9-11 Truth makes HUGE appearance at LA Anti-War March = WORST MESSAGE EVER!

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posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 01:31 AM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

okay... so I finally saw the protest... and it was impressive.

until I saw the message in the video that 9/11 truth will end war.... 9/11 truth will end war?

9/11 truth will end war?




9/11 truth will end America and start WWIII.




If you skip to the end... the video says: 9/11 Truth Will End these Wars.



Tell me ATS... do you believe this?

You think the people that carried out 9/11 are that sloppy to where the people catch them?
Or maybe the truth about 9/11 was meant to be discovered? I mean after all, how obvious is it?

I really get offended by people that have done serious research on the subject and still believe the official story... I guess there is one explanation and that is DENIAL.


But the fact of the matter is that 9/11 Truth will lead to more wars... probably WWIII and the end of our country.... and it's all part of the plan.

You want to think like the TPTB? Learn how to think a few moves ahead. 9/11 will be exposed and it will probably be exposed by TPTB themselves. To shut down America... by design.... The NWO will be shutting America Down, not by America using it's military.

A lot of people on ATS feel like America is carrying out the NWO... while this is true, it's America's down fall that carries out the NWO... and it's by design.

I don't know how may times I have to make this clear to ATS... but it's the truth.

You're participating in a false flag opperation - 9/11 Truthers - You're carrying out the agenda
www.abovetopsecret.com...



[edit on 9-4-2010 by Doomsday 2029]




posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 01:36 AM
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I will just lay out why i think 911 truth will end war.

if there is a movement with the purpose of exposing the corruption in America, and is lead by the Americans. it will show the world we care, that we want peace, and are making an effort to stop all of this crap.

I also know there is a possibility it could backfire. Maybe that's why some people are afraid of the truth because of the outcome it may bring.

Good points, i would like to see more feedback on this.

S&F to get the discussion going.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 01:39 AM
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I agree America's collapse is part of their 'plan'.

I think we might be able to stop them, thus avoiding complete collapse... mind you there will still be troubles.

But don't tell me you don't understand why 9/11 truth would end wars...

And what else would you have us do? Not tell people about 9/11?

I'm all ears for a better suggestion..

I can't really imagine anything better to do than spread the info.

I would be willing to stop, but I'd have to see some pretty good reasons why we are being manipulated to such a minute degree as that.

And if we are, then it seems pointless and I might as well go down shouting.




posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 02:00 AM
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I agree with you Doom. There are quite elaborate steps being taken to set this nation up for one last huge and final fall. And could easily see where if they ever allowed the truth of 9/11 to come out (the only way it can ever happen IMO) would do exactly as you stated.

And yet,what are we to do? Live the lie? Let them use our Army to kill countless millions of other people?

There is no good solution. They have totally and completely screwed this nation over. I do not see any way out of where they are leading us. Very scary times indeed.

Cheers-
Phil



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 02:20 AM
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Originally posted by Phil Jayhan
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And yet,what are we to do? Live the lie? Let them use our Army to kill countless millions of other people?

There is no good solution. They have totally and completely screwed this nation over. I do not see any way out of where they are leading us. Very scary times indeed.




They put America in Check Mate and that's the truth.

That's why they are giving away the money through bailouts and stimulous packages.... Somebody is using American dollars to invest in the future... Not our future... but their future.

America is collapsing financially for a reason... because We are being looted!!!

They didn't give the money to Wall Street!!!... They gave the money to foreign interests!!!!

They want a revolution....... an American Revolution...... BY DESIGN.




People on ATS talking about a wikileaks conspiracy...... Of corse it is!!!

It's time to make America look like Nazi Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

America was never meant to prosper for it's own citizens.... we did the work, science, and technological developments for them under the lie that we we're free and it would one day benefit our own people....

Wake up... America was nothing more that corporation to feed foreign interests... and I think we've supplied those certain interests with everything they need.

Time to shut down the factory.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 02:36 AM
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i don't care what happens. this happening is straight out of watchmen. lol, whatever the cause it needs to end. we all know that this wasn't planes...the only other piece left to everything is the chance that a "regrettable lowering of our defenses caused them terrorists to have the chance to plant bombs up in dem buildings" defense could be issued. other than that it was us, with high tech weapons, in the wtc buildings...just open the damn card on the table, this game is boring



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 02:55 AM
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A long time ago I foresaw what would happen if the truth ever comes out. And am sure if it does, it will be one of those trifecta things Bush spoke about. (evil seed)

What is frightening is that most people do not see or perceive the conspiracy of nations, nor do they discern how nearly all the nations are controlled by one power structure, with a few rogue elements.

