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Chief Hayden

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posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by gavron
Correct, The fire chief was not lying when he told them to pull the rescue teams from the area. Did I say the fire chief was lying? No, I did not.


Sorry but by the fire chiefs own statement the rescue teams were evacuated BEFORE the call to the owner.

SO you are calling chief Nigro a lier. Where is your proof?




[edit on 13-4-2010 by REMISNE]




posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by REMISNE
Sorry but by the fire chiefs own statement the rescue teams were evacuated BEFORE the call to the owner.


Not according to you here. I'll bold where you state different:


Originally posted by REMISNE
1. Chief Nigro who evacuated the firemen before talking to the owner then became the fire comander and called the owner to tell hiim they could not safe his building.

2. Chief hayden was still getting his men out of the safety zone area and trying to keep water going to the engines when the call was made, so he probably did not know what the fire commander decided to do.



So, looks like the teams were NOT evacuated before the call. Those are your words.



posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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reply to post by REMISNE
 


I remain unembarrassed.

Are you going to answer the question posed above? You said you were able to show where you had already answered it.



posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by gavron
So, looks like the teams were NOT evacuated before the call. Those are your words.


No, they are not my words.



posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by REMISNE
No, they are not my words.



Shall I link the entire post where you stated that, Roger? It was your own post.



posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by gavron
Shall I link the entire post where you stated that, Roger? It was your own post.


Please go ahead so people can see what i posted and what you stated are different.



posted on Apr, 13 2010 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by REMISNE
Please go ahead so people can see what i posted and what you stated are different.


Your post:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

my post, which quoted yours:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Your words, Roger. Don't you hate it when they come back to bite you?



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by gavron
Your words, Roger. Don't you hate it when they come back to bite you


Can everyone see that gavron cannot tell the difference between evacuating a building and a safety zone?

Can everyone see how dishonest he has been by trying to twist things and putting words in my mouth?



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by REMISNE

Can everyone see that gavron cannot tell the difference between evacuating a building and a safety zone?

Can everyone see how dishonest he has been by trying to twist things and putting words in my mouth?



Actually, I think I've shown exactly what everyone has always known: That the personnel were being "pulled" from the area. Your own link explained that.

Seems hilarious that you provide a link, then when you realize that it destroys your own theory, you try and back-pedal.



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by gavron
Actually, I think I've shown exactly what everyone has always known: That the personnel were being "pulled" from the area. Your own link explained that.


Correct, personnel were pulled away BEFORE the call to the owner Silverstein as Chief Nigro clearly states.


[edit on 14-4-2010 by REMISNE]



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by REMISNE

Originally posted by gavron
Actually, I think I've shown exactly what everyone has always known: That the personnel were being "pulled" from the area. Your own link explained that.


Correct, personnel were pulled away BEFORE the call to the owner Silverstein as Chief Nigro clearly states.


Not according to you:



1. Chief Nigro who evacuated the firemen before talking to the owner then became the fire comander and called the owner to tell hiim they could not safe his building.

2. Chief hayden was still getting his men out of the safety zone area and trying to keep water going to the engines when the call was made, so he probably did not know what the fire commander decided to do.




posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by gavronNot according to you:


Let the record show that gavron cannot read and does not know the difference between a building and a safety zone.



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 08:28 AM
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Double post




[edit on 14-4-2010 by REMISNE]



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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Looks like someone needs to re-read their information concerning the whole "pull it" call. Please show in this quote where it specifies "building":

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse." –Larry Silverstein

This should be easy for you, Roger. Just BOLD the place in that quote where it specifies pulling the men from the building only.



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by gavron
"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse." –Larry Silverstein

This should be easy for you, Roger. Just BOLD the place in that quote where it specifies pulling the men from the building only.


Gee, you completly ignored Chief Nigros satement. The fact that this call to Sivlerstein was made after the firemen were already out of the building.

Also please read the following quote from Silverstein statemant that you posted.


And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.


[edit on 14-4-2010 by REMISNE]



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by REMISNE
Gee, you completly ignored Chief Nigros satement. The fact that this call to Sivlerstein was made after the firemen were already out of the building.


Not according to you....this quote that you made says they were still clearing the area, Roger:



2. Chief hayden was still getting his men out of the safety zone area and trying to keep water going to the engines when the call was made, so he probably did not know what the fire commander decided to do.


When the call was made...



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by gavron
Not according to you....this quote that you made says they were still clearing the area, Roger:


Clearing the AREA,, not the BUILDING, it was already cleared.

Please read the bolded words very carefully until you can understand them.



[edit on 14-4-2010 by REMISNE]



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by REMISNE

Clearing the AREA,, not the BUILDING, it was already cleared.


...according to whom?

You clearly said earlier:


2. Chief hayden was still getting his men out of the safety zone area and trying to keep water going to the engines when the call was made, so he probably did not know what the fire commander decided to do.



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by gavron
...according to whom?


As stated and proven a hundred times.

Chief Nigro.



posted on Apr, 14 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by REMISNE
Chief Nigro.



You might want to check your sources again. I show a quote from someone on the ATS forums named REMISNE that states otherwise:



2. Chief hayden was still getting his men out of the safety zone area and trying to keep water going to the engines when the call was made, so he probably did not know what the fire commander decided to do.



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