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A Response to the Georgia Guidestones. the Anti-Guidestone Manifesto

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posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 10:01 AM
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The georgia guidestones. You have heard about them, they have been discussed several times. I have weighed through each of the suggestions with philosophical insight and have concluded that, unlike the popular conspiracy viewpoint, the guidestones are a momument for a counter to the imposing NWO.

It has also failed completely...the NWO is a powerful and clever entity existing in several parts of our world society, manipulating our collective mindsets, shifting our perspectives to be aligned with their agenda, and ultimately rule over us (the slave class) by fueling our fears, calling a crime any whom oppose the thinking of the status quo, and having the people cry angrily at those whom would awaken us.

Who sponsored them?
Answer from the wiki:
A small group of Americans
who seek the Age of Reason

Now then...the stones are inscribed with the 10 guiding points of society in several world languages:


# Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
# Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
# Unite humanity with a living new language.
# Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
# Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
# Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
# Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
# Balance personal rights with social duties.
# Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
# Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature



I have seen plenty of people write after each number why its a horrible thing...I will now attempt to give an answer to each point with the obvious counter to show two things
1) The guidestones are the exact opposite of where we are going
2) The opposite direction is the clear path to the worst senario NWO imaginable

yet, this is what the people fight for whom call themselves anti-nwo.

Some things to consider: Fifedoms become kingdoms, kingdoms become empires, towns become districts, districts become states, states become countrys, countrys become unions, etc...it is a natural progression of humanity to unite over time...so there is no doubt that in 50-100-200 years, the world will be united in some form..this is unquestionable, the only real question is how it will be accomplished.

So, without further adu, here is my interpretation as to where we are at in fighting the menace guidestones:


(sidenote..I will be giving the NWO response..feel free to put a campy evil vocal overtone to the response for full effect
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# Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.


-We must create many. Unhinged reproduction without sufficient technological progression will force obedience to the ruling class to attain life supporting resources.
Fill the earth until there is no room left...keep them distracted. Solitude breeds introspection and awakens people. Create a earth void of solitude and dependent on industrial resource manufacturing



# Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.


Reproduction covered above. Add chemicals to the water supply, create cultural vacuums across the world to have only a single earthen culture, void of any tradition, spirit, or sense of self/history. Then control the world culture trends through media manipulation.



# Unite humanity with a living new language.


Confuse the people with language barriers. Accept spelling corruption. Encourage mainstream culture to continously create new words and meanings so learning new languages and merging any become a impossible task. Keep the nations seperated from collective insight.



# Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.


Control and encourage irrational fears, posturing, and loss of culture in society through popular culture, talking sensationalism, and a dependence on media elite to direct their passions in support of specific partys and products.




# Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.


Every nation needs to feel elite and above neighboring nations to encourage xenophobia and reduce the capacity of what the people of the world can produce working in cooperation. This will allow for the few to control the many with segmented groups fearful of their neighbor. The people will be the tool to protect the national interests in other lands through force and will do so willingly through percieved loss of freedom should they not.




# Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.


Internal politics should be continuously challenged to destabilize governments whom choose to be their own entity. Tools such as sanctions, pre-emptive strikes, and rhetoric shall be the norm. The world court shall be made defunct and inoperative, else people will start to question the rights of the world court. War and invasion shall be the true world court.




# Avoid petty laws and useless officials.


Encourage bottlenecking of court systems and create vast networks of governmental institutions. Make even thinking or seeing improper or criminal behavior also a crime. Use censorship..lots of censorship.




# Balance personal rights with social duties.


Encourage privileged rights and social neglect. The people must be angry at each other. The more a society uniformly grows, the more it advances. Destroy social duties and make community caring a negative view. Allow the government to enforce welfare due to the lack of personal social community caring to create a dependent system as more world wealth is removed from the people...the eventual goal to have a complete slave class to governmental assistance run by the controllers of wealth and the governmental establishment.




# Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.


corrupt truth to skewed views of political theater. Reject any natural beauty of physical or mental aspects in society and replace it with materialistic illusions of lust, conformity, and submission. Reject introspection and personal connection with spiritual aspects of yourself and enforce cold religious institutions and places of worship. Create movements to enforce particular brands of worship and belittle/reject/oppose any challenge or alternative thinking. Do not allow individualism within personal connections to the divine.




# Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature


Control the resources. Expand population to dependency and destroy all natural resources to collect under the manufacturing corporate entities, controlled by the few and managed by government and corporate interests. oppose regulations and exploit any/all areas of the world. Create false shortage mindsets and ignore alternative solutions until resources dry up.


Well, thats it. My answer to the evil guidestones. The "good" news is that we are completely sold on the anti-guidestone movement and perhaps will never be able to achieve any sort of guidestone movement

Because that would fly against the NWO masters.

Enjoy




posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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Incidently, I welcome any counter to this by responding to the list, point by point, with a opposing view of said points that show a alternative outcome that wouldn't be a disaster.

some caveats
-must be opposite of the point
-must make sense
-must not simply reinterpret what is written as some hidden message...this is about a alternative, not a dismantling of the source.

oh, and can a OPs please move this into the NWO catagory...I posted in the wrong forum...unless you think it works here.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 10:22 AM
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Well said Saturnfx.

So many people have denounced the guidestones as part of an evil agenda but I've never agreed with that point of view. The guidestones offer us guided tools for living a good life.

The fear that the line "maintain humanity under 500,000,000, in perpetual balance with nature" implies a depopulation agenda is a non sequitur, if I were running the NWO, I'd want as many people as possible, the better to keep everyone confused. Indeed we are living in the New World Order Now. The only question is, will we let it continue.

The Georgia Guidestones provide us with wisdom, fair, reasonable wisdom for living a good life in this world.