With the fall of America they will announce the "failure of populist representative" governments, and will then fold us and everyone else in this world into an un-populist world tyranny.

With peoples basic levels of perception and discernment at an all time world low, its really a wonder they simply haven't gone ahead with their plans. What would people do? Rebel? Americans have become so pathetic as a group, I doubt Americans would offer any resistance, no matter how much they took off their gloves and dealt us blow after blow.

Is all the American government would need to do to quell any rebellion is for it to announce that all people need to stop the resistance or the government will take away their favorite show, "American Idol."

I almost guarantee this would break the back of any rebellion Americans ever put up. And rather quickly I might add as well.

Cheers-
Phil






[edit on 9-4-2010 by Phil Jayhan]



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 03:04 AM
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Originally posted by tektek2012
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i don't care what happens.





Some of us have children... I still care.

Doing my best to prepare my children for a world of uncertainty... I give them love... tough love.

Anyway... I provided the truth in the OP... and maybe I'll provide it again in the near future.

The truth is that AMERICA is getting shut down .... from the inside.




Yea 9/11 was an inside job.... an inside job to destroy it. (you people didn't think of that)



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 03:18 AM
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What is frightening is that most people do not see or perceive the conspiracy of nations, nor do they discern how nearly all the nations are controlled by one power structure, with a few rogue elements.


You are absolutely right, and the element that is controlling all the nations are the world banking cartels.

If this country goes down the bankers know they need to leave the country, because the American people will figure this out eventually they will be hungry and will want to “eat the rich.”

I agree what we are witnessing is congress helping the bankers loot this country.
Let just sit back and see how much more bailout congress is going to give these pigs while the rest of this country falls apart.


Is all the American government would need to do to quell any rebellion is for it to announce that all people need to stop the resistance or the government will take away their favorite show, "American Idol."


I love it,
and your probably right, that will tell us that the propaganda machine, the hypnotic machine, the mind control machine, WORKS, it is called television.

I stop watching the News along time ago, they are proven lairs, if I want to be entertain that way, I can go to nearby Wal-Mart checkout line and buy the National Enquire.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 03:32 AM
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Wow. That video made me cry.

I do think you're right though. It does seem like things are being done blatantly to stir the pot. More people are educating themselves about 9/11 and the wars and the gov in general, and I like to think it's a good thing... but man, a lot of people are mad when they wake up!

The problems were created, people are starting to learn about them, at some point they'll probably react the only way they know how. A (pre-planned) solution will be offered and most of the people will take it.

Isn't that how it usually goes?

I hope newly-awoken "truthers", like maybe some of the anti-war marchers, will continue to educate themselves beyond "9/11 truth" and try to understand the whole truth. I feel the same way about all the people who joined the "tea party" to protest Obama because of twisted snippets of Beck-truth.

There is more to the picture. I think people who understand that are generally not as easy to manipulate.

Thanks for the thread and vid.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 04:50 AM
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Doomsday what are you proposing? Would you rather 9/11 not be exposed?
Not sure I get your point.

Also, I think you are overlooking that TPTB need muscle.

US happens to have the most powerful and advanced military on the planet so I believe they need us more than ever.

The truth can sometimes hurt but I think we can handle it.

Anyway my 2 cents.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 08:20 AM
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Intelligence agencies have committed numerous blunders in the past.

Cloak and dagger style operations more often than not, had an outcome, that no one involved in the planning had predicted beforehand. After attempted secret plots, the situation often got worse. Analysts often completely misinterpret the actual and past situation. Predicting the future is much more difficult. Before 9/11 there was no large culture of conspiracy theorists. Many people today have knowledge about major conspiracies of the past. This was not the case ten years ago. The internet has altered how we assess and exchange our information.

Numerous staged coups were prevented by the targeted governments. Thousands of spies and bribed plotters on the CIA payroll have been caught. They have been executed, imprisoned, tortured or just exiled. Although this has rarely been reported in the MSM, it shows, how even elaborate plots designed by intelligent and experienced people are in no way fail proof.

Countless lies and propaganda coups have been exposed, before or after they had the desired impact.

