Is HAARP being used to create a shield against Nibiru???

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posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 11:05 PM
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Thorny issue... Well, most of conspiracy theorists about HAARP technology, states that the lab facilities and antenna farms, spread around the world and associated to US military and Raytheon, are being used as biologic-environmental weapon. Regardless if they are right or not, the fact is that many respected scientists and geologists have claimed that, whatever is the purpose of such facilities, they are indeed, firing a massive amount of high-frequency radio waves that accelerate electrons in the atmosphere, officially intended to expand knowledge about the nature of long-range radio communications and surveillance using the fluctuating ionosphere - the portion of the upper atmosphere extending from 35 to 500 miles above earth's surface.

According to program manager John L. Heckscher of the Phillips Laboratory at Hanscom AFB, Massachusetts, potential military applications of the HAARP research include developing Department of Defense technology for detecting cruise missiles and communicating with submarines:



Although HAARP is being managed by the Air Force and Navy, it is purely a scientific research facility that poses no threat to potential adversaries and has no value as a military target.


On the radar:

# Injecting high-frequency radio energy into the ionosphere to create huge, extremely low frequency (ELF) virtual antennas used for earth-penetrating tomography peering deep beneath the surface of the ground by collecting and analyzing reflected ELF waves beamed down from above.
# Heating regions of the lower and upper ionosphere to form virtual "mirrors" that can reflect a broad range of radio frequencies far over the horizon to detect stealthy cruise missiles and aircraft.
# Generating ELF radio waves in the ionosphere to communicate across large distances with deeply submerged submarines.

Off the radar

# Creating a "full global shield" that would destroy ballistic missiles by overheating their electronic guidance systems as they fly through a powerful radio-energy field.
# Distinguishing nuclear warheads from decoys by sensing their elemental composition.
# Manipulating local weather.

According to Todd Pedersen, a research physicist at the US Air Force Research Laboratory in Massachusetts, the scientists working in HAARP are creating dense patches of plasma, through ionizing of atmosphere gases, caused by HAARP emissions:



This is the really exciting part - we've made a little artificial piece of ionosphere.


Similar statement was made by Mike Kosch, chair of Experimental Space Science at Lancaster University, UK:



It's the fact that we can actually create enough high-energy electrons to form plasma.




It's a common sense among many researchers that HAARP can manipulate the ionosphere and 9 in 10 believe it's being used in warfare, climate changing and even depopulation, through targeted earthquakes, but, assuming that Nibiru is real, NASA, world wide space agencies and governments of the superpower nations are aware of its orbital path, I've been speculating if HAARP could be used to increase Earth's magnetosphere in order to prevent the effects of its gravity pull. I couldn't find data to support my assumptions, I mean 99% of non-governmental websites that discuss about HAARP, provide info focused in the interaction Earth-HAARP-ionosphera, not in space-HAARP-ionosphere and the number of HAARP facilities currently working all over the world, suggests that the its purpose may be related with some global major project.




World wide HAARP farms coordinates:

USA/Alaska
62°23'29.66''N, 145°06'58.47''W

Sura Facility
HAARP Like Facility
Nizhniy Novgorod, Russia
sura.nirfi.sci-nnov.ru...
56°7'9.70''N, 46°2'3.66''E
56°08'N, 46°06'E

National MST Radar Facility
NMRF
Andra Pradesh, India
13°27'26.68''N, 79°10'30.74''E

Jicamarca Radio Observatory
Lima, Peru
11°57'6''S, 76°52'27''W

Jindalee Operational Radar Network
JORN
Long Reach, Australia
23°24'S, 143°48'E
Leonora, Australia
28°19'02.5608''S, 122°50'36.4416''E
Laverton, West Australia
28°19'36.29''S, 122°0'18.84''E
23°39'28.9692''S, 144°08'43.5552''E
Alice spring, Australia
22°58'03.2196''S, 134°26'52.5732''E

Arecibo, Porto Rico
18°20'39''N, 66°45'10''W

EISCAT, Norway
69°35'10.67''N, 19°13'28.62''E

HiScat/Teracom, Sweden
55°49N, 13°44E

Maybe I'm talking BS, but I regard this possibility.

Any ideas???

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Basic information on HAARP


[edit on 6-4-2010 by ucalien]

[edit on 6-4-2010 by ucalien]




posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 11:18 PM
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The Australian Jindalee over the horizon radar is just that.
A very long range high frequency over the horizon radar.

It has nothing at all to do with HAARP.

The antenna systems used are totally different in type and construction to HAARP, the power level is vastly lower, and it would be totally useless for heating up the ionosphere.



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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This seems well thought out and researched. Don't be too quick to back down from your ideas.

You could be on to something important!



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 11:33 PM
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The Australian Jindalee over the horizon radar is just that. A very long range high frequency over the horizon radar. It has nothing at all to do with HAARP.


You do live in Australia, right??? So you should know that the Jindalee is a joint between US Defense Dept. and Australian Defense Dept.
Don't jump so fast to say that it isn't related with HAARP.

Basic info about Australian Defense System



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 11:35 PM
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reply to post by chorizo4
 

I know that may be a plausible application to HAARP, but I couldn't hit the bulls eye.



