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Originally posted by neformore
Not going to debate the technicalities of the video.
Am going to quote this
# Article 3 states that even where there is not a conflict of international character the parties must as a minimum adhere to minimal protections described as: noncombatants, members of armed forces who have laid down their arms, and combatants who are hors de combat (out of the fight) due to wounds, detention, or any other cause shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, with the following prohibitions:
You can paint what happened any way you want to, but opening fire on the van was a clear violation of Article 3 of the Fourth Geneva Convention as no hostile act was undertaken whatsoever by the driver of the van, the people helping him or the person they were helping.
Originally posted by ashnomadonte
reply to post by andy1972
sure am happy! and I sleep well at night to! just so you know I don't feel sorry for these people. and who the heck brings kids to a fire fight? why would you do that I know I would not.
Originally posted by klhix
If you watch the video carefully you will notice this easily. As far as weapons or no weapons controversy @ 19:25min in video, a ground troop radios to helicopter or other supporting ground unit, " Six, this is four. I got one individual looks like he's got an RPG round laying under him".
I would say that is absolute proof that the group were armed with a weapon that could hit one of the helicopters. That is cause and justification for engagement.
As for the people in the van... It was not an ambulance....
When the ground troops were ordered in, the first order was get pictures. And just after 19:25 you can see a marine taking photos and walking around with a camera. One more thing, an Ak was identified, an RPG was identified, but nobody on the ground radioed in tripods, camerabags, or Nikon camera's.
Originally posted by inbound
MSNBC is covering the story right now