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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by mnemeth1
OK, einstein ( ) answer this:
I don't have time to read through pseudo-science crap, and since you're the master of it....IF our Sun (and by extension, you must then assume, or claim, that ALl stars are 'constructed' similarly) is 'electric', where does it get its mass from?
Sol accounts for over 98% of ALL the mass in our Solar System.
It's the gazillion-pound gorilla in the room...
>> General form of the magnetic field line pattern in a force-free axisymmetric filamentary structure. The filament is transparent so the temperature decreases toward the axis due to a preferential cooling of the densest regions. So the ionized components of the plasma are convected inwards with a velocity V across a temperature gradient, delta T. Diagram adapted from Marklund, G. T., "Plasma convection in force-free magnetic fields as a mechanism for chemical separation in cosmical plasma", Nature, vol. 277, Feb. 1, 1979, p. 370, 371.
It is a very efficient mechanism which results in scavenging matter with a long-range 1/r force. Marklund explains, “In my paper in Nature the plasma convects radially inwards, with the normal E x B/B2 velocity, towards the center of a cylindrical flux tube. During this convection inwards, the different chemical constituents of the plasma, each having its specific ionization potential, enter into a progressively cooler region. The plasma constituents will recombine and become neutral, and thus no longer under the influence of the electromagnetic forcing. The ionization potentials will thus determine where the different species will be deposited, or stopped in their motion." Stars formed in this way have an outer envelope of helium and hydrogen. Working inwards, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen will form the atmospheric middle layers, and iron, silicon and magnesium will make up the core, which is cool. There is no thermonuclear engine in stars!
I guess then that you don't care that when Electric Model was given its chances and large scale work was done on it the results came up NIL. More than once.
Your theory has no evidence other than what a couple engineers say and 1 physicist that shot himself in the foot by acting like a jackass to the rest of the community.
There is not one example of a large scale proof or even a bit of large scale evidence to support the EUM. That is a fact.
Perhaps if the entire EU community got its panties out of a bunch and quit bitching because no one takes them seriously (their own doing I add) then they may be able to work with the mainstream community.
Every time someone challenges the EU model the EU proponents get uppity and in your face with the what do you know attitude. . . . Sounds exactly like the religious zealots you accuse the relativity proponents of behaving like.
Your evidence is does not exist out there in the cosmos. Its been sought but never found. Your major players aren't physicist and your all sour over the fact that GR tends to smash EU at making predictions.
Uhm. . . The so called "dark anomolies" are not unfalsifiable. They are currently being looked into. Within the next few years an answer to these anomolies will most likely be found.
This isn't string theory we're talking about here. This is macro scale physics and the anomolies will either be resolved or not. There are also solutions to GR floating around out there that do not require the extra "dark" mass.
It all comes down to the next couple years of high level research. Everyone is just kind of holding their collective breath waiting on cern to verify or disprove super symmetry or the higgs feild/boson. We are also waiting on data from GLAST and the highly anticipated launch of the JWST.
Relativity or not EU or not. String theory or holographic universe. . . . All of which may turn out to be horribly wrong are being tested.
No matter the outcome of all the research and man hours, it is a great time to be alive and interested in the science of physics at all scales.
To the future.
1933-11-02: Tesla 'Harnesses' Cosmic Energy
1933-12-__: Breaking up Tornadoes
1934-03-__: Possibilities of Electro-Static Generators
1934-04-__: Nikola Tesla Writes (Additional comments on electrostatic generators)
1934-04-08: Tesla Sees Evidence Radio and Light Are Sound
1934-07-__: Radio Power Will Revolutionize the World
1934-07-10: Invents Peace Ray - Tesla Describes His Beam of Destructive Energy
1934-07-11: Death-Ray Machine Described
1934-07-11: Tesla, at 78, Bares New 'Death-Beam'
1934-07-11: Beam to Kill Army at 200 Miles, Tesla's Claim on 78th Birthday 1934-07-24: Tesla on Power Development and Future Marvels
1934-10-21: Tribute to King Alexander
1934-10-21: Dr. Tesla Visions the End of Aircraft in war
1935-02-__: A Machine to End War
1935-03-03: German Cosmic Ray Theory Questioned
1935-06-05: Tesla Predicts Ships Powered by Shore Beam
1935-07-09: 3 Tesla Inventions
1935-07-11: Nikola Tesla, at 79, Uses Earth to Transmit Signals; Expects to Have $100,000,000 Within Two Years (Kivonatok a cikkbol)
1935-07-11: Tesla's Controlled Earthquake
1935-07-11: Tesla, 79, Promises to Transmit Force
1935-08-18: Expanding Sun Will Explode Someday Tesla Predicts (Kivonatok a cikkbol)
1935-09-22: Nikola Tesla Tells How He'd Defend Ethiopia Against Italian Invasion
1936-07-11: Tesla, 80, Reveals New Power Device
1937-07-10: Prepared Statement of Tesla (For interview with press on 81st birthday observance)
1937-07-11: Sending of Messages to Planets Predicted by Dr. Tesla on Birthday
1937-07-12: Tesla Has Plan to Signal Mars
1937-07-27: Dr. Tesla's Honors
1937-08-22: In the Realm of Science: Tesla, Who Predicted Radio, Now Looks Forward to Sending Waves to the moon
1938-05-12: Text of Tesla Speech for the Institute of Immigrant Welfare 1938-10-08: Reference to Compass in 13th Century Poem
1939-__-__: Story of Youth Told by Age
1939-07-26: The Soviet Sacrifice of Spain
1940-07-12: Aerial Defense 'Death-Beam' Offered to U. S. By Tesla 1940-09-22: 'Death Ray' for Planes
1940-10-20: Proposing the 'Death Ray' for Defense
Originally posted by Maddogkull
reply to post by sirnex
What do you mean by aether?
How do you know this so called ether exists?
What if it is Dark Matter?
What if it is just the magnetic sphere.
How could he possibly get any kind of clear reading of what makes up the universe whilst the mass of the Earth and Sun, and their magnetic fields, are massively blurring anything in the basic fabric of space, be it ether or nothing.
He (Tesla) talked about experiments that suggested particles with fractional charges of an electron - something that scientists in 1977 finally discovered - quarks!
Simply put, how?
No computers, nothing but last century equipment.
I'm suppose to believe that a man in the post-steam era could accurately observe the basic structure of the universe?
that's just silly.
Something can carry electricity. that does not change the distance electricity can go before dispersing.
Gas-rich planets such as Jupiter and Saturn grew from a disk of dust and gas which eventually crumpled like a piece of paper under its own gravitational instability -- or so one theory goes.
Now a computer simulation suggests that this idea falls apart under the turbulent forces within early protoplanetary systems.
Originally posted by tektek2012
most science is based on math, math proves so much...is math a lie to you?
because if it is; well...sorry but while the things based on theories could be wrong, not all of it is. its not all completely understood.
now to the real stuff...you like jesus don't you?