Kind Regards,
Tamale



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Tamale_214
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The fear that the line "maintain humanity under 500,000,000, in perpetual balance with nature" implies a depopulation agenda is a non sequitur,

Kind Regards,
Tamale


This is the single thing on the stone I disagree with overall. I believe population should not be a solid numerical value to be maintained, but rather a sliding scale dependent on how well we manage resources overall.

I think the stones were written during a time of percieved overpopulation and without foresight that technological progression will allow for more people without destroying the balance.

I believe currently we can support about 2-3 billion people without much of an impact...if we lived responsibly (a socialism), that number could end up being 15-20b...but that is underground and dome living, which frankly I am not overly supportive of currently.

Perhaps in 50-100 years, we will be able to support tens of billions without a noticable impact should technology be advanced and used properly..I think the key is, manage population with wisdom and balance overall.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX


This is the single thing on the stone I disagree with overall. I believe population should not be a solid numerical value to be maintained, but rather a sliding scale dependent on how well we manage resources overall.

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Perhaps in 50-100 years, we will be able to support tens of billions without a noticable impact should technology be advanced and used properly..I think the key is, manage population with wisdom and balance overall.


Indeed, I agree with you on all points, however I don't think that the specific number that the authors of the guidestones put forward is necessarily that pertinent. What is important is the principle of "in perpetual balance with nature".

Perhaps if they had to do it again, in light of the furor of the depopulationists, they might have written something like:

"go forth and multiply...but not so much that you screw up the planet you numbskulls, I mean seriously, 7 billion people? Really? Really?!"

:-)
Tamale



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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think about the word "maintain" a bit more.

i believe you are looking a little too optimistically at its use.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by tektek2012
think about the word "maintain" a bit more.

i believe you are looking a little too optimistically at its use.


Subjective...maintain may mean to you to enforce...such as maintain speed at 47.6mph
Whereas to me it means, keep in safety, like maintaining a ancient relic...making sure no damage comes from outside

in 100 years or even less, humanity may be dissolved in favor of mechanical and electrical bodys if Kurzweil is correct..this may be requesting to at least have half a billion organism humans minimum on the planet

we can read into the intent over and over and come up with different versions of what it "could" mean, some sinister, some helpful, but if you simply read it in context of the sentence, it simply means be in balance with nature...its good to read things simply as they are stated.

You can find meaning in anything if thats where you want to remove context.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:34 PM
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The guidestones offer us guided tools for living a good life


Your nuts.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
The guidestones offer us guided tools for living a good life


Your nuts.



Care to expand on that, or are you just practicing typing?



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:49 PM
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Come on, folks.

The guidestones have nothing to do with the "NWO" either way. Can we come out of fantasyland?



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Come on, folks.

The guidestones have nothing to do with the "NWO" either way. Can we come out of fantasyland?


I agree..its just a neat statue of idealistic statements on some rocks designed by people whom also clearly enjoyed astronomy.

I just figured it would be nice to argue the counter in the face of those claiming its this magical NWO conspiracy monument.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by tektek2012
think about the word "maintain" a bit more.

i believe you are looking a little too optimistically at its use.


I don't think so. It is clear to me that those stones were designed and built to withstand time, not unlike stonehenge and other monuments.

When I read the entire context of the writing of the stones it reads to me as a guide to help rebuild future civilizations following a cataclysm. It is not clear to me that this cataclysm would be caused by the builders of the stones, nor that the cataclysm would even occur in this century or the next.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Come on, folks.

The guidestones have nothing to do with the "NWO" either way. Can we come out of fantasyland?


I don`t know why or by who the guidestones were built, but it is clear to me that someone spent a great deal of time, money and research to ensure they were built to a very exacting specification and to ensure that the builders would remain unknown. That`s about all I know for certain about the Georgia Guidestones.


If you have a theory about them I would be very interested to hear.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by Tamale_214
If you have a theory about them I would be very interested to hear.


You mean something beyond them being a crappy tourist attraction in a Georgia granite-quarry town? There's not much more to it than that.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:04 PM
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Pretty esoteric for a crappy tourist attraction if you ask me. Wouldn't it have been more effective to build a giant sculpture of mickey mouse or something else that people liked and understood and wanted to see?

I notice that that in Ashburn, Georgia there is a sculpture of the world's largest peanut, that seems more like it.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Tamale_214
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Pretty esoteric for a crappy tourist attraction if you ask me. Wouldn't it have been more effective to build a giant sculpture of mickey mouse or something else that people liked and understood and wanted to see?

I notice that that in Ashburn, Georgia there is a sculpture of the world's largest peanut, that seems more like it.


It seems quite appropriate that a town full of granite quarries has a monument comprised of huge slabs of granite. Nothing esoteric about that.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by Tamale_214
reply to post by traditionaldrummer



It seems quite appropriate that a town full of granite quarries has a monument comprised of huge slabs of granite. Nothing esoteric about that.


I would agree with you except for the content of the monument, doesn't that strike you odd in the least?



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Tamale_214
I would agree with you except for the content of the monument, doesn't that strike you odd in the least?


Not at all. In fact, it's quite consistent with the mentality of the ecological movement at the time of their construction.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by Tamale_214
I would agree with you except for the content of the monument, doesn't that strike you odd in the least?


Not at all. In fact, it's quite consistent with the mentality of the ecological movement at the time of their construction.


Fair enough. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, I can accept that. I nonetheless have lingering doubts that this is the case here, but as with everything, time will tell.

Regards,
Tamale



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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The first thing we need to do is to take back our schools from these monsters, to get the fluoride out of our drinking water, especially in inner city areas, to end the WAR, end the FED, abolish the UN and restore the Constitution. Then someone needs to build a beautiful marble statue inscribed with some beautiful message that essentially says that life is great and the more people the better.




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