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Alert! Texas Law Enforcement Tells Farmers to Arm Themselves Near Border

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posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 04:20 AM
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I reckon some of those iraq based boys need to come protect their turf ...

The Americans have the largest military in the world, how on earth can border patrol be a problem? A single apache helicopter could look after hundreds of square miles. And a truck full of gunrunners is no match for an apache .... or am i missing something here???




posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 04:23 AM
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I`ve come to the conclusion that one of the following must be true: either the cartels are bribing US politicians to keep the war on drugs going (It`s already been shown that the budgets of the cartels GREATLY EXCEEDS that of the budget available for fighting the "war on drugs"), OR (this may be more likely, or perhaps a combination of the two) the wizards we have running our government hired some mathemetician who devised some equation to figure out whether they would make more money by regulating and taxing drugs, and from the jobs that would be created as a result, or would they profit more if they kept the same system, with all these innocent peaceful potsmokers and other drug users in prison and all the correctional officers, dea agents and police officers who stay busy fighting the "war on drugs", and the people who commit violent crimes because they work for a drug dealer or a cartel, and they must have figured out that, with the current system and all the anguish and grief it causes, they could make more profits. I know it`s pretty sick huh? The body count means nothing unless it effects their little equation and their profits. They don`t mind the fact that prisons are the only places that can`t hire enough even in this economy. Pretty soon the whole planet`s population will consist of two groups: prisoners(or more accurately, slave-workers) and those who keep guard over them. Mark my words... so you can stop them from taking place! A war on drugs is a civil war, a war waged against our citizens and families...


 
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posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 04:26 AM
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You guys are worrying over nothing.

Why the hell would the cartel gangs make trouble in the US?

They are up to their necks with the Mexican military as it is now, why would they cross the boarder and mess with the farmers in the first place?

And Playing favorites with the sinaloa cartel is actually the smartest road to take. The only thing that will bring stability is one of the cartels winning the trade rout so why not back the biggest cartel?

It's just the smart non politically correct thing to do. It's called governing with intelligence. you back one group up by turning a blind eye with them and you let the rest kill each other. Sounds like a smart plane to me must be the PRI.

The Pan are the idiots who are trying to eliminate the cartels, they caused the destabilization in the first place....what a bunch of Nooooooobs!



posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 04:28 AM
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I highly doubt the cartels are bribing politicians but the US government is definitely turning a blind eye. Why? The Mexican government is extremely corrupt......I believe they are bribing US politicians. So yeah indirectly the cartels are bribing US politcians. But it comes from the Mexican government first. This is absolutely madness that we are not securing our borders and putting an end to this. Prison gangs have taken over and infested the US prison system. Mexican gangbangers have infiltrated just about every rural town in America these days. It's sad what's happening to our country. Politicians are too out of touch living in their rich enclaves, gated communities.



posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 04:31 AM
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The cartels are not bribing US politicians....

America just needs the economic stimulus drugs provide. Your governors know that if you stop the drugs people will loose jobs.

Only communist countries and radical Islam stops drugs. A capitalist country if not careful inevitably become dependant on them. That why pharma corporations receive such special treatment they are slowly trying to phase out illegal drugs with pharma drugs to end the violence and not be dependant on cartels.

America is not there yet so you wont be seeing any military deterrent at the boarder for a while.



posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 04:35 AM
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No one is bribing US politicians.

Yes Mexico is corrupt obviously but you guy say it as if America was not 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times more corrupt than Mexico is.

If drugs stop coming into the US....you starve!

That's why you wont see guards on the boarder. Also the cartels are not going to go looking for trouble with the US, it's the last thing they need right now.



posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 05:30 AM
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The ptb are not going to legalize drugs, for a war going on. they make to much money from it, and it keeps the money markets going.

Amazing how the american government does not want to protect americans though.



posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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Umm, kind folks...The war on drugs is related, ok, but just imagine for a minute you are working on your little farm there, and a law enforcement officer comes up to you and says, "Sir, we're here to advise you that you really should arm yourself. We just don't know if these thugs are going to cross over the border and kill you."

