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Democratic socialism is difficult to define, and groups of scholars have radically different definitions for the term. Some definitions simply refer to all forms of socialism that follow an electoral, reformist or evolutionary path to socialism, rather than a revolutionary one. Often, this definition is invoked to distinguish democratic socialism from communism, as in Donald Busky's Democratic Socialism: A Global Survey, Jim Tomlinson's Democratic Socialism and Economic Policy: The Attlee Years, 1945-1951, Norman Thomas Democratic Socialism: a new appraisal or Roy Hattersley's Choose Freedom: The Future of Democratic Socialism.
But for those who use the term in this way, the scope of the term "socialism" itself can be very vague, and include forms of socialism compatible with capitalism. For example, Robert M. Page, a Reader in Democratic Socialism and Social Policy at the University of Birmingham, writes about "transformative democratic socialism" to refer to the politics of the Clement Attlee government (a strong welfare state, fiscal redistribution, some nationalisation) and "revisionist democratic socialism", as developed by Anthony Crosland and Harold Wilson.
New Democrats today advocate, among other things
Gender equality and equal rights for gays, lesbians, and minorities
Improve environmental protection
National water safety standards
Increasing corporate taxes
Reducing poverty in Canada
Human rights protection
Expanded high-quality public transport
Expanded public health care including dental and prescription drug coverage
Social assistance policies that reflects citizens' needs and assist their re-entry to the work force
Abolishing the Senate of Canada and ensuring more proportional representation
Workers' rights including raising the minimum wage to at least keep up with the cost of living
Aboriginal treaty, land, and constitutional rights
A foreign policy that emphasizes diplomacy, peacekeeping and humanitarian aid instead of offensive military action
Renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA)
One wing is focused on ending the Canadian War on Drugs and legalizing recreational drugs
Originally posted by SaturnFX
a social republic is, in my opinion, the end point for the nation and world as a whole. The only real question is, how much socialism is required to get that perfect balance between happiness, welfare, and innovation.
Too much socialism creates a innovative void, too little creates heavy wealth disparity and innovative short sightedness.
People need security, people want to drive for perks. I personally believe government exists to do a few things
1) to protect us from people whom wish to drop big bombs on our cities
2) to help the average citizen have the basics so that a epic fall from grace will not result in death or inability to crawl back up
3) a few key large programs that help create infrustructure for new technologies...(aka, road networks, space exploration, etc)...things otherwise completely non profitable to create by any, but the effect will enhance tons of new business and commerce for all.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by ZombieOctopus
I thought as well that there would be many Americans coming into this thread and attempting to show the downside of this system or just bashing it with straw man arguments, however this doesn't seem to be the case.
I do expect a little bit of debate on the issue and certainly welcome anybody to post their thoughts, either pro or con.
This is a conversation after all.
Thanks for your input .
Originally posted by Steve8511
The difference between real socialism and communism is one just hasn’t had their guns taken yet.
I can see how people who like being dependent and need the handouts like the idea of socialism. And even good hard working people are now needing help as this all get worse and will get even harder on all of us.
But I’m an a hard working person driven by success, and that means all my hard work will be taken from me and given to those who don’t have the drive I do.
I don’t like how forums even here are infiltrated by gov stooges to promote this crap!
Originally posted by Steve8511
reply to post by tothetenthpower
See that is your free will and choice to do so……and people like me believe in that it is a good idea. Right up to the point that the Gov takes and gives to whatever they see fit against my will!!!!!!