IODINE why you need it, and why you have been lied to., page 3
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reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 09:46 AM by _damon
reply to post by riley



where is your proof that hyperthyroidism is due to iodine? IN WHAT there is too much iodine?

About iodized salt:link
An iodized salt too poor in iodine .

And funny but i cant find ANY studies about iodine deficiency in US. But i read here and there that about 15% of women could be iodine deficient. And i just found this one: www.healthy-eating-politics.com...


Today, in the United States and around the world, iodine deficiency is a growing problem. In 1970, only 2.6% of the US population was iodine deficient. By 2005, that number had jumped to 16.5%..


16 percent is low? On 300million people, it makes (300*16)/100=~48000000 people! But no its not much.. no problem here

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reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 09:53 AM by USXpat
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Well... I would beg to differ in such volumes as to be deafening... conspiracies to commit murder and fraud alone are pervasive throughout the history of the United States Judicial System. With over 1 million people in prison, odds are pretty high a few thousand of them were convicted on "conspiracy to..." charges...which until proven... are essentially theories.

Seems to me... Watergate started out as a conspiracy. Bay of Pigs, Northwoods, Iran-Contra. Hmm. Whitewater... could probably go on for several pages... starting with Marcus Junius Brutus.


reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 10:02 AM by riley
Originally posted by _damon
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post by riley



where is your proof that hyperthyroidism is due to iodine? IN WHAT there is too much iodine?

Be sure to read it carefully so I do not have to re-iterate.

www.medicinenet.com...
In large quantities, iodine can reduce the release of thyroid hormones from the thyroid gland. If the hormones are not released, their effects won't be seen. Occasionally, doctors use this mechanism to control very active thyroid glands that produce too much thyroid hormone. This type of therapy is difficult and is not used as commonly today. An excess of iodine also decreases the blood flow and growth of the thyroid gland, which is characteristic of Graves' disease. As a result, iodine may be used to reduce the thyroid hormone level in conjunction with surgery to remove some or all of the thyroid gland tissue and assure a good outcome.

While I've just explained how too much iodine exposure can actually shut down thyroid hormone production, in other situations, an excess of iodine may actually cause an over-production of thyroid hormone and hyperthyroidism.

If a person has been exposed to relatively little iodine and then consumes a diet rich in iodine, the individual can develop an excess production of thyroid hormone (iodine-induced hyperthyroidism). In general, this occurs in people who have an underlying thyroid disorder that has not yet manifested clinically. Iodine-induced hyperthyroidism is important in areas of the world where iodine intake is high. We actually see this quite commonly in the United States among populations who have emigrated from countries such as Iran and Africa. The name for this response is the " Jodbasedow" effect, which actually occurs only in a small fraction of people at risk. Even though it is relatively uncommon, it is important since administering iodine-containing dyes for medical procedures (such as CT scans, barium procedures, etc.) can trigger this effect.


About iodized salt:link
An iodized salt too poor in iodine

Thanks so much for providing me with another link to cheap vitamins.



reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 10:05 AM by riley
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Damon.. I'm not about to go for a tit for tat edit for edit war with you.

2nd line.


reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 10:17 AM by _damon
reply to post by riley



I edited before anyone answer. If u want i can make a new post only for ya? The reality will remain the same anyway


reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 10:29 AM by marg6043
reply to post by Nightflower



Thanks for that informative OP, Iodine is very important for the body, I have been using supplement Iodine liquid from kelp in my water.

Another problem that we in the US have due to over working the soil and infecting the soil with all kind of unnatural products including GMO crops is minerals.

America is suffering from a deficiency of minerals.


reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 10:29 AM by _damon
reply to post by Shenron



Iodine RDA is 150mcg/day. Maybe you shoudlnt trust the package. 1mg=1000mcg. 150 mg seems a little too much lol.


reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 11:10 AM by tooo many pills


reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 11:10 AM by Caggy
All I can say is when the body needs something, it craves for it.
I have 2nd kind hypothyroidism (pituitary gland not producing the hormones that activates the thyroid, not a messed up thyroid itself), and I used to eat salt like mad before being diagnosed, and also craved seafood high in iodine, like sea urchins. I ate so much of those spiky dudes that I can't eat them anymore! Yuk.
Now I'm taking sodic levothyroxin and my life changed radically (depression, being tired all the time, sleeping over 16 hours everyday, extreme cold and very bad hair and skin went gone).
I still crave salt time to time, and it's just the time when my nails start to flake and I can't get up well in the morning: time to go to my doctor and get bloodtests to calibrate the levothyroxin dose.

Another example is that I can't drink milk because there's an enzyme that produces me allergies, an enzym that when milk is processed, in form of cheese, yogurth, etc. is destroyed, so milk is forbidden for me. It makes me feel like sh** for weeks. However, time to time i NEEDED to drink some. Recently I've discover that those cravings are because I was getting a low dose of calcium. Started to eat more cheese and yogurth aside of a supplement (that also contains vitamin D) and I've never felt like drinking milk again.

As I said before, when you body lacks something, it tells you. If you want to rise your iodine levels just... because you want, then seaweeds are the key (as someone said before too). Go to your local asian market and try furikake, that's sesame seeds, seaweeds, sea salt and sometimes egg, with white rice if you're lazy and don't wan't to make your own sushi. Nom!

