posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 08:11 PM
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by centurion1211
If someone uses their title to know their self-worth...and are offended by someone else using that title...then that is a self-confidence issue they
need to work out themselves.
He didn't go around calling himself a Doctor when he is a Lawyer. He called himself a "professor" when he was a "senior lecturer"...do you know
the difference??? One is going to be a lifetime teacher on a tenure track at a college...the other does not have plans to make teaching their career.
They do the exact same job, they have the exact same credentials. Having an official title of "professor" does not grant someone magical abilities
that Obama was trying to claim he had.
that's right, keep lowering your standards as much as it takes to defend obama. You'll find them in the mud in no time if you keep it up.
Your post never answered my questions about whether you would have any problem with a classmate or business associate receiving a grade or promotion
they didn't earn, which perhaps you had worked for hard to achieve for yourself. This is exactly what obama did - or had done for him - at
By your logic, McCain, Hillary, Edwards, etc., can all put POTUS on their resumes.
There are instances in the US system that allows someone who is not tenured to use the term Professor, and in the field of
lecture, not neccesarily vocational research.
So Obama was correctly using the terminology, and according to UOC was offered a tenure,
"The University of Chicago released a statement clarifying Obama's status at the university. He is a senior lecturer and has cited that he is a
constitutional law professor on the trail. That's something that has caused some criticism and allegations of exaggeration. It's something the
Clinton campaign has pushed as well in conference calls with reporters in the past week.
The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election
to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from
1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are
regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies
adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time
teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track
position, but he declined."
You can see the way it works for a University, it would be difficult to tenure a legal eagle, and so for most of them they can only procure
BTW, the above quote is from 2008, and is partly addressing criticism from the Clinton electoral campaign about the Professor title.
[edit on 8-4-2010 by smurfy]