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White Guilt Awareness Day

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posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
I was born white, denied a college scholarship because of racial quotas, was qualified for a position at a local company but denied promotion because of racial quotas.

I don't know what my ancestors did, but because I am white I will pay the price.

I'm white so I am already privileged, I have more opportunities in life, so I've been told.

I am white so anything I say here must be racially motivated.

I am white and if I criticize our president, I must be a racist.

I am white so I am guilty.

I am white guilt.



Good post. Government bureaucrats want to destroy so many white people it seems to make up for what happened years ago.

I am just so glad i will never bring someone into this world, where for no reason other then your origins your destroyed, by people you never ever meet or talk to even.




posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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And the effect that the media has on all of us.

I actually debated posting to this thread. Afraid of being viewed as racist for even broaching the subject.

I hate to be diverted so easily.



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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The whole "white guilt" thing always seems to me to be a transparent, inane, rhetorical bit someone might find on a "white power" flyer at a county fair in the rural south.

I am white...I am also a genealogist and can trace my heritage back 350 years to my first ancestor that landed in modern day maryland. I am proud of that.

I am mostly Scottish, english, germanic in ethnicity...My ancestors proudly fought in the revolutionary war.

That said...I am as white as snow...and have never in my life felt "white guilt"...I have though numerous times in my life felt affronted at seeing fellow Americans treated differently because of the color of thier skin and am a strong advocate of constantly being vigilant in holding true to our American ideals and rooting out intolerance and ignorance wherever it is found.

White guilt?...I have yet to meet anyone that feels "white guilt".



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by poet1b
This whole white privilege stuff is really bad for everyone. Not only is it simply not true, but it will only serve to make things worse by amplifying conflicts and blocking progress.


But it IS true. There ARE areas where white people have privileges, special benefits, etc. Denying that is just willful ignorance. But there's "minority privilege", too! Where minorities are treated with privileges and benefits. But they're different privileges.




Sure people are falling all over themselves giving me opportunities.(Sarcasm)



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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this is so racist. i cant believe im reading this. oh wait, im not. im just trying to get tha 20 posts in. but my opinion is that this is racist and doesnt belong on ats.



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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Have you ever been affronted by some elitist looking down on white people at county fairs in the rural south?



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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throwing in my 2 cents in here


im ant and slave owner i feel guilt





the secret life of ants


Army ants close-up (using themselves like a barrier fence to herd there slaves across the road ! yahoo partners let git em across round them up !


we are not the only one on earth that had slaves are we like Insects Ants Bees

we the humans are living in a hive structure right from white blue etc.. collar groups to the high elite farmers soldiers workers engineers medics nanny's etc.. we can learn a lot from Ants and the Bees en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 09:09 PM
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Inevitably wouldnt people in the future all blend into a single race if the world keeps getting smaller with advances in people being in contact with people from all over then one day we can all be guilty of the misdeeds of the long dead white race and long dead every race cause we will have melded into a single race. Of course something like this isnt going to happen over night and may take along time to get there and maybe for survivability of single racial attributes TPTB want to keep us segregated so this will never happen. Just a thought, and heck yeah in the words of mighty meatwad "He** yeah imma dirty white boy"



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by ZenaV
Oh, boo hoo. What don't ya cry about it saddle-bags. Whites are full of a bunch of whiners and boasters as well as theives. Sure I've got a lot of that blood but I also have blood of the natives of America, Choctaws. And when they started invading here they were theivin' and killing us Indians. As well as marrying Indian ladies to take their property. Guess I had one of those white ancestor theives. Makes me feel sick. If I could go back in time and whop his behind, I surely would. Better study our Civil War history. There's still anger that is righteous over your ancestor's acts...not that that Civil war is over!
Happy Easter. Hope Jesus returns soon and he will defend the righteous...not the liars!


Ummm... you do realize that Indians raided and pillaged each others' lands and villages constantly for food, status, horses, women, slaves, etc.?

Also that the American Indian actually came from another continent many many many centuries ago... probably invading and taking over.... so ... technically, they were socalled thieves, too.