"But Mr. Officer, isn't that what I pay your salary for, is to protect us from that?"

"No Sir, there is nothing under the law that obligates us to protect you, Sir. We'll be here to clean your guts up off the carpet though, you can take comfort in that."

"Well then what about the military, or the National Guard, or SOMEBODY, Mr. Officer, why aren't they here to stop the thugs from killing me?"

"Because they have not been authorized to be, Sir."

"Oh, I see, so they are authorized to be over in foreign countries fighting imaginary terrorists, while we are being invaded and killed here at home?"

"That is correct, Sir. So be advised to arm yourself."

"With what, Mr. Officer? A rifle? Against machine guns?"

"I don't know Sir, that is your problem. I was just told to tell you arm yourself. I just work here."

"Well, if I have to arm myself, because my own country can't protect me, then I am taking that out of my tax money, because I cannot afford to buy guns."

"I wouldn't advise that Sir. You may go to jail. Have a nice day, Sir."

"But, but...."



posted on Apr, 5 2010 @ 05:49 AM
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This is absolutely true, and I not only understand your frustration but also feel it.

In the past the PRI was frowned upon for escorting and keeping a buffer zone between the normal Mexican population and the Cartel trade routs.

But in reality this was the safest and smartest thing to do for the safety of the Mexican people. You protect the people by keeping close tabs on the cartels by working with them behind the scene and keeping them on a short leash. Every one was happy.

If the American Government had any sense it would do the same. It looks bad, it smells bad but it's as sure as hell better then telling the normal hard working people of America that they are on their own.

Every one seams to Hate Mexico's corruption even tho it has proven though out the years to be the safe way to do things. Every one blames Mexico for doing what it can, and no one can stop drugs.

The attempt to stop drugs is not only dangerous and stupid but it also just creates a cluster freak that leaves hard working farmers footing the bill.

[edit on 5-4-2010 by Izarith]



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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I really don't know what to think anymore. I used to think it wasn't that bad in Mexico, but lately I have started to change my mind. My uncle lives in a border town on the Mexico side. I won't say where for security purposes. He is a 'Transito" (cop) and has been for as long as I can remember... 20 years maybe.

He told me recently that he stopped a guy for a traffic violation. As he got to the car and asked the guy if he knew why he had stopped him the guy in the car said. Shut up and come with me. He took him to the trunk of a car and opened a cooler that had the body of a police officer in it. He told him this is what happens to you guys when you don't cooperate.

I can only imagine what someone would feel after being shown and told this. My uncle has family and so he just told the guy to go. Can you imagine a cop like my uncle being so scared to even enforce traffic laws?

The situation is horrible and I can't help but think that there is a fairly simple solution to this problem, a quick solution. If this goes on pretty soon the people are gonna fight back and "there will be blood." Unfortunately.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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I kind of like the idea of an armed public. People SHOULD have the mindset that they can protect themselves and their property from people who would do them harm.

Yes, it would be nice if the government could protect us 100% of the time, but they can't. There are WAY too many of us. We should be empowered to protect ourselves.

(I thought that's what Libertarians believed?) Maybe I'm wrong.

I also agree that the War of Drugs should be tossed. That would help a lot.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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Does this have anything to do with what Signals was talking about the choppers?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

ETA: Would Mexican military choppers actually cross into US airspace in pursuit of Cartel members? Can they legally do so? Do TPTB know what is going on for real and this is their cover story?

[edit on 7-4-2010 by Cole DeSteele]



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I kind of like the idea of an armed public. People SHOULD have the mindset that they can protect themselves and their property from people who would do them harm.


Yeah but BH, don't you see the problem here? They are forcing not only the public to arm themselves at their own expense, but arm themselves with pea shooters essentially to go up against machine guns! While our fricken troops fight some stupid ass war against fake terrorism overseas!


