It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

the states are initially complying with Sam Kennedy\Tim Turners Plan to Restore America

page: 1
6
<<   2 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 07:28 AM
link   
AKA Guardians of a free Republic, issued a update on April 7, 2010..

Initial Response - complying with the requests, what ever those are....?

www.talkshoe.com...

Until we know exactly what was sent to the Governors - I just dont know,
however, the update said the States are Changing to states.
all signs are still go, Tim or Sam Kennedy also talks about what happend and what didnt happen
the morning the story made mainstream. It's a must Listen audio broadcast.
I think I will continue to support this organizations plan to restore America until
I see something I dont agree with. If its the way it was designed to be challenged
so lets challenge the State the way they want to be. and see where it goes.
The MSM as usual took a anti-american stance and called it Anti-Government and tried to tie it to all that they see is working in America.


[edit on 9-4-2010 by Anti-Evil]




posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 08:00 AM
link   
As I understand it, by the end of the month, states will comply or actions will be started to enforce compliance. Not clear who is in charge or really involved. It appears that the "Military" are the one's primarily driving this process. But there does appear to be a real "effort" underway.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 09:27 AM
link   
I think a few undercover CIA agents dead and FBI agents wasted on a couple doorsteps was enough of a message to a few states that these guys meant business and were very well funded and well armed.

The states that are not bowing may be trying to call a bluff and assuming that the manpower needed to enforce the PRA-RAP, this becomes a morally sticky situation as you can see.

At the very least I am afraid that there will be some serious fighting in the near future on our own soil, and perhaps the National Guard will see some real action.

What scares me about this group is how little intel we have on them, and their apparent funding, armament, and intelligence. If these guys start by getting the American people on their side, only to turn into the enemy, we will surely have a bloodbath in America that will make the civil war seem like a bar fight.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 10:59 AM
link   
The fact that a large number of States have suddenly changed their web sites to reflect a change in the way the respective state is spelled is indeed one of the conditions that was on the letters sent to all 50 Governors of every state.
The change from all caps to Upper and lower or just lower is indicative of a change in status from "Corporate" interest to sovereign interest. It also indicates that they are complying with the instructions of the letter and that is a good sign all around.

This message from multiple states indicate that the process is working and at the end of 30 days from when the letters were served, we will have to have an answer coming our way. Lets hope its good news filled with right, moral and decent intentions. I said, let's hope. While I realize I may be asking a lot from the Obama regime, time will tell where this latest change will take us.

With only a few more days before the beginning of the 13 day period commencing from April 19th-May 1st, this is very key 13 day period to watch or be concerned about. By May 1st ,which is by the way the Illuminate date of conception, I for one believe we are going to have an answer from the New World Order Elite regarding all 50 States and something tells me, we aren't going to like it.

May 1st sticks out because if I remember correctly, on May 1st, 2003 George W. Bush Jr. gave his famous Mission Accomplished speech aboard an aircraft carrier in which Bush had flown as passenger and was duded up in pilot gear. While Bush gave a speech to the world, it was what we didn't see that made May 1st the date in which Bush had to give it because while the world watched Bush, in Iraq things were going differently.

Anyway, on May 1st, 2003 while Bush was giving his famous cowboy speech, at the same time someone in Baghdad, Iraq was broadcasting on all channels a live announcement to those listening and in their homes that US Democracy had come to Iraq and that to begin that democracy, the following changes were immediately proclaimed.

All Ministers of Defense, National Intelligence agencies, all paramilitary forces and all of the militia, all officers, all law enforcement, all party members were immediately relieved of their duties. The main political party was dissolved, all military titles, ranks and appointments were suspended and everyone was relieved of duty and told to report to their homes until further notice. A curfew was put into affect and shoot to kill orders issued to anyone going out after curfew.

I found it diabolical and evil that Bush is proclaiming American victory and how much freedom and democracy we were bringing to Iraq. Meanwhile in Iraq, the Iraqi citizens are being told you have been conquered by a foreign Army and all rights and freedoms are suspended until further notice under penalty of death anyone found conspiring to bring harm to American forces will be immediately shot on the spot.

Now it that doesn't catch anyone's eye, then nothing will. Let's hope that in a few days when the 13 day window opens that it doesn't open with a bang and a lot of death and destruction because so far, the fact that the NWO elite have kept this governors letter action so quite and yet so unmentioned is a concern.

We already know that his court jester will be Rahm Emanuel and his evil witch on a stick will be Nancy Pelosi and her flying monkeys will be on call. The Democratic communist socialist Maoist Obama insane clown criminal and corrupt party will do whatever they must to keep power even if that means having to kill a few million of us to make a point.

Thanks for the posting.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 11:06 AM
link   
Ok i want change just as bad as anyone but where are you getting the source from all this info....Dead Feds and compliances by states..where besides the GOTFR web sites and affiliates i need this info to act further



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 11:55 AM
link   
reply to post by Happyfeet
 


I dont know what you are trying to say, but this is purely NON_VIOLENT
legal stuff of one kind or another, no one has read it but the Governors -- I'm told it extremely powerful information. thats all I know. oh, and this is not a ANTI-Government movement its a Pro American Pro-Constitution (which is PRO_Government). common law action.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:08 PM
link   
I'd like toi see some verifiable proof that states changed their websites. that claim smells fishy. And what a hack audio broadcast. Holy crap. A five year old could produce a more professional show.

