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Planet X. Hiding behind another celestial body ?

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posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 03:35 PM
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thanks ,you just made my day......NOT......jeeez,now im not gonna sleep,or should i say i cant go to sleep.....lol....interesting none the less...




posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 03:35 PM
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Do you have a hard time understanding what you read ?
No offense but destroying anything is not mentioned at all.

Besides that even a bunch of scientists are still looking for planet X or whatever you want to call it. You can find the article in this Thread



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
reply to post by TheCosmicOcean
 


Do you have a hard time understanding what you read ?
No offense but destroying anything is not mentioned at all.

Besides that even a bunch of scientists are still looking for planet X or whatever you want to call it. You can find the article in this Thread


Ah, i see scientists with the best telescopes in the world, cannot find what Planet-x believers find on a daily basis within this forum.

Do you have a hard time understanding what you read ?

No not at all.

Planet-X Nibru whatever name you want to call it, often then not is associated with the end of the world etc knocking earth of it's Axis the list gos on.

until concrete evidence of Planet-X is presented i will not lose much sleep on this Death Star.

Maybe you could show NASA were to point there equipment.




posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 04:28 PM
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I replied your post because that is not where I was going at.
No destruction just a possible explenation for a celestial body which is speculated for about 6 to 7000 years now. Nothing more.

If I had any other reason I would have posted it on the predictions forum.

Not that don't appreciate your reply but why so negative ?



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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I dont think im being "negative" i think i am being realistic. The more Gullible people out in the world hear this stuff, and believe it blindly. without looking into the matter more deeply but believing wild story's and shaky evidence.

I remember hearing a story on the radio about a lady who had heard this stuff about Nibru and rang NASA to ask if she should have her cat put down before that date. I know it's just a animal, but some people might take it more seriously and start killing there family's to save them from this supposed event.

This is what NASA have to say about Nibru.
www.nasa.gov...

but your right this isn't a thread about the end of the world it's a thread about the possible discovery of Planet-X.



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 05:04 PM
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Thank you.

I agree with what you say. I feel the same way.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 03:08 AM
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Thanks for posting these videos.
Nobody seems to have commented on the fast moving object on update of 30/3/2010. To me, it looks like a spacecraft. On occasions, it changes course. I never swallowed Annunaki stuff before, about them using Nibiru as a space station before coming down here to Earth. I really don't know what to make of this!

mclinking



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by mclinking
Nobody seems to have commented on the fast moving object on update of 30/3/2010.


Stereologist has commented on it twice, and I agree with him 100%. It's a satellite. If you go to heavens-above.com and enter your location, you can find which satellites have been and will be visible from where you live.

As far as the object goes, I cannot ID it on the basis of the stars around it (judging from his view of Orion's belt, his field of view is ~5 degrees), however, I can tell you this much: His coordinates are not near Orion - they are ~40 degrees away, north of Gemini and east of Auriga.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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Howdy, SK.

Re: The question in your OP (and the thread title), the answer is no, one astronomical object cannot hide behind another for very long - a few seconds for an asteroid occultation, ~and hour for something passing behind the Moon, and a few hours for Ganymede or Callisto to pass behind Jupiter.

The reason is because of the way orbits work. Something orbiting far beyond something else is moving at a totally different speed. These objects (even large gas giant planets) are so small compared to the distances involved that the length of an occultation is pretty short.

The best cases I can come up with are the second-two examples in the first paragraph (above). The Moon travels its own diameter (~half-a-degree) across the sky approximately every hour. Even the closest planets (Venus & Mars) move only a very small fraction of that in an hour. So a lunar occultation of a planet (even under the best circumstances) would only last a few seconds longer than a lunar occultation of a star fixed against the background sky.

In the case of Jupiter, it is a very large planet, and the moons that I named orbit more than a million miles from it. When their orbits take them behind Jupiter (as viewed from Earth), they are moving across the sky in the same direction. The moons move slightly faster (equal to Jupiter's orbital velocity plus their own). Even so, they only stay hidden for a few hours.

If one planet were to pass in front of another (this is very rare, but it does happen), the different speeds (due to their different distances from the Sun) would cause one to pass the other in a short time, then they would separate.

Here's another thing to consider: The Earth is moving around the Sun in an elliptical orbit. Thus, compared to the planets orbiting slower because they are further from the Sun, the Earth is going this way and that. Therefore, if the motions of the Earth and the two other bodies somehow synch-up their motions for an extended occultation, the Earth soon changes its direction, so that they lose this synch, and because of their different speed, the next time the Earth comes around, they have changed positions so that the synch will not reoccur.

I hope this makes some sort of sense. I've been up all night.

Yours is a good question. Cheers!



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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I dunno, I guess it's mathematicly possible for 3 objects to interact in such a way that one is constantly blocking out the other. THink of it like this, you get a straight bar, hold it in the middle and turn the bar. Now, lets say that the pivot is a planet, and one end is us, the other.... CERTAIN DEATH!!
Now, as CD goes one way, we go the other, and the middle "object" could block it. I'm not saying that this is the case. But it is do-able. (highly unlikely, but do-able)



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 07:42 PM
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That is not only correct, it also gave me a badly-needed chuckle.
It is mathematically possible to have two objects orbiting the same central body, 180-degrees apart in a circular orbit. Of course, in the real world, perfect things get mucked-up almost instantly (don't we all know it); but in this case, reality turns out to be much more interesting.

The above setup only stays stable if the orbits are precisely aligned, and no outside force acts on them. In our solar system, the other planets (particularly Jupiter, which is more massive than all the rest put together) are just that outside force. Even small gravitational interactions, after hundreds of millions of years (and millions of trips around the Sun), add up to significant changes. In our example, Earth and "CD" get pulled at different times and by different amounts, so their perfect alignment falls apart as the two worlds settle into different orbits.