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 11:41 PM
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Thats what they want you to think it is. One of our past prime ministers Harold Holt opposed the construction of pine gap and look what happened to him

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posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 11:46 PM
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Why do you not mention Nibiru in your thread? How and why are you relating this to Nibiru when you only seem to mention it in the title.



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 11:57 PM
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Why do you not mention Nibiru in your thread? How and why are you relating this to Nibiru when you only seem to mention it in the title.




It's a common sense among many researchers that HAARP can manipulate the ionosphere and 9 in 10 believe it's being used in warfare, climate changing and even depopulation, through targeted earthquakes, but, assuming that Nibiru is real, NASA, world wide space agencies and governments of the superpower nations are aware of its orbital path, I've been speculating if HAARP could be used to increase Earth's magnetosphere in order to prevent the effects of its gravity pull.


Hmmmm, didn't u read the entire thread?? First paragraph after the YT video.



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 11:59 PM
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You can take HIPAS off the list
HIPAS



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:01 AM
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I found great humor in your first few words "thorny issue."


I bet it is very thorny. Just don't take what they say personally, because it is inevitable you will get slammed on this one.

I do really like your out of the box thinking though. We need more open minded questions like this.

It doesn't matter what the answer is. It just matters that you are asking big questions.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
You can take HIPAS off the list
HIPAS


Just that??

Well... I expected more from you Phage.


Maybe you are tired around this time eh?



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by ucalien
You do live in Australia, right??? So you should know that the Jindalee is a joint between US Defense Dept. and Australian Defense Dept.



Yes I live in Australia.
I am a retired electronics engineer, with rather a lot of experience in radio communications.
And I had a security clearance at one time.

Our radar system can watch over most of South East Asia. It can track small boats and light aircraft thousands of miles away.
Even measure wave heights in the ocean for more accurate weather forecasting.

And do you suppose that the US defense department might not be a bit interested in that type of capability?

So yes, there is very close cooperation and intelligence sharing going on both ways.
Hardly surprising really.
But all that has nothing at all to do with HAARP.



[edit on 7/4/2010 by Silver Shadow]



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:10 AM
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Did you know the Australian Ballet sends exchange dancers to America ?

And their dance routines are believed to be the cause earthquakes.

I think you just hit the filthy nail on the head !! haha



UCalien, unfortunately your in depth research and insights will be lost because you linked it to Niburu. Thats almost an instant loss of credibility in most peoples eyes.

It's like an astronaut reporting a sighting of Santa Clause.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:15 AM
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tonight on coast to coast:

Well known lecturer on new technologies, health and earth science related issues Dr. Nick Begich will discuss the latest updates on HAARP technology as well as the rapid advances in mind effects and enhancing ESP potentials.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:19 AM
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NMRF does not have an ionospheric heater.
Jindalle does not have an ionospheric heater.
Jicamarca does not have an ionospheric heater.

All of those facilities are radar installations or radiotelescopes.

I'm not sure Hi-Scat even exists.





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posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:24 AM
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You can take HIPAS off the list HIPAS


Oh, how the Gakuna facility is called now???



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by ucalien
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You can take HIPAS off the list HIPAS


Oh, how the Gakuna facility is called now???

HAARP is at Gakona.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:32 AM
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NMRF does not have an ionospheric heater.
Jindalle does not have an ionospheric heater.
Jicamarca does not have an ionospheric heater.
All of those facilities are radar installations or radiotelescopes.


Ops...

Research facility ionospheric heater
Research facilities existing or under development: Listed by Maximum Radiated Power (ERP)

1. HISCAT (International Radio Observatory, Suécia) – 350 MW

2. HAARP (Gakona Alaska) – 110 MW

3. EISCAT (Tromsö, Noruega) – 48 MW

4. VOA (Voice of America, Delano, CA) – 27 MW

5. SURA (Radiophysical Research Institute, Nizhny Novgorod, Russia) – 20 MW

6. Arecibo (National Astronomy e Ionosphere Center, Puerto Rico) – 20 MW

7. HIPAS (High Power Auroral Stimulation Observatory, UCLA Plasma Physics Lab – Fairbanks Alaska) – 17 MW

Extracted from the article of Marshall D. Smith, president of
Teddy Speaks Foundation, Inc (translated in portuguese)

www.ecocidio.com.br...


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posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:42 AM
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reply to post by ucalien
 

Yes, those facilities do have heaters.
Except HIPAS, it's gone.
And I'm still not sure what HISCAT is or what it does.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by ucalien

1. HISCAT (International Radio Observatory, Suécia) – 350 MW

2. HAARP (Gakona Alaska) – 110 MW

3. EISCAT (Tromsö, Noruega) – 48 MW

4. VOA (Voice of America, Delano, CA) – 27 MW

5. SURA (Radiophysical Research Institute, Nizhny Novgorod, Russia) – 20 MW

6. Arecibo (National Astronomy e Ionosphere Center, Puerto Rico) – 20 MW

7. HIPAS (High Power Auroral Stimulation Observatory, UCLA Plasma Physics Lab – Fairbanks Alaska) – 17 MW



You forgot to include the alleged Jindalee HAARP station in Australia in your list.

Or maybe the flea powered over the horizon radar transmitters at Jindalee are not going to destroy the earth, or control all our minds after all.





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