Originally posted by C0bzz
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I really don't know what to say. Well, I"m disgusted. I feel sick. I am angry that such stupidity can occur. The helicopter essentially fires on a
group of unarmed people for no reason. Although some people looked like they had guns, they were for the most part unarmed and completely peaceful.
Then a Van comes and they shoot that too, killing children.
[edit on 5/4/2010 by C0bzz]
I watched the video, and I did see one man with an AK-47. The thing is, I've seen on the Military channel, how our own soldiers say that all Iraqi
men are allowed to carry weapons to defend themselves. So, why is having an AK-47 so bad...even if the US is fighting in the area. The Iraqis surely
do not know what is going on if they hear gunfire. I mean, if they were an insurgent force, they would be well armed, and would not be out in the
open. Insurgents are not that stupid, and know what kind of forces the US can bring to bear. The sad thing is that most of the men that were
slaughtered had no weapons. If our own soldiers cannot distinguish a medium sized camera from a large RPG, we are in serious trouble. Poor training,
horrific SA (situational awareness), lowbrow humor (unacceptable in my book while trying to size up a military action in an urban area)...I could go
on and on.
Our soldiers have the best technology in the world, yet do not utilize it in the way that it should be utilized. The Apache pilots were in no real
danger, yet acted as if the unarmed men were ready to sprout wings and fly up in the air to attack them. They had all the time in the world, even if
US troops were near. US troops were not being engaged by this group of men, and civilians (who are allowed to carry weaponry), should not be fair
game in an urban area, unless they are actively engaging our troops.
Oh, and you said the kids were dead. No, they actually survived...the boy and the girl are alive and well, with only mental/physical scars to show
for it. It's quite amazing, really. Watch the video again, and notice how accurate those 30mm shells are in the initial firing on the group of men
(I know, it made me sick, but you should do this). Then watch when they fire on the van with the kids. The 30mm shells go all over the place,
compared to all previous firings, even though the helicopter itself does not seem to be experiencing movement. One shell, even goes way off course,
to the left of the van. Is this the sign of something higher protecting these small children? I believe so (I believe in God, but I am of no
established religion...I have my own belief system). It is almost as if someone pushes some of the shells away from the van. The van should have
been completely torn to pieces, as 30mm shells can destroy armored vehicles when firing from that high. This is a paper thin van.
So, what should be done? I think that whatever division these men are a part of should have it's leadership sacked. No real questions from HQ about
what the Apache pilots were firing at...just an automatic yes? Refusing small children aid, when it was our own fault they were hurt? More poor
leadership. Then the cover up, obviously poor leadership trying to cover up their poor leadership.
We shouldn't even be over there anymore, I am so tired of hearing that we are there. This only proves why we shouldn't be there.
[edit on 10-4-2010 by Yog-Sothoth]