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reply posted on 4-6-2004 @ 12:41 PM by timmer69
Originally posted by ScoFe
Originally posted by timmer69
The whole money supply issue and naval movements is probably related to a potential upcoming conflict with China. China owns over 1/2 of the US Treasury bonds in existance. China can dump our economy in an instant by cashing in.


Whoa. Has anybody else ever heard of this? Is that really true?


This has been well publicized, at least to those of us who follow the news in Asia closely. Here's a quote from a securities analyst:

China's senior leadership might still call themselves "communists", but in reality the country is run like a holding company along strict reporting lines with one clear objective, namely 7-8 percent annual growth. The currency peg between the yuan and the US dollar is facilitating this growth objective while at the same time it results in lower interest rates in the United States. This is because, in order to keep the yuan at the 8.3 percent level, China needs to buy up surplus dollars and reinvest them abroad, foremost in US Treasury bonds. The peg is mutually beneficial to both China's growth target and US Federal Reserve Board chairman Alan Greenspan's need to keep long-term interest rates and inflation low in the US.

In June [2003] China had foreign currency reserves of $365bn. In order to keep the renminbi stable at about 8.28 to the dollar, China's central bank has to keep buying up surplus dollars and reinvesting them abroad. In practice this means buying US Treasury bonds. China's holdings of US Treasury bonds rose to a record $122.5bn last month, far more than any other country apart from Japan.


China has over 60% of their foreign currency reserves in US dollars, among the bonds mentioned above and keeping billions of US currency on hand. Between China and Japan they hold nearly half of the entire US debt of $1.35 trillion. The bond purchases are what keeps the interest rates low right now, not our sluggish economy. Eventually China will not be able to prop up the US dollar to keep their rate pegged on the RMB. They will have to go to a more market demand system, or peg to the Euro. This will hurt the US and China economies. Having a large M-3 supply might help us ride out this storm as the Fed is probably thinking.



reply posted on 4-6-2004 @ 02:05 PM by Lysergic
I leave you with a song to think about.

Tool - Lateralus

Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
Red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
Lets me see.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
Drawn beyond the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. watch it bend.

Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.

Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
Red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
Lets me see there is so much more and
Beckons me to look thru to these infinite possibilities.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
Drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. watch it bend.

Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition leaving opportunities behind.
Feed my will to feel this moment urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.


I embrace my desire to
I embrace my desire to
Feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow
To feel inspired to fathom the power, to witness the beauty,
To bathe in the fountain,
To swing on the spiral
To swing on the spiral
To swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human.

With my feet upon the ground I move myeslf between the sounds and open wide to
Suck it in.
I feel it move across my skin.
I?m reaching up and reaching out. I?m reaching for the random or what ever will
Bewilder me.
What ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one?s been.
We?ll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one?s been.
Spiral out. keep going.
Spiral out. keep going.
Spiral out. keep going.
Spiral out. keep going.
Spiral out. keep going.


reply posted on 4-6-2004 @ 02:08 PM by yeshayahu2004
Take this for what it's worth or file it in the round file. But in the not-so-hallowed halls of NSAft,meade there are any number of employees who have within their job classification to read and respond to any website, posting or nebulous chatter. Their job description has a technical title which is unknown to anyone but themselves and their employer; but they have the internal reference name of, 'the monitors'. They constantly review all collected data communications red-flagged by a particular program designed to select communications over the www; a program which is operated by the central computer complex. This has nothing to do with NATSECOM or key words considered to be a NATSEC threat. This has to do with the truth. As I have come to understand it, it is the job of the monitors to collect data, assess the content and if it contains any shred of truth to discredit, misdirect or redirect with disinformation and misinformation.
As we have seen with this particular thread 'the monitors' have successfully discredited and redirected the data. Could it be that if 'the monitors' in this case and the real monitors heretofore mentioned are one in the same, if so, then indeed we all have some dicey days ahead. Isn't it prudent and wise to, rather than just dismissing it as a hoax to just wait and see. We'll all be the wiser to wait and watch since, if it is true, we will only have to wait until the end of June to know for sure. How difficult can it be to post the claim that you were/are the group responsible for any particular thread and claim that you are demonstrating how stupid and gullible people are. Have we heard a word from Dr. Gartrell? Afterall, it is his name and reputation as a scientist on the line here; shouldn't he be one of the first to respond and discredit this himself? Then again, if it was indeed Dr. Grant Gartrell who has posted all of this, letting the cat out of the bag, he has probably already been introduced into the reality of eternal destination by now. TPTB have been in the business of TA and TD for decades now.Text
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