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Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by REMISNE
Surely it is evidence a)that the military had a sense of humour, and b) that they thought UFO's were a joke?
If someone draws a cartoon of a white-bearded man sitting on a cloud, that doesn't necessarily show that the artist believes in God.
Originally posted by WhiteDevil013
Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by REMISNE
Surely it is evidence a)that the military had a sense of humour, and b) that they thought UFO's were a joke?
If someone draws a cartoon of a white-bearded man sitting on a cloud, that doesn't necessarily show that the artist believes in God.
That is what one would think, had there not been NUMEROUS sighting of UFO's by military personnel. My grandfather was in the US Navy, USAF, and worked for Aerospace Contractors, often funded by the govt. He will be the first to tell you that whatever UFO's are, he has personally seen them many times, and so has probably 25% of the armed forces, especially higher ranking, and intelligence officers.
Because of the tense Cold War situation and increased Soviet capabilities, the CIA Study Group saw serious national security concerns in the flying saucer situation. The group believed that the Soviets could use UFO reports to touch off mass hysteria and panic in the United States. The group also believed that the Soviets might use UFO sightings to overload the US air warning system so that it could not distinguish real targets from phantom UFOs. H. Marshall Chadwell, Assistant Director of OSI, added that he considered the problem of such importance "that it should be brought to the attention of the National Security Council, in order that a communitywide coordinated effort towards it solution may be initiated."
Of special concern were overseas reports of UFO sightings and claims that German engineers held by the Soviets were developing a "flying saucer" as a future weapon of war.
Originally posted by peter vlar
Not to ruffle any feathers, but does anyone know when this manual is from? The cartoon appears to look much more like a zeppelin than a UFO.I am in no way trying to insinuate that there aren't UFO's, I'm pretty sure I saw a couple when I was stationed at Ft. Benning. I'm just curious when the manual is from because it could certainly be a depiction of a dirigible.
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Originally posted by Marsel
Originally posted by peter vlar
Not to ruffle any feathers, but does anyone know when this manual is from? The cartoon appears to look much more like a zeppelin than a UFO.I am in no way trying to insinuate that there aren't UFO's, I'm pretty sure I saw a couple when I was stationed at Ft. Benning. I'm just curious when the manual is from because it could certainly be a depiction of a dirigible.
chrisabraham.com...
www.pelgranepress.com...
dude zepelins , dont have windows in that part , pls search some photos of zepelins ....
Originally posted by peter vlar
Originally posted by Marsel
Originally posted by peter vlar
Not to ruffle any feathers, but does anyone know when this manual is from? The cartoon appears to look much more like a zeppelin than a UFO.I am in no way trying to insinuate that there aren't UFO's, I'm pretty sure I saw a couple when I was stationed at Ft. Benning. I'm just curious when the manual is from because it could certainly be a depiction of a dirigible.
chrisabraham.com...
www.pelgranepress.com...
dude zepelins , dont have windows in that part , pls search some photos of zepelins ....
Dude, its a cartoon, not a photo. also, I actually linked photos of American and German made dirigibles. I'm rather well aware of what they look like.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
There are definitely UFOs and the military knows it.
DEPARTMENT Of THE AIR FORCE
HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY
USAF ACADEMY, COLORADO 80840
REPLY TO ATTN OF: OI 4 NOV 1970
In reference to your recent inquiry to the Air Force Academy concerning Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's), the following facts are provided for your information.
The subject of UFO's is examined briefly at the end of an Academy elective course, Physics 370, which usually attracts approximately 20 students per semester. The UFO subject falls under the course objective of discussing all observable or reported physical phenomena occurring from the surface of the sun to the surface of the planets.
When the UFO subject was first included in the course, the subject served, from an academic point of view, to illustrate that when contradictory data are available, the best course is to keep an open mind and search for further data. The subject remains an excellent vehicle to discuss the implications and applications of many basic physical laws to "observed" phenomena.
The source of recent news media stories concerning the study of UFO's at the Air Force Academy was an out-of-date chapter in the course text entitled "Introductory Space Science", a two-volume, 470-page unpublished work printed in a spiral notebook by the Academy for classroom use. The last chapter in the second volume was a 14-page chapter entitled "Unidentified Flying Objects".
When this chapter was written and printed in 1968, the Air Force was still collecting reports of UFO sightings under Project Blue Book and sponsoring the investigation of UFO's by Dr. E. U. Condon of the University of Colorado.
The Condon report was completed in early 1969 with the general conclusion that nothing has come from the study of UFO's in the past two decades that has added to scientific knowledge and that further extensive study of UFO's probably cannot be justified in the expectation that science will be advanced.
33.6 CONCLUSION
From available information, the UFO phenomenon appears to have been global in nature for almost 50,000 years. The majority of known witnesses have been reliable people who have seen easily-explained natural phenomena, and there appears to be no overall possitive correlation with population density. The entire phenomenon could be psychological in nature but that is quite doubtful. However, psychological factors probably do enter the data picture as "noise." The phenomenon could also be entirely due to known and unknown phenomena (with some psychological "noise" added in) but that too is questionable in view of some of the available data.
This leaves us with the unpleasant possibility of alien visitors to our planet, or at least of alien controlled UFO's. However, the data are not well correlated, and what questionable data there are suggest the existence of at least three and maybe four differnet groups of aliens (possibly at different states of development). This too is difficult to accept. It implies the existence of intelligent life on a majority of the planets in our solar system, or a surprisingly strong interest in Earth by members of other solar systems.
A solution to the UFO problem may be obtained by the long and diligent effort of a large group of well financed and competent scientists, unfortunately there is no evidence suggesting that such an effort is going to be made. However, even if such an effort were made, there is no guarantee of success because of the isolated and sporatic nature of the sightings. Also, there may be nothing to find, and that would mean a long search with no profit at the end. The best thing to do is to keep an open and skeptical mind, and not take an extreme position on any side of the question.