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Originally posted by catfishman
I consider myself a skeptic on most conspiracy related topics, meaning that I don't follow a certain way of conspiratorial thinking just because it sounds intriguing or plausible, however, I have never had a single person that could explain the following to me:
If, like the debunkers on this issue believe, (most) everything we see in the sky today coming from airplanes are regular contrails, then why are those contrails:
a) Just now becoming a conspiracy shared by seemingly millions of people around the entire world? I know you could argue that this is due to the web 2.0 capabilities and us all being connected and this might ultimately give rise to unsubstantiated conspiracies just because it doesn't take much effort to participate. But there should be SOME people, even just a single loon writing a book or something, who would have entertained this concept, that is today fascinating millions on a daily basis both on the internet and in real-life observations, to make some money off of it.
b) Why am I and a LOT of other people absolutely sure that we have never witnessed this phenomenon when we were younger? I am 100% convinced that, being a frequent and fascinated observer of planes in the sky both as a child and growing up, I have NEVER seen multiple "contrails" spanning from horizon to horizon in my childhood, seemingly turning a perfectly blue sky into a grey mush within hours, albeit a forecast of clear skies throughout the day? Let alone on almost a daily basis?
c) Why is it, that in the span of a couple of days, where the temperature barely changes a degree, one day I witness every single plane, no matter the height, only trailing very short, vanishing contrails, while on the next day, I see the same phenomenon mixed with SOME of the planes leaving trails as far as the eye can see, at various heights, while others seem to fly at a similar altitude with no contrails whatsoever?
d) Why do the planes leaving "chemtrails" almost exclusively share the characteristics of being unmarked and white/grey vs. the mostly colourful commercial aircraft, even when you view them with a high-powered zoom lense?
e) Why are mainstream media frequently (at least here in Germany) reporting on "experiments" based on spraying chemicals into the sky for radar deflection or anti-global-warming efforts which seemingly allude to the phenomenon most of us witness in the skies today?
I wrote this up in a genuine quest for answers and to get all the angles on this phenomenon (phenomenon either for having been given birth out of nothing or as a valid observation in the skies), not to spur a debate that has been raging on these forums for a long time.
So please, if someone finds the time to educate me on the "debunkers" view on these questions, go ahead, I am listening.
Originally posted by WWJFKD
If all I'm going to be is a bit itchy and discomforted I'd rather not all the same.
FAIL! MISERABLE FAIL!
I do not feel that they have any right to discomfort me in any way to serve their purposes. I do not authorize the misuse of tax payer funds to discomfort me and make me itchy.
Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by Phage
Some of us KNOW chemtrails are HAPPENING.
The crap they spray hangs over most EVERY CITY like a blanket!
So, wake up! PLEASE..........
Originally posted by HIWATT
Originally posted by Bumr055
reply to post by Phage
So it's less like a bowling ball dropped on my head and more like thousands of golf balls? Thats what you mean by dispersed, right?
What about the effects on grown food?
Glad you brought that up because if you listen to the beginning of that weather broadcast (before he mentions "chaf") he alludes that farmers should "take care of their crops"....
Yes he mentioned that it could get cold overnight but i found that rather interesting considering the totally random bomb he drops about 1:00 in.
Also, before hitting play on the video, run your cursor over the video box, you'll see another message at the bottom/left which seems totally out of place:
WTH is that all about ?!
According to military sources, Chaff is simply a training aid used in specific overland restricted airspace while jets are conducting training. It is not used in the enroute airspace over the continental USA - in other words while flying under the FAA control to and from the bombing range. Likewise, aircraft do not jam radar frequencies unless in an approved piece of Restricted airspace. Dispensing chaff is a training aid used while the jets are performing on the bombing or electronic warfare range, in order to train in one of the avoidance measures a jet can take to break a radar lock from a threat such as a Surface to Air missile...
Most comments from the military will suggest that Chaff is a relic left over from the Vietnam War. However the company that is the primary manufacturer of Chaff in the world may argue that point. From 1996 to 2003 Esterline Technologies based in Bellevue Washingtion has had US defence contracts totalling over $252 million. From 2002-2003 its contracts grew from $36 million to $116 million. Half of the contracts to the Pentagon has been catagorized as "Research and Development".