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A planet cannot be within 340AU of the sun. A brown dwarf, that is something much larger, has to be further out than 340AU.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Unity_99
1. Spirals are a common art form and have nothing to do with a failed rocket launch seen in Norway.
2. Whale fossils in the interior of land masses are due to dried up seas and are millions of years old
3. Ice core samples from the interior of continents are fresh water
4. There is no land at the north pole
5. Antarctica has moved due to plate tectonics
6. The sun rises from different locations due to the tilt of the earth
There is no record of a global flood. It never happened. Go ahead and pick a date. The creationists did. Too bad for them there are known archaeological sites spanning that time with known continuous habitation.
None of these issues has anything to do with the established fact that orbit perturbations restrict planets out at least as far as 340AU.
So take the time to learn. It will make you feel good.
Let's Look at the Evidence:
The following are 18 Evidences of either massive flooding and erosion, extremely rapid layering of strata, or direct evidence of a Worldwide Flood. Such evidences are found in numerous places on virtually every Continent.
One of the strongest pieces of evidence for a worldwide flood is the existence of what Rupke termed "polystrate fossils." Such fossils are found all over the world. They usually consist of fossil trees that were buried upright, and which often traverse multiple layers of strata such as sandstone, limestone, shale, and even coal beds. 1,2,3,4 They range in size from small rootlets to trees over 80 feet long. 3 Sometimes they are oblique in relation to the surrounding strata, but more often they are perpendicular to it. For example, at Joggins, Nova Scotia, polystrate tree (and root) fossils are found at various intervals throughout roughly 2,500 feet of strata. Many of these are from 10-20 feet long, 5,6 and, at least one was 40 feet long. ...
Many of these roots and rootlets, are also buried individually. 9 This strongly suggests that these trees did not grow in the same places where they were buried, but rather were uprooted and re-deposited there....
Similar circumstances occur at various other places in Nova Scotia, as well as in the United States, England, Germany, and France. Another place where large tree stumps are preserved without their roots attached is Axel Heiberg 10,11 Island in Northern Canada.....
More Fossil Whales:
"In bogs covering glacial deposits in Michigan, skeletons of two whales were discovered ... How did they come to Michigan in the post-glacial epoch? Glaciers do not carry whales, and the ice sheet would not have brought them to the middle of a continent... Was there a sea in Michigan after the glacial epoch, only a few thousand years ago?"
"Bones of Whale have been found 440 feet above sea level, north of Lake Ontario; a skeleton of another whale was discovered in Vermont, more than 500 feet above sea level; and still another in the Montreal-Quebec area, about 600 feet above sea level..."
Marine Fossils In The Mountains:
In Mountains all over the world one can find sea shells and other marine fossils. These include the Sierras, the Swiss Alps, the Himalayas and many more. 49,50,51,52,53 For more on this subject see the following video 54 by Dr. Walter Brown....
"In the rock on the summit of Mont de Sautenay -- a flat-topped hill near Chalonsur-Saone between Dijon and Lyons -- there is a fissure filled with animal bones. 'Why should so many wolves, bears, horses, and oxen have ascended a hill isolated on all sides?' asked Albert Gaudry, professor at the Jardin des Plantes. According to him, the bones in this cleft are mostly broken and splintered into innumerable... fragments and are 'evidently not those of animals devoured by beasts of prey; nor have they been broken by man. Nevertheless, the remains of wolf were ... abundant, together with those of cave lion, bear, rhinoceros, horse, ox, and deer... Prestwich thought that the animal bones... were found in common heaps because, '... [they] had fled [there] to escape the rising waters.'"
I had predicted you would find peaks when I did my Ph.D. dissertation on this topic at Portland State University and later the data came out, and indeed, there were peaks. .... One of them is around 26,000 to 28,000 years, which is approximating the precessional cycle of the Earth. In fact, the two tend to match up in a certain way which is very interesting.
Another is around 11,500 years. And the third one is around 5,700 years, which is close to the Mayan calendar cycle. And you see that there was a major event at the end of the Ice Age between 11,000 and 16,000 years ago, and that we’re in fact overdue now for another one.
There were smaller events. You see a small event around 5,300 years ago; it lasted maybe 20 years or so. There’s also very small events – averaging every 500 years or so – since then. There were 14 small puffs of gas that were emitted from the galactic center, which indicates [that] it was active, but it wasn’t active enough to create a peak that you could see in the [ice] record....