EDIT: terrible grammar and spelling, sorry

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reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 11:36 AM by Sheeper
My gf's mother was complaining about her throat or something being swollen I can't remember where exactly but my gf being a natural healing extremist quickly found that it was a thyroid problem specifically lack of iodine. A quick interigation of her mother found that she had been eating some kind of weird food that just so happens to soak up iodine from your body. So we tell her all this and she being a stubborn women goes to the doctor who says nothing about iodine and prescribes some bs pill that brings the swelling down temporarily and only slightly improves her overall condition, maybe a routine consumption of this pill will keep it tolerable but she would then be tied to the hospital "machine" for....check, 1 more profitable problem. K, so anyway my gf forced her to take a bunch of iodine and her problem went away that day and did not come back, she does not need that stupid prescription. Some "doctors" we got.

Want to know another vitamin that they have put on the ban list because of "dangerous levels of cyanide"? B17, the very vitamin you can find in apple seeds, the part we so foolishly throw away, eat them they won't kill you, I have been for a long time. If you think Iodine is good for protecting you from cancer then B17 wins the medal in the cancer department. Ofcourse cyanide is a dangerous poison but what makes the cyanide in the b17 different is that it doesn't enter your body as typical cyanide, it is a different compound called Laetrile not until it encounters a large concentration of beta-glucosidase in a cell does it break down to form two molecules of glucose, one molecule of benzaldehyde and one molecule of hydrogen cyanide which ofcourse destroys that cell. Because cancer cells have 3000 times as much beta-glucosidase then all other cells, it seems that B17 is specifically suited to prevent and treat cancer.


reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 01:39 PM by CAELENIUM
Dear NIGHTFLOWER , thank you for posting such an informative thread. The amout of Iodine I am ingesting in my usual daily "Holland and Barrett" ABC Plus as it is called is 150 microgrammes which is the permitted daily in take recomended by the EU inquesition presently looking into these suppliments to protect people against possible over dose problems that might occur in certain people due to personal metabolic differences. It is interesting that we must not take too much Iodine too soon. Like as you stated too much Iodine too soon will flush out of the system a wave of toxins which cause side affects. It is not that taking the Iodine is the problem. We must take the Iodine. However people generally might get side affects from the toxins being flushed out and might misunderstand that it is the Iodine causing a side affect. These side affects are only temporary whilst the toxins are being flushed out. Presumably once the system has flushed out all the toxins then the side affects will stop. Obviously taking adequate Iodine has be in the context of a whole lot of other minerals and vitamins that are equally as important. I feel that so long as I am taking the "Holland and Barrett" ABC Plus then I am taking enough of all the essential minerals and vitamins. One very interesting thing that we in Europe endured was the CHERNOBYL disaster. We were given Iodine tablets to counter the radioactive strontium isotope which was replacing the calcium in our bones and teeth. So by taking the Iodine tablets we were protected. Ever since the CHERNOBYL disaster I have been using SEA SALT on my dinning table, because it contains Iodine, where as mineral table salt lacks Iodine. Which is why they now add Iodine to supplies of mineral table salt.

One important thing to mention is that Microgramme is abbreviated "ug" where as the abbreviation for milligramme is "mg". The EU dayly recommended quantity of Iodine is 150 microgramme. Microgrammes are smaller than milligrammes.

We must try to avoid misunderstandings with regard to such measurements. Because misunderstanding might result in injury. So if in any doubt and as a general rule hopefully you will talk with your medical practitioner ? Here in the UK every citizen is by law entitled to a National Health Service registered General Practioner. We are thus fortunate. In the USA I see that President Obama is bringing in a similar system to give all USA citizens similar protections.

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reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 01:43 PM by ibiubu
reply to post by Nightflower



Well no hate from me...good thread. I'm giving it a shot at 50 mg/day...starting out low and ramping up. I talked to my Doc and he's not too concerned about it causing problems. He was actually a little bit intrigued by it.

Thank you...Peace


reply posted on 8-4-2010 @ 01:56 PM by CAELENIUM
Originally posted by burlysoft

Does anyone know why iodine isn't used in bread any more (they use bromine now)?

Iodine - The Most Misunderstood Nutrient
tracker.concen.org...


I know that you're going to think that I am paranoid, but quite obviously it is certainly possible that some one somewhere is hard at work formulating ways by which to kill you. Putting Bromine in your bread might be one such method ? Putting Fluoride in your drinking water might be another method ? Making GM [genetic modifications] to the DNA of our food might be another ? The list goes on and on. Advocating that we overdose on Iodine might be another method ? At the end of the day should all else fail to kill you then the final solution is nuclear war. That in theory should be able to exterminate all life on Earth. Governments and Corporations serving the Alien Agenda for interplantary warfare are spending vaste amounts of Tax Payer money simply to develop optimal and ever increasingly efficient ways by which to mass murder everything and everybody on this planet. It is called Armaggedon. Hell. The possibility of Alien Invasion has been a staple of Sci-Fi movies since the birth of cinema. However, what if it is all for real ? What if the UFO invasion is real ? What if our planet is genuinely under attack using various methods ? My intuition tells me that a species that is killing its own kind cannot survive for much longer. Why do we allow our military to even exist ? Why are we allowing such evil ? Violence to combat violence only creates more violence.

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