It's fricken INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
They are forcing not only the public to arm themselves at their own expense, but arm themselves with pea shooters essentially to go up against machine guns!


They are not "forcing" the public to arm themselves, they are ADVISING them to do so. I consider it really good advice. They are also not saying what kind of arms.

This was from over this past weekend. Here's an update.

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There were numerous shootings reported in cities from Nuevo Laredo to Tampico. The bloodiest was in Reynosa.

In the last two days, suspected cartel members stormed into a Reynosa prison. Ten trucks, armed with men, shot at prison staff. Three people were killed.

Friday morning, five people were killed in a gunbattle between the Mexican military and suspected cartel members.




While our fricken troops fight some stupid ass war against fake terrorism overseas!



With this, I agree 100%.



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 03:33 PM
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well we are ready for the Mexican Marines to storm ashore in Florida any minute... excellent we get some target practice... sort of rusty these days, I cant hit a fly more further than 50 yards these days... eye sight a little blurry - but my finger still works... sign me up...



posted on Apr, 7 2010 @ 04:07 PM
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What the hell..i'll try to throw mt 2 cents in and tell you why i think the borders should be closed tightly....I have recently moved to rural Mississippi from S.W.houston Tx.my family and i occupied an apartment complex in the area and when we first moved there it was a low rent area about 75%blacks 15%whites and the rest are hispanics this was 2008 for no reason or just not paying attention i realized that mid 2008 there were more hispanic families moving there i have no problem with anyone trying to get the american dream but the ratio of blacks to hispanics tipped in a major way the white families moved out all together.after a few months i began to see a rise in(hindu's)from india then a large influx of africans from different locations in africa.but what made me take notice is that on the bus one day i over heard a hindu family speaking fluent spanish.I gathered up a enough courage to ask a hispanic friend at work without sounding like a racist what the deal was.he told me with ease that coyotes(human smugglers)smuggle them in to the U.S. like they do some mexicans,he said its easier to enter from mexico city than an american port.he also said its all different races from arabs to asians he said its the new money scheme for the coyotes..so god knows who or what they are bringing into america anything this is why i think this needs to be taken care of



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 03:55 AM
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Well it is bad in Mexico, it's always been bad in Mexico tho. It's the same thing in the US.

There are parts in Chicago where the same stuff happens, you have entire neighborhoods where the police don't even go to.

In the past things were bad in Mexico but much simpler, if someone was driving a crown Victoria you left them alone and that was that. Everyone knew who the drug guys were and you just did not mess with them because they stayed out of your business if you stayed out of theirs. Drugs got to where people were willing to pay for them and every week there were a huge 100,000 dollar Quinselleras. Life was simple.

Now you have a bunch of hot heads who don't have the slightest clue on how to play nice on either side of things so you end up with poor cops pressured by their government to not take bribes and petty criminals who think they are drug lords cutting the cops heads off if they don't.

The only solution to this is a full out Gatling gun mowing of people down by the Mexican Government (which the PRI has done in the past) or letting the chips fall where they may and hoping one of the cartels wins the turf.

Those are the only options we have while Americans not only get all the drugs they so generously pay for but they also get to make light of Killing Mexican Military and or people meanwhile all the guns and ammo these crap heads that tout themselves as drug lords kill cops, Military and innocent people with are from the USA.

It sure feels like an uphill battle some times.



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 04:11 AM
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Yeah but BH, don't you see the problem here? They are forcing not only the public to arm themselves at their own expense, but arm themselves with pea shooters essentially to go up against machine guns! While our fricken troops fight some stupid ass war against fake terrorism overseas!


It's fricken INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You think that's INSANE?...

You can't have the Taliban burning and destroying all the poppy fields in Afghanistan, The world's largest exporter of heroin to Europe now can you?

But let me tell you what INSANE is, the day Mexico finds a way to stop drugs from going into the US is the day you will see your American troops come home and invade Mexico.


Now that's INSANE....But true.



posted on Apr, 8 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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Couldn't have put it better myself.



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