KC: Okay. So when you say there’s a small event, what is a small event comprised of? How does that affect the Earth? PLV: The small event that happened 5,300 years ago, it was just a little spike and it was easily missed. It was only seen because this particular researcher did a very detailed study of the [ice] core and they found it – without remarking what it was. I was the one that called attention to it.
At the same time, another researcher found that the climate cooled inexplicably at that time and became dry. In fact, in the Andes they found... Lonnie Thompson, a glaciologist who I worked with at the time I was doing my Ph.D. research, he was the one who sent me samples from the Camp Century ice core that I had analyzed.
His team found actual vegetation frozen in the ice, sort of like flash-frozen, it still had a green color, you know, as if there were some hail storm at that time. It’s the same year they found the Ice Man; the Ice Man in the Alps dates to about the same time. So it seems like there were sudden blizzards that occurred about that time.
The “Shifting Poles Theory” was introduced by History Professor, Charles H. Hapgood, whose fascination with geography and ancient maps led to his re-discovery of the Piri Re’is Map...
On closer scrutiny, Hapgood observed evidence of spherical trigonometry and a detailed knowledge of global geography– including the coastline of Antarctica at a remote time, when it was free of ice.
The map had been drawn just a few years after Columbus visited the Americas. The cartographer, Admiral Piri Re’is, described his world map as having been drawn from “very old” reference maps. It appeared as if some ancient, forgotten civilization had risen to these capabilities, and then had disappeared. The identity of these ancient mariners begged to be discovered. ..
The same mapping has revealed recent changes in the habitable areas along the oceanic coastlines. Stone structures and a pyramid lie just off the coast of Bimany. Submerged forests have recently been found off the coastline of America’s Northwest. Petroglyphs in Hawaii, carved into stone, are now covered by meters of the Pacific Ocean — evidence of a lower ocean level. So while there is yet no sunken Atlantis, there does appear to be evidence of some dramatic changes to both the ocean levels and climates in our planet’s recent history....
The Thin Skin Under Our Feet
Examining the ocean floor had many benefits to science. For geologists, it was the final piece of a puzzle that would explain how the Earth might be constructed. Their model started with an extremely hot core of dense iron and radioactive (heavy) elements. Encapsulating this hot and dense core, there is a thick liquid made of molten minerals called magma — the same red material that oozes out of volcanoes as lava. A good part of our planet is made of this magma (called the mantle, which is thousands of kilometers thick). Surrounding this mantle is a thin crust of colder, solid minerals. This crust is like a thin skin that floats on the fluid magma. The skin is cracked and broken into several sections called “plates.” We all live on this thin crust, on one of these plates. ..
Poles in the past
A pole shift would displace the Earth’s crust around the inner mantle, resulting in crustal rocks being exposed to magnetic fields of a different direction. Hapgood demonstrated his theory by documenting three Earth crust displacements in the last 100,000 years.
Position #1: 63 degrees N, 135 degrees W. From the Yukon area of North America at about 80,000 B.P.(before present era) and moving east by 75,000 B.P to the Greenland Sea.
Position #2: 72 degrees N, 10 degrees E. From the Greenland Sea, starting at about 55,000 B.P. and then moving south-west by 50,000 B.P. towards what is now Hudson Bay.
Position #3: 60 degrees N, 73 degrees W. From the Hudson Bay area at about 17,000 B.P. and moving north to its present location by about 12,000 B.P.
Position #4: The current position.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by ET_MAN
Read the articles I linked to and learn why nothing as large as a planet cannot be within 340AU.
Enjoy reading real evidence. You'll like it.
In a polar region there is continual deposition of ice, which is not symmetrically distributed about the pole. The earth’s rotation acts on these unsymmetrically deposited masses, and produces centrifugal momentum that is transmitted to the rigid crust of the earth. The constantly increasing centrifugal momentum produced in this way will, when it has reached a certain point, produce a movement of the earth’s crust over the rest of the earth’s body.
However, in his subsequent work The Path of the Pole, Hapgood conceded Einstein's point that the weight of the polar ice would be insufficient to bring about a polar shift.
Can brown dwarfs be seen by the naked eye?
Can you see Jupiter with the naked eye? Time for you to dope slap your forehead and say "doh!"