Originally posted by St Udio
ergo, the other 'kings' will share power with the Beast-man for 5 months before the (Beast from the Sea=A.C. ) takes over the Empire
also, in Rev 18:17, it takes (1 hour) for the crushed people of the global community to utterly destroy Babylon, the economic/military Giant...
that 'hour' would entail the same 5 months it took for the AC to share power with the 7 headed Empire.
Right, St Udio, I promised to put some serious reflection into your contribution.
My first task was to try to lay out your "timetable" and mine side by side, in the hope of finding areas of compatibility. The irenic approach.
On the "silence" itself, you consider this to be 75 days, and I'm content to leave it undetermined. No direct
incompatibility there. You
make no comment on my remarks about the period before the silence, so we're still compatible so far.
Things get interesting in the period after the silence.
In my own scheme, this is just the remainder of the period of the Beast- implicitly, the second "half-hour". You may see in a post above that I
concur with Randyus in identifying these as two halves of the seven years. Or, in my case, "seven" years, but that's another story.
If I understand you correctly, you see the 75 days as immediately preceding the second
1260 day period of the Beast, in which case- I think-
we're still fairly compatible. And am I right in thinking that your 5 month period (or is it three five-month periods) are to be included in that
My only comment is that traditional focussing on exact time periods (even if there's no attempt to relate them to dates) seems to make Revelation
interpretation very elaborate- in my opinion, over-elaborate. My approach aims to simplify, simplify.
I'll be putting forward my own view of the Beast at a later date, after debating a number of other passages. I just want to make sure I'm
understanding your presentation properly.
In the two passages quoted above (sorry, I meant to start typing above them), the terminology seems a little confused, but I think that's probably
because you were typing quickly. You distinguish between a 5-month Beast and one taking over later. In the first paragraph, you call the later one the
Beast-from-the-sea (but in ch13 the sea-Beast seems to come first). The term AC is applied to the later one in the first paragraph, and to the
earlier, 5-month power-sharing, one in the second paragraph. But these are all matters of labelling, and could be sorted out with more leisure.
The only real puzzle to me is what you say about Babylon. You seem to distinguish between Babylon and the Beast, saying that Babylon is actually
destroyed by the forerunners of the Beast. This strikes me as unusual, or maybe I'm just out of touch. I'm perfectly content with identifying the
two, and identifying the various descriptions of their destruction.
I'm expecting to produce more threads in this series.
I hope your critical insights will be brought to bear on some of them.
Postscript, because I forgot to notice another area of agreement. Yes, the trumpets and vials in real time progression, no POOF, as you say.I can find
hints about environmental degradation in these passages, the most obvious example being the two versions of the state of the sea - "Like the blood of
a dead man!".
[edit on 11-4-2010 by DISRAELI]