It sounds like things should get more and more chaotic, and for a while, it does. The early solar system was cluttered, and interactions common. Each planetesimal had one of three fates: Either it got ejected completely from the Solar System, or it collided with other objects, forming larger asteroids & planets, or it settled into an orbit that was less sussceptible to interactions (This last one needs some more thought. An orbit that is more elliptical is more likely to cross other orbits and therefore interact. Conversely, a more circular orbit is less likely to interact, and is therefore more stable). As the eons pass, everything that isn't ejected or "collected" by a larger planet (at high speed
) settles into an orbit that is almost circular (the process is still going on - every time you see a "shooting star" you witness the Solar System evolving a little more).

As a side note: Generally speaking, the more trips around the Sun an object makes, the more interactions it has and the more likely it is to find one of the three "fates". Thus, objects in the outer solar system move more slowly, complete fewer orbits per unit time, take longer to settle and are more numerous. This is why Gerard Kuiper predicted a large number of small frozen objects in the outer solar system 40 years before the first "Kuiper Belt" object was identified.

Anyway, back to our example. We last left Earth and it nemesis in orbits that were close, but not quite identical. Inevitably, one of them (let's say "CD") will orbit slightly closer to the Sun, and therefore orbit faster (I'll say that again - objects in lower orbits move faster. Now, think about how hard you have to throw a rock to make it go higher. You have to add energy (i.e. accellerate) to raise an orbit, where it will move more slowly. It sounds paradoxical, and even the early astronauts didn't get it, but it works).
"CD", moving faster, slowly catches up with Earth. You'd think they'd simply collide, but because they are almost in the same orbit, something cooler happens: As they get closer, they start to gravitationally interact. Earth, in the lead, pulls "CD" towards it, accellerating it so that "CD" moves into a higher orbit, where it moves more slowly. Meanwhile, "CD" tugs on Earth from behind, robbing it of energy. Earth then drops to a very slightly lower orbit, where it moves faster. Thus the two worlds draw together, interact, switch places and Earth ends up in the inner, faster orbit and pulls ahead of "CD". Several hundred laps around the Sun later, it is Earth that comes up from behind "Certain Death" (whose name, we realize, is now inaccurate). They interact with the roles reversed, switch orbits again, and pull apart.

Two pairs of Saturn's moons have "reversing orbits" like these. Though she didn't know it when she wrote it, Anne McCafferey's Pern and the "Red Star" do this too.

[edit on 7-4-2010 by Saint Exupery]



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 02:06 AM
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Of course they've found it! They found it in 1983. They've been tracking it ever since! But they aren't going to tell us, are they. They've spent TRILLIONS of $, just to save their own butts. Bush has bought land in Paraguay, so has the Rev Moon, the Queen has bought land near Denver. Wise up!

mclinking



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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How do you know a new planet has been found and is being tracked?

If it is being tracked, then it can be seen. Any object of any size would become quickly visible to amateur astronomers. There are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands that would quickly realize that a new bright object was in the sky. I guess you have no idea how bright it would appear. You should go out and take a look at Venus or Saturn tonight.



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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I you take the time to read the link I offer you would learn that an event happended which left me with a question.

I made this thread to speculate about the possibility if it was possible, could a similar event hide the mysterious 10th planet ( or planet X ).




posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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Nothing can hide behind another in the solar system for any length of time. The best that something can be hid is to hide behind the largest object in the solar system and that is the sun. Due to the brightness of the sun viewing in that direction is restricted. Eventually though the earth swings around the sun and reveals the other 'side' of the universe that was hidden by the sun.

Anyone taking a look at the apparent path of the planets soon sees that hiding is not possible for any length of time since the planets do not make smooth paths through the sky. The motion of the earth and the planets gives an apparent motion that is anything but smooth.

See Apparent retrograde motion



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:02 AM
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Yes they told me


We already were speculating about several different object which would replace each other and so blocking our view.

But fair enough.

This idea has been proven not to be.

Ahhh... True science in progress. stripping away the ideas one at the time.


Seriously. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:13 AM
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I posted in another thread a study out of Hawaii that concludes that no planets could be within 320 AU (astronomical units) of the sun. Pluto is 39AU out. SO planets have to be really, really far out.

PROJECT PAN-STARRS AND THE OUTER SOLAR SYSTEM

It's amazing what can be seen by astronomers today. Even backyard astronomers can see many fascinating objects in our solar system and are often responsible for finding new comets.



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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I think you might be interested in a thread I've made about brown dwarfs.

I posted in an early reply a vidio with our solar neighborhood showing the brown dwarfs in it.
The universe leaves us in awh... after new discovery of brown dwarf binairy star system.

I believe all these new discoveries are amazing.



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by theability
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Sinter Klass: Let me just say I am in belief the universe does what it wishes, and humans can continue to believe that their the top of evolution and the only life in the galaxy.

With that said, anything is possible!





Anything is possible the BS phrase that Nibiru,2012, and a lot of UFO threads rely on. So come on Nibiru believers the challange is a picture, a date indeed any proof what so ever re Nibiru it might be almost believable if all you guys claimed it was in the same location or even the same type of object
I wont hold my breath waiting for evidence!!!

ps faith doesn't count because thats not proof of anything including god.



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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Hi there .

What the ability meant to say that any given scenario is possible in our huge and still for the most part not understand universe.

The claim for the existence of Niburu is not an issue here.
After a misunderstanding from another member who thought to ridicule the Niburu believers. We kept the subject out of this thread.

An opinion on thread is of course appreciated .

thank you




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