I'd really love this to be true but I have serious doubts. If this were happening I would think we would have some feedback circling arund the net by now. But all we get is vague, so far un verified claims. Need more solid info.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:45 PM
link   
Wouldn't it be great if non-compliance isn't really an option?

I'm not concerned about the underlying mechanics apparent motives - I am talking about the idea that the people have spoken up en masse and what that could mean to our society and future, if anyone takes it seriously. We don't really know what the persuasive influences are for the folks apparently running our society or government.

gj



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 08:47 PM
link   
Got a few minutes into the Radio show, production value is horrible, few random people talking over each other. I think this is all a scam!

sent letters to Governors Big Deal



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 09:08 PM
link   
Maybe they'll get rid of all the czars, too?
That term always made me uncomfortable. Too Russian.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 09:13 PM
link   
Please don't demonize me fellas (and ladies), but I am unable to find sources for some of the information listed.

As someone above mentioned, when, where and what source did the federal agents who were murdered come from?

Is there any documentation regarding the change of "every state"'s webpage.

I am looking now, but if you have any links or additional information it would certainly be appreciated.

[edit on 9-4-2010 by Shark VA84]



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 09:18 PM
link   
does any one have concrete proof that the states are or have actually started to change the form in which the name of the state is described, i.e. lower case vs. upper case.
Is there legitimacy to the claim that the change in our government has begun? I started looking into my self, and some of the states are now abrieveated, lower and uppercase.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 09:27 PM
link   
reply to post by BeyondBelow
 


No but I have a slight bit of evidence to the contrary




[edit on 9-4-2010 by Shark VA84]



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 10:11 PM
link   
No proof of State Websites changing that is actually legit

Commonwealth of Virginia that isnt proof

some state sites are different some states are considered Commonwealths like the commonwealths of Virigina and Pennyslvania etc

some sites say State of New Jersey

some have abbrevations in upper case and full spelling in lower case
Not all states have the same thing i dont see why it matters



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 10:54 PM
link   
I want proof of the claims that the military is behind this whole thing. If that were true, I might be able to believe not only that it is real, but that it has a chance to work. TPTB are nothing without their armed thugs.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 11:42 PM
link   
reply to post by warpcrafter
 


Just a quick check up -
Would you be willing to forgo the proof if non-verification is a precondition of the support? In other words, if the rules of engagement dictate that military support not be verified during this action, would the proof you require be worth it? No disrespect, just assessing relative values. Thanks!

gj



posted on Apr, 10 2010 @ 04:14 AM
link   

Originally posted by ganjoa
reply to post by warpcrafter
 


Just a quick check up -
Would you be willing to forgo the proof if non-verification is a precondition of the support? In other words, if the rules of engagement dictate that military support not be verified during this action, would the proof you require be worth it? No disrespect, just assessing relative values. Thanks!

gj


Words always require the support of action, but some actions stand alone.



posted on Apr, 10 2010 @ 07:43 AM
link   

Originally posted by KonigKaos
I think this is all a scam!


It is. Welcome to the fantasy world of the Sovereign Citizen Movement.




The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence.


The terrorists Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh were involved in this movement.

So yes it is a scam and more. What a steaming pile intelligence dulling BS!



posted on Apr, 16 2010 @ 09:19 PM
link   

Originally posted by Lilitu

Originally posted by KonigKaos
I think this is all a scam!


It is. Welcome to the fantasy world of the Sovereign Citizen Movement.




The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence.


The terrorists Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh were involved in this movement.

So yes it is a scam and more. What a steaming pile intelligence dulling BS!


That's called an association fallacy. Just because Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh believed the government was illegitimate, it doesn't mean everybody who believes the same is evil or is going to blow up a government building with fertilizer. You're just trying to associate everybody's fear and hatred of Timothy McVeigh with anyone who claims Sovereignty. You don't even know if they have legitimate reasons for doing so. How do you know you haven't been brainwashed?

Here's one thing you don't know. If anyone says the "Sovereign Citizen" movement is a scam or fraudulent or by any other means illegal, they're probably right. But they're not being forthright and honest with you. Because "Sovereign Citizen" is an oxymoron. You can only be one or the other, a Sovereign or a Citizen. This was already confirmed earlier in this thread. The term itself was probably entered into our vernacular as a way of both discrediting legitimate sovereigns (by being able to tell us that it's illegal, scam, fraud, etc. by the use of attacking a strawman "sovereign citizen"), as a way of hiding our ability to be Sovereign from us in plain sight, and being able to throw us in jail/prison because claiming to be a "Soverign Citizen" probably defaults you to being a "citizen" where our rights are denied to us.

So you'll have to do a little better than that because your source is automatically suspect.

Oops: When I said "previously in this thread" I actually meant the following thread where you posted a comment and linked to this thread. www.abovetopsecret.com...

BTW, I actually don't know if the government will allow anyone to become Sovereign whether through threat or force, but most likely by tangling you in a web of legalities you were never made aware of. I'm still learning about all this myself. But your argument holds absolutely no merit as it's based on a strawman and an association fallacy.

[edit on 17-4-2010 by theyreadmymind]




top topics



 
6
<<   2 >>

log in

join