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. . . the American-led military command in Kabul admitted late on Sunday that its forces had, in fact, killed the women during the nighttime raid.
The admission immediately raised questions about what really happened during the Feb. 12 operation — and what falsehoods followed — including a new report that Special Operations forces
dug bullets out of the bodies of the women
to hide the true nature of their deaths.
A NATO official also said Sunday in an interview that an Afghan-led team of investigators had found signs of
at the scene, including the removal of bullets from walls near where the women were killed. A senior NATO official later denied on Monday that any evidence tampering occurred.
survivors of the raid said that the special operations forces denied the wounded medical treatment and prevented survivors from going to get medical help for an extended period of time, during which one of the women and one of the men who were mortally wounded died.
That means special operations forces were busy digging bullets out of walls and/or people to cover their asses while the innocent people they shot bled to death.
Originally posted by slank
This just enrages me.
WTF is wrong with you America?
End these monsters in your very midsts who instead of being honored should be tried & executed.
Originally posted by MattMulder
Yeah, right, and then they ate the flesh of unborn babies to cover that up.
Come on guys, can't you see the Afghans are playing with your will to keep fighting in the Stan ?
If I see one picture of a bullet-riddled pregnant woman body, I'll buy the story. Meanwhile, I'll just say yellow journalism has still a long prosperous life ahead.
Originally posted by harrytuttle
Thanks for bringing sanity to this thread.
I had to be reminded that U.S. Troops are there in Afghanistan to spread candy and fluffy marshmallows alongside the chocolate tiled highway system they are laying down over there.
I forgot that the Special Forces are the elite forces whose "specialty" is artfully applying colorful sprinkles on the gum drops left by the Air Force.
And for a minute there, I almost bought that New York Times story that the Special Forces are over there to spread death and destruction and cover their asses in the event they kill civilians.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
The main question is IF (big if) this is all true is whether it is the personal act of individuals, or sanction acts of established official doctrine.
Originally posted by harrytuttle
Well, that's an easy one to answer for you.
Bush started this war, Obama is continuing it. The U.S. Government doesn't get to act like an irresponsible child who gets to pick and choose which killings they'll accept responsibility for and which they'll blame on "bad apples".
Meanwhile, women and children are dying.
So you ask who is to blame, the soldiers (because they disobeyed "orders"), or their Commanders (because they authorized those soldiers to kill those people)?
The answer is crystal clear: Soldiers can NEVER be wrong in this "War on Terror" because the U.S. Government has told them that the enemy can be anyone.
They say Terrorists can be ANYBODY at ANYTIME. The ENEMY doesn't wear a uniform. The ENEMY can be a woman with a bomb in her bra.
Basically, the U.S. Government tells their soldiers and citizens and law enforcement that TERRORISTS could be anyone.
So when the U.S. Government sends troops into that kind of insane scenario, insane things are going to happen.
And that, by definition, means it is official doctrine.
Joint Force Operating in Gardez Makes Gruesome Discovery KABUL, Afghanistan (Feb. 12) - An Afghan-international security force found the bound and gagged bodies of three women during an operation in the Gardez district, Paktiya Province last night.
The joint force went to a compound near the village of Khatabeh, after intelligence confirmed militant activity. Several insurgents engaged the joint force in a fire fight and were killed.Subsequently, a large number of men, women, and children exited the compound, and were detained by the joint force. When the joint force entered the compound they conducted a thorough search of the area, and found the bodies of three women who had been tied up, gagged and killed. The bodies had been hidden in an adjacent room.
ISAF Rejects Cover Up Allegation KABUL, Afghanistan (March 13) - The allegation made by Times UK reporter Jerome Starkey that NATO "covered up" an incident that was conducted outside Gardez in Paktia province is categorically false...
...The statement in the initial press release that the women had been "tied up, gagged and killed" came from initial operational reports. Based on subsequent reviews, those reports were based on a lack of understanding of local burial practices. The women's feet had been tied, and they had cloth straps that immobilized their jaws, evidently in preparation for burial.
Gardez Investigation Concludes KABUL, Afghanistan (Apr. 4) - A thorough joint investigation into the events that occurred in the Gardez district of Paktiya Province Feb. 12, has determined that international forces were responsible for the deaths of three women who were in the same compound where two men were killed by the joint Afghan-international patrol searching for a Taliban insurgent.
The two men, who were later determined not to be insurgents, were shot and killed by the joint patrol after they showed what appeared to be hostile intent by being armed. While investigators could not conclusively determine how or when the women died, due to lack of forensic evidence, they concluded that the women were accidentally killed as a result of the joint force firing at the men.
Originally posted by Drunkenshrew
The part of the story, where the woman and man died, while the murderers were covering up their errors is not yet confirmed. But the rest is bad enough. Killing pregnant women and a teenage girl at a family celebration and then trying to sell it as honour killing or strange burial custom is disgusting.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
US troops have taken a back seat in most operations while only monitoring the ANA unless directly engaged.