The OS is quite a ludicrous story, but it sounds relative reasonable if compared to some propaganda messages disseminated in the past.

Perhaps there is a second row of patsies for 9/11 (Neocons, the United States as a whole, zionists and Israel, or international intelligence agencies and banker cabals come to my mind), but I don't believe it. The MSM have done everything to suppress the inconsistencies in the OS. The jurisdiction has been compromised and the executive prevents an independent investigation. The original cover-up is still maintained. Although the OS has experienced many transformations in the last decade, the major selected culprit “fundamentalistic Islamic terrorism” remains the same.

A second trap can be evaded, if the people act according to human rights and international law. Even if the strange idea, that there are some master puppeteers and a country like Israel or the USA is designed as a second patsy should be true, partial exposure is in my opinion beneficial to the world. Simply don't start a new war. Only the people involved must be prosecuted. Organisations must be altered in a way, that this can never happen again. If illusions are shattered, many people will not like it. The public will become more and more distrustful of their governments and the media. If people recognize, that they have been lied to massively in the past, they will start their own investigations about present events. Regardless if exposed or not, I believe, this is happening anyway.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 08:42 AM
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The 9/11 Truth Movement will not bring an end to war.

I am more certain of this than I am of almost anything. I'd rather bet against the sun rising tomorrow morning.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 08:50 AM
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911 was the EXCUSE for two wars.

One of which is a PROVEN, trillion dollar boondoggle & atrocity.

Although 911 truth might create a revolution in the US [or not, people are so complacent] which would cause a war, a civil war,

but a righteous war instead of just another treasury looting atrocity.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Doomsday 2029

That's why they are giving away the money through bailouts and stimulous packages.... Somebody is using American dollars to invest in the future... Not our future... but their future.



Actually, the bailout money went to banks, which in turn went to non-profits which have been establishing work compounds in way out rural areas. The strategy is to make everyone homeless and jobless so they will have to depend on these charities, which are actually crumbling religions reorganized as faith-based non profits.

So, eventually the dominionist regime will take over.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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We already know the truth about 911 and it has nothing to do with conspiracy. But I agree with the OP, that the "truther's" claim is completely ridiculous.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 10:46 AM
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Several posts above just serve to convince me further that much of 9/11 trutherism simply derives from anti-government angst.

I think it is revealing that in the truther world the end of the Bush administration and the beginning of Obama's is virtually ignored. There is still exactly the same talk about people being afraid to talk, people being silenced, witnesses paid off as though nothing has happened.

But no-one so far has yet given me any good reason why a democrat president should become complicit in mass murder and kill inconvenient witnesses to protect republican psychopaths.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
I really get offended by people that have done serious research on the subject and still believe the official story... I guess there is one explanation and that is DENIAL.


What offends me is that these 9/11 conspiracy people are so arrogant and self rightious in their zealotry that they've taken to polluting other people's protest outlets. This march was to demonstrate against what the marchers see as disastrous wars and these 9/11 people all but admitted they crashed it. The end result is that anyone witnessing the march will think the "end the war" protestors are also "the gov't is out to murder us all" conspiracy mongers. I doubt they're pleased about that.

NOW, we have a person here...and you KNOW who you are...who said he's going to crash the Second amendment protest in Washington D.C. on April 19th with a megaphone and push out his 9/11 conspiracies. Who here wants to take the bet that the gun hating D.C. reporters who invented terms like, "cop killer bullets" and "semi-automatic assault rifle" won't look at this and attempt to paint all gun owners as a bunch of paranoid conspiracy kooks by association?

The rights of one man ends where the rights of another man begin.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
I really get offended by people that have done serious research on the subject and still believe the official story... I guess there is one explanation and that is DENIAL.


Another explanation is the amazing lack of evidence in favor of conspiracy. Also, the fact that radical muslim terrorism is a far more plausible explanation than the myriad of unprovable, far-out conspiracy claims. There should be no reason whatsoever to take offense to those who have thoroughlly investigated and emerged with an informed opinion. It seems you're simply upset with those who do not think what you do.



posted on Apr, 9 2010 @ 06:33 PM
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TraditionalDrummer, have you ever thought about how your name reflects your attitude?

All I've ever seen you post is traditional arguments and bits of information that the government has supplied. You just keep drumming on the same old things.

Have you seen this? part 1 of 15:


Well worth your time.

I'm pretty sure all us 'truthers' aren't crazy.






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