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Victor shauberger - another suppressed scientist?

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posted on Apr, 10 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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victor shauberger who ive been reading about lately was probably one of hte first environmentalists; but he was an inventor (who was used by Hitler during hte war) and a genius as his inventions could not be understood or replicated by the top hydrologists of the time (his first invention was a log floating device that defied archimedes law etc).

shauberger believed our current science was going against nature (using natures destructive motions) and it would all generally end badly (which it is). the book is 'living water' available from amazon.com. in it he explains how clear felling of forests or even timber farming where a whole lot of trees are felled at once results in rainwater not being able to seep down far enough into the earth; means the trees dont get nutrients coming up out of the earth, and the soil etc whole system is ruined. also deforestation he shows results in watercourses and river systems going haywire. build up the forest; allow the banks of the river to have trees etc natural covering - uninterfered with by humans - and you'll have healthy rivers again. he says rivers are the blood of planet earth equivalent; and if we dry up and destroy our rivers through deforestation etc, we will all starve eventually. (the australian aborigines would already know this, btw). whereas if you pick a few trees to log only - only harvest the INTEREST of the forest and not the CAPITAL - then he says the forest can live, the rivers will live, and so will we.

he also explains how humans need to drink 'LIVING WATER' - which is water that has come down as rain and been underground for a while to absorb nutrients/minerals etc and then comes out of the ground in springs and rivers ready for drinking. (people must know this in the back of their minds as this is why we value 'pure spring water' as the best drinking water). he says rainwater isnt good enough - it hasn't been underground yet to absorb the nutrients; and also underground water is no good; as it hasn't been underground for long enough or 'matured' yet. when its ready to drink, it'll come to the surface via a river or spring for humans to drink. WE SHOULD ALL BE DRINKING CLEAN PURE RIVER OR SPRING WATER ONLY. we should DEFINITELY NOT be treating our water with flouride and chlorine and other nasties. even metal pipes are bad apparantly for carrying water for drinking. it should be carried in wooden pipes or stone chutes. the ancient people he thinks knew more about water than we do today, wiht all our 'science'. read his book for more info on why.

his inventions used observations from nature - e.g. the snake like shape of rivers is not accidental - water flows that way for a reason. rivers should not be straightened artificially and concrete banks should not be built; and also the snake like motion of water he used to transport logs etc via river. (he was a forest warden and grew up in the forest observing nature). He also built ufos (that worked)...(like tesla) and had a few run ins with the govt during the war...




posted on Apr, 10 2010 @ 08:49 AM
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Very interesting.


At the end of the war Schauberger was apprehended by US intelligence agents, and kept in custody for 9 months. They confiscated all his documents and prototypes, and interrogated him to determine his activities during the war.[5]

After the war Schauberger continued his work, leading to water-based power generation through vortex action in a closed cycle, the "Spiral Plough", an "Apparatus for soil cultivation made of copper" and tests with "spiral pipes".



Viktor Schauberger was born in Holzschlag, Austria, to a long line of Austrian foresters that could be traced back to early Germanic tribes,
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Apr, 10 2010 @ 08:53 AM
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Also check out his flying saucer inventions.


also...

[5] - Victor Shauberger (1885 - 1958) was from Australia and was inspired by the energy in mountain streams. In the 1930's Shauberger invented many ideas and devices, including free energy devices and water powered devices for transportation.
www.rense.com...



posted on Apr, 10 2010 @ 10:09 PM
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yeah, its really worth reading his books. if people followed his ideas we could maybe save the planet...still...

he believes that our scientists are using destructive forms of motion which generate heat/are explosive e.g. combustion engine; spliting the atom - led to the atom bomb. while einstein was v smart, schauberger thinks this is the wrong technology to be using to power our industries etc. He thinks we should be looking at the constructive forms of motion found in nature which are of the spiral type - implosion. from these types of motion - which result in levitation - he built flying saucers during the war (was requisitioned by Hitler). he felt that the destructive forms were using up too much energy compared to their output - were not efficient - were plundering the earths resources and polluting the environment etc. whereas if you use the other form of motion you get unlimited/free energy - which he says is evidence this is working in harmony wiht natures constructive forces. not its destructive side..

He's not the only scientist to come up with this - Nicola Tesla and probably Hutchinson seem also to be on the same track.

No doubt the govt does know about these ideas and are building their own ufos with this technology; but WHY or WHY are they allowing the planet to be destroyed in order that they can have more money???

isnt that why these technologies have been kept secret? so the wealthy few (idiots) at the top can keep their money and power?

silly people.. Do they really think there will be a planet left to support them if they dont mend their ways? There is only working with nature; no one can work against its intentions for long...it is a force we are all bound by and part of and governed by; there is no escaping it.



posted on Apr, 10 2010 @ 11:44 PM
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How about pipes with Crater like those that found in Golf balls in it's interiors?



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 04:10 AM
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TPTB hate free energy technology, because it violates their doctrine of scarcity. Because they can't control how much of it the people can have, it makes the people less controllable. However, backlash against their plans is mounting, and perhaps soon the truth will win out.



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 06:24 AM
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just to correct that site, he was from austria, not australia.



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 09:19 PM
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Some strange claims here. The only 1 that I saw that wasn't mystical is the claim that he somehow "defied Archimedes principle." That is a clear misstatement of what he did. He built a flume that was able to transport woods that normally do not float. He didn't make them float. He made them transportable.



posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 05:48 AM
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have you read the book?



posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 07:09 AM
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Which book are you talking about?



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 05:17 AM
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maybe i should change that to, 'did you read my post'?



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 07:38 AM
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I see how you cleverly placed the title several times into the OP. No. I have not read the book.



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 07:51 AM
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Love the work, I have, for a long time now thought that drinking treated dead water is bad for our bodies.
Water gets taken up into the clouds, is 'charged' and falls onto riverbeds or nutrient rich soil. That is the water we should be drinking!



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 08:49 AM
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There have been lots of claims in which people can energize water. This is claimed by homeopathy, companies such as VaVa water, various groups around the world, and who knows who else makes these claims.

If you were given two waters, on dead, and one live, could you figure out which is which? Is there a way to differentiate the waters?



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
I see how you cleverly placed the title several times into the OP. No. I have not read the book.


If you are unfamiliar with Schauberger, or any of his contemporaries in the Weimer Republic, you really need to read up on him. His theories seem strange....but they were critical to the Nazi war machine.



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 02:10 PM
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Why ere they critical to the war machine?



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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Why ere they critical to the war machine?


How about i give you a start, and you spend some time researching the subject:
Google search on "Viktor Schauberger Patents".

Once you get up to speed on him, we can begin discussing Heisenberg and Von Braun. We might even talk about how the US thought they were important enough that they did everything they could to bring the scientists over (Project Paperclip), as well as seizing the patent library of Germany (to be sold piecemeal to US corporations, or squirrelled away from prying eyes).



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