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TextHere's a thought and question: if after all these thousands of years since Jesus's death, why is and has it NOW become so important
Originally posted by TheEXone
Im not threatened by anything, and i do care about the topic, if not I wouldn't be posting here. It just seems to me a trivial matter what the color of skin was of a man who told us to ignore stuff like that.
Finaly theres a difference between being informed about history, and being obsessed with petty details.
Seekerof said: Here's a thought and question: if after all these thousands of years since Jesus's death, why is and has it NOW become so important to claim or project that Jesus, as with the issue of Santa, etc., is black?
Wasn't a concern before, wasn't a concern those thousand's of years ago.....why NOW? Agenda, maybe?
Cause I'm sure that if Jesus was real and alive today, he would say the very same thing: Why the need to claim a color or race upon me (Jesus); it mattered not then and definitely shouldn't matter now, but for some reason it has become a focal point of contention....why?
Tim Wise said:
Some may ask what the point of all this is though frankly, it ought to be obvious. So long as our culture pictures Adam, Eve, Moses, Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and even God "himself" as fair-skinned, despite the obvious preposterousness of such representations, we will continue to plant the seeds of racial supremacy in the hearts and minds of millions.
After all, to believe that divinity is white like you leads one to easily assume that others are somehow less complete, less than human. If God supposedly made man in his image, and God is always portrayed as a bearded white guy (kinda like Santa without the suit), how hard a leap is it, especially for children whose introduction to religion is always nine-tenths forced propaganda anyway, to assume that persons of color are somehow not full and equal "children of God?" Not to mention the sexist aspect of the male sky, God imagery, of course, which is a whole different can of worms.
Tim Wise said:
The suggestion that Jesus would have had dark enough skin to qualify as a person of color is about as blasphemous to most Christians as anything one could say. Of course, no one wants to admit their indignation at the notion, so they typically couch it in ecumenical platitudes like, "it doesn't matter what Jesus looked like, it only matters what he did."
OK, I'm down with that. Although not a Christian, I've always thought Jesus said and did some pretty exemplary stuff. So if it doesn't matter what he looked like, then why not make him black?
I've asked this question when giving speeches on racism at religiously affiliated colleges, and let's just say, there's nothing like it if you're looking to see how fast you can get folks to start clearing their throats. Again they insist, "no you don't understand, it doesn't matter what he looked like, it's what he did." And again I repeat, O.K., fine, if it really doesn't matter then let's make him black, just for a year. Then you can change him back again if you really want to.
No dice, and no takers. We go round and round, as white folks check their watches and try to figure out how they can leave the room without seeming to be rude.
But let's be clear, the white iconography of Jesus that predominates in this culture makes absolutely no sense, except as an artifact of a white supremacist worldview.
Originally posted by AlexKennedy
But I strongly believe that Jesus would have been pleased with being depicted as a member of all sorts of different "races," and as present during all walks of life. If a church wants to depict Jesus as Black, I don't see what the problem would be; nor if they want to depict him as Asian, or as a Carpenter or a King or a Labourer or a Thinker or whatever: he was, I think, in a very real sense, all of these things: as a human, he had a stake in all human beings.