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Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
Hyman Brown, is neither an architect nor project engineer for the twin towers, although he was presented as one on 9/11. Here is a video, showing him on NBC, 9/11, 19:51:
Hyman Brown is currently teaching at the Ariel University Center of Samaria in Jerusalem.
"Hyman Brown says the towers were built to withstand 200 mph hurricanes, a 100 year storm -- the worst nature could dish out. But he says an airplane crash never entered anyone's mind."
“The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door -- this intense grid -- and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting.”
Is there a police or alphabet agency movement similar to 'architects and pilots for 9/11 truth'? If not, there should be. Once the arrests start happening, the whole 'house of cards' will start to fall. The Madrid bombings, the British 7/7 bombings and others will be revisited with a very critical eye, and the same process will happen in these countries to root out the conspirators, in Blair's government and agencies. The lack of action from law enforcement and intelligence agencies, unconnected with the conspirators, is frankly pathetic.
Originally posted by Phil Jayhan
My apologies for not putting in the documents themselves in the original post. I just edited it and added them. I had the same reaction you did and checked it out through search but forgot to put the documents up as well. My bad. Here they are.
To see the documents yourselves and see that there were no calls, see these documents; Call duration -0- over and over again.
Documents - No Barbara Olson Phone Call
FBI Compilation of Olson Phone Records
Originally posted by bigyin
reply to post by skeptic_al
I might agree with you if the hijackers were pointing guns or were holding a bomb in their hand .... but a couple of wee knives ... um nope they should of been torn to shreds.
So it was not really that much of a surprise to read this admission by David Ray Griffin on 911 Blogger today:
"My mistake, like that of Henshall and Rowland before me, was to assume that the AA spokesperson and this website were talking about AA 757s as they had always been, not simply about 757s at the time of the query, in 2004.
But the latter was evidently the meaning. Elias Davidsson, an Icelandic member of the 9/11 truth movement, sent me a story from February 6, 2002, which said: “American Airlines will discontinue its AT&T in-flight phone service by March 31, a spokesman for the airline said Wednesday.” Davidsson also reported a 1998 photograph of the inside of an AA 757 showing that it did have seat-back phones."
Of course, with their ever moving goalposts, Griffin goes on to argue that this doesn't make any difference since the calls never happened for other reasons.
As I said, the difference between a scientific theory and a conspiracy theory, is the ability to make good predictions. I can almost always predict the logical fallacies that conspiracy theorists will make. This is not some special gift of mine, it is simply a matter of applying consistent logic to proper research. For them, predictions are meaningless, because they will always draw the same conclusions no matter what evidence they base it on. If the evidence points one way, it was a US government conspiracy, if the evidence points the exact opposite way, it still was a US government conspiracy. That is the essence of conspiracy theories.