Hello, it is human nature to covet. Covet thy neighbor, their possessions, etc. It is not a WHITE MAN thing it is just a MAN (as in human race) thing. If you feel sick then you hate yourself and you need counseling.

Personally, I am of mixed descent and proud of each ancestral tie. Not because they were raiders but because each had good qualities. Each WERE RAIDERS, the American Cherokee, the Anglos', and who knows what else is in my mixing pot... so to speak. Personally, I am American. Not American Indian American, not Anglo American... just American.



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 10:54 PM
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I personally feel zero guilt in regard to black slavery....i can't think of one damn Italian that owned a slave...so who cares...in fact slavery goes on to this very day IN AFRICA..these people don't care about their own people..so whatever.

What IS true however is the American blacks shame of slavery...the anger they feel is mos def related to the shame of being enslaved by what they 'feel' is a weaker race (whites)...meanwhile their own people handed them over to the white traders willingly. So, horrible business..but not entirely the white mans burden.



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 10:59 PM
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posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by 23refugee
And the effect that the media has on all of us.

I actually debated posting to this thread. Afraid of being viewed as racist for even broaching the subject.

I hate to be diverted so easily.


I was reluctant to post the thread myself because of the same fears. But if we all continue to be afraid and stay silent, the "white guilt" phenomenon will reach a point beyond despair. I have had enough of all the distrust and envy automatically directed at white people because they were born with pale skin. I have had enough of being told that I should feel bad and guilty about what others with the same colour skin as me did to other people in the past. I have had enough of being told I am not allowed to have an opinion on a subject because "my ancestors" did all these bad things to other people.

[edit on 6/4/2010 by Dark Ghost]



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 07:20 AM
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posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by jeddun
I personally feel zero guilt in regard to black slavery....i can't think of one damn Italian that owned a slave...so who cares...in fact slavery goes on to this very day IN AFRICA..these people don't care about their own people..so whatever.


what are you kidding me ! seriously you need to trace back to the Roman Empire ! feed them to the lions hey Spartacus someone said your not a slave well also trace back to Roman rule for 500 years over Britain
and think about Irish Famine as the British Roman descendants made the Irish starve to death and took there land for crop profit for themselves and other country's how would i know ? My family name came over to Canada side during the Irish Famine en.wikipedia.org... then they were like slaves to the British Roman descent Empire as the Irish did not own the property the lived and farmed on and not even the crops the tilled did they own it was the land owners (Scots-English ) that did




What IS true however is the American blacks shame of slavery...the anger they feel is mos def related to the shame of being enslaved by what they 'feel' is a weaker race (whites)...meanwhile their own people handed them over to the white traders willingly. So, horrible business..but not entirely the white mans burden.



true by white traders Spanish Mostly and English ,French, and a few Israelite's



[edit on 6-4-2010 by Wolfenz]



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 07:56 AM
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"I was reluctant to post the thread myself because of the same fears. But if we all continue to be afraid and stay silent, the "white guilt" phenomenon will reach a point beyond despair."

Oh please. I hope that you are being sarcastic. Take a look on ATS which white person has thrown themselves under a bus as a result of white guilt??

Who has had to retire to a warm bath with a razor??? You knew exactly why you posted this. Please do not describe it as concern. Will the Guilt ridden whites please stand up!

"I have had enough of all the distrust and envy automatically directed at white people because they were born with pale skin. I have had enough of being told that I should feel bad and guilty about what others with the same colour skin as me did to other people in the past. I have had enough of being told I am not allowed to have an opinion on a subject because "my ancestors" did all these bad things to other people."


Distrust happens when for a variety of reasons but hell I have seen white distrust of me a big black man. I don't even bat an eyelid. Stupid people do stupid stuff. I go on to have a good day. Perhaps some delicate people should be institutionalise. White people have more to fear from other white people, as the statistics prove crime is more prevalent within races than across races.


The idea of reparations died in the real black community and the death was filed as a stillbirth. Perhaps only a hand full of Sharptonites troll out that dead dog. But yet many neocons keep running that one out. Meanwhile the US economy still mdoes the boom bust shuffle and the body bags scome home to all races over an assinine war maintained by all your good senators who seem to have no kids eligible to go to war.



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posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by Wolfenz

Originally posted by jeddun




What IS true however is the American blacks shame of slavery...the anger they feel is mos def related to the shame of being enslaved by what they 'feel' is a weaker race (whites)...meanwhile their own people handed them over to the white traders willingly. So, horrible business..but not entirely the white mans burden.



true by white traders Spanish Mostly and English ,French, and a few Israelite's



[edit on 6-4-2010 by Wolfenz]
What research I have done(reading the contemporary writings of European explorers, hunters, missionaries, and doctors) European slave traders were predominately Portugese. Capture of the slaves was done by men of one tribe raiding another, then selling the captives to the european traders on the coast or near a navigable river.
The writings also mention how a number of tribes viewed other tribes as commodities, to be kept as slaves, traded or in some cases eaten as food.



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by jeddun
I personally feel zero guilt in regard to black slavery....i can't think of one damn Italian that owned a slave...so who cares...in fact slavery goes on to this very day IN AFRICA..these people don't care about their own people..so whatever.

What IS true however is the American blacks shame of slavery...the anger they feel is mos def related to the shame of being enslaved by what they 'feel' is a weaker race (whites)...meanwhile their own people handed them over to the white traders willingly. So, horrible business..but not entirely the white mans burden.


I beg to disagree. It was the catholic church that actually used the notion of the soul to justify black slavery or native indian slavery. It was Batholomew de las Casas that wrote about this. Anyone can google this if they want the truth but then again neocons are not interested in a true situation when it comes to race.


The real problem then became an issue of white supremacy. Slavery occured in the whole of Africa and may still do in a slightly different form but again the control mechanism does not include white supremacy which is the real problem. White supremacy means that the most ignorant, inept ileducated white person is waaay better that a black person with better qualities because they are white.



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 09:01 AM
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I'm sorry, I disagree. Because of the widespread cultural perception that white people are the oppressive aggressors and all minorities are victimized by them, it is racially charged. It's unfortunate. But it's true. Social perception (regardless of wrong or right) is the defining framework in terms of whether or not an article or comment would be considered 'racially charged'.

I agree that Obama referring to a 'typical' anything in reference to race is wrong, and a I feel a racially charged comment at well.

I could be wrong, but I get the impression you just scrolled through most of what I wrote and and saw a line at the end and responded to that alone. If you didn't, I apologize for the assumption. If you did, I would be grateful if you would read it, and at least that way I would have a better idea of why/where we seem to be misunderstanding each other. I think we are actually on the same page. (More or less.)



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 09:24 AM
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The Catholic Church also used the notion of the eternal soul, and the consequences of sin to try and enslave everyone, not just blacks and native Americans. They used to burn a lot of people for the crime of witchcraft, because they did things like practice medical techniques that they had developed over the millennium.

White have no more notion of superiority than any other race, so I am not sure what you are getting at here. Yeah, the people who harbor these superiority complexes are indeed the problem, otherwise known as arrogance, because you can't trust someone who thinks they are better than you.

Arrogance is one of the worse vices, because it allows the worse kind of mistreatment. Arrogance is at the root of all racism. This is what creates a sense of entitlement, that goes beyond all reason. We were wronged, so you owe us.

The reality is this.

We owe you nothing but the respect you earn, just like everyone else.



posted on Apr, 6 2010 @ 09:53 AM
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i honestly don't think it's the black people's fault, when it gets right down to the nitty gritty. i think something much more insidious is behind all this and it has nothing to do with humans. i choose not to ignore 6000 years of history, particularly ancient history.

in other words, i'm not convinced the rothschilds are behind it either. could be, but i don't have enough data on them to make a determination and on top of that, i don't believe the level of judgment required to reach such a conclusion is at my disposal. would need to be near omniscient, to be 100 percent sure. in addition, to come even remotely close to proving it, would lead off into my other theories which are in areas of great controversy, as regards the history of humanity on the planet.



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