polish journalists landed just 40 minutes after the crash, and went straight to Katyn, as though nothing had happened.

(7): The pilot is reported by Polish sources to have been struggling with defective altimeter and airspeed indicators. There are reports that radar revealed that the plane was only 10 metres off the ground, which is inconsistent with the treetop story. It should be noted that a favourite DVD crash stratagem is to fiddle PRECISELY with the altimeter and speed indicators. This is in fact a known hallmark of a DVD OPERATION, raising suspicions of collaboration by foreign intelligence or even of a METABRIDGE OP. (Mossad-CIA-MI-6-DVD), as the Poles had snubbed the IMF over Greece."


NOTE: The "DVD" to which this report refers is the Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst (German Defense Agency), a German underground intelligence organization with secret headquarters in Dachau Germany, actually a Black Nazi Intel Continuum which after WWII penetrated in mass the CIA and has since pulled the strings of most of US Intelligence Agencies, MI-5, the Mossad (how ironic), the German BND and the Al-Qaida terrorist false-flag network. These allegations are pursuant to 40 years of active intelligence reporting and analysis by journalist Christopher Story who happens to be the publisher of "Soviet Analyst" and also collaborated with KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn by publishing "The Perestroika Deception". His insight into Russian intelligence related operations cannot be lightly swept aside.

A bit off topic, but thought id just say that Bronislaw Komorowski, the current acting Polish President.. is in the lead as the nation Votes for a new leader.

Poland was the only European country not affected by the debt crisis. Also, they have not adopted the Euro.

The President was AGAINST the Euro.

Now he's dead.

One of the two candidates wants to adopt the Euro as Poland's currency.

The contest is between Mr Bronislaw Komorowski, the acting president, and Mr Jaroslaw Kaczynski, the twin brother of the late president.

Mr Komorowski, has pledged to adopt the euro and promote pro-market reforms. Mr Kaczynski wants to preserve a strong welfare state and is more sceptical about the euro.

You do the math.

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Hmm.. Its a tougth call on the 'conspiracy' side of things.. But if he didnt want to be in the Euro, and if he was murderd then I suppose you could say TPTB want Komorowski to win, so theyd join the currency... But thats just speculation...

What I find quite weird, is that how their voting for the Ex-presidents twin.
And the media says its only because he's feeding of the Ex-presidents popularity...
Now, I dont know 100% situation at the moment in Poland due to a biased media, but surely they wouldnt vote as if this was a popularity contest...

But there are arguements for both sides.
I think they've got until the 4th of July to count, although, dont quote me on that.

Well just have to see who gets in.

they were against the International Monetary Fund

I will elaborate a bit on that.

About two weeks before the crash the IMF director Dominique Strauss Kahn was in Poland.
In 2009 Poland took a loan from the IMF , loan that they did not touch . As known and as it is expected from the IMF when one country makes a loan it is followed by another.

At the talking that took place in Warszaw the ex governator of the central polish bank explained to Dominique Strauss Kahn that the money is untouched and a 2nd loan will be out of the question.

The ex governor is dead as he was also on the plane. About a week ago a news governor of the polish central bank was elected, a guy that used o work for the IMF , i guess we will see a new loan coming very soon...

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