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Originally posted by thomas_
reply to post by Jay-morris
Honestly what exactly would change if the authorities decided to say that aliens are for real?
Would that change anything for those who believe in their existence?
I doubt it. It would change things for those who don't believe in aliens and no one else.
And mostly because after that any alien believer will point their fingers at the non-believer and say "I told you so, you're stupid!".
With or without disclosure as long real alien contact isn't made with the masses nothing really changes.
So make up your mind on the subject and quit waiting for someone to tell you the truth
For, a Martian moon that is demonstrably "1/3 hollow" ... as measured by two totally independent space programs, and separated by ~20 yars ... under ANY likely astrophysical formation scenario CANNOT EXIST ... as just a "natural" moon! It simply can't.
Originally posted by thomas_
And my I ask what on what his doppler is based on?
Because sound in space is a no go, light waves wouldn't make much sense , and radio waves which are basically electro magnetic waves could and probably would react differently when "shocking" with materials with properties that we may not know or understand yet.
How can be so sure that the Phobos is hollow when he doesn't really know the true composition of it's interior and fully understands who such composite works and behaves in space?
What if it's interior is composed of a material that changes electro magnetic waves in way that we don't know yet?
I would say that basing your argument over reflectance data from a material composition that you don't really know about or fully understand in it's context is way too much of guess work in my opinion.
anyway... I'll try to read the whole thing tomorrow.
Originally posted by dampnickers
The great problem that we here at ATS have is that we haven't actually been there.
As such, we can only rely on second and third hand information.
We could do with a central fund, and some plucky volunteers to actually go to Mars, and the associated moons, to get photos and video to beam back to this site with!!! That would settle most debates along these lines rather quickly.
Although, it would probably open up many more debates too.
Originally posted by GW8UK
Originally posted by MrVertigo
Here's an interesting video with Buzz Aldrin that you've probably seen but what the heck:
I think its interesting watching Buzz's eyes throughout that video. They are dead set on the camera till he says there is a monolith on phobos, he then looks to his left and immediatly says its natural.
Down and To the Right
Indicates: Internal Dialog (Ai)
This is the direction of someone eyes as they "talk to themselves".
A typical left-handed person would have the opposite meanings for their eye-directions.
Down and to the Left Indicates: Feeling / Kinesthetic (F) If you asked someone to "Can you remember the smell of a campfire? ", this would be the direction their eyes moved in while thinking about the question as they used recalled a smell, feeling, or taste.
Looking straight ahead or with eyes that are defocused/unmoving is also considered a sign of visual accessing.
Also on board is a new exercise machine, which is part of ongoing studies into the effects of long-term space flight on muscle and bone loss in astronauts.
Originally posted by guyopitz
maybe its like a huge geode its a rock thats hollow in the middle with a lot of crystal structure. Thats what they are saying. It's hollow with 90 degree angles. Just like a geode. Not necessarily an alien ship. I think this more than anything else is reason to go explore. We need to send people to mars and do some drilling in this 'moon' Lets go see it for ourselves. I'd gladly volunteer for the mission If they would have me.
Originally posted by ucalien
reply to post by LiveForever8
Phobos hollow body... First person to expose this: Col. Marina "Lady MIG" Popovich.
Here's a hypothesis:
If you can make a reasoned argument against these points, do it.
Originally posted by freighttrain
Believe me it's tough trying to lie and control your eye movements, unless you have miraculous control over your emotions/thoughts and body this will be a